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04-09-2008, 07:29 AM   #1
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Help with new k20 kit

Hi All:

I have 3k to spend on a new kit. I do general all around shooting, two young kids, sports etc. We spend a lot of time around the ocean sailing so weather sealing is nice. I also Mountain Bike and like to bring photo gear along.

I am weighing the following options all with K20D:

1. 16-50 2.8 and 50-135 2.8
2. 21mm - general all around shooting
70mm - portrait, short range sports
DA*200mm - sports
3. Budget: Pentax 18-250 plus FA 50 1.4 for low light.

I do not know which way to go. Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Jerry

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Welcome Jerry,
Why not take it a little time in deciding what you want. You will want the 18-250 for all around travel so get that and also pick up a cheap A 50mm f1.7 to see how you feel about primes versus zooms. Shoot for 30 days and then decide what you want to do. I would seriously rethink the 16-50 until you are sure you want to put up with the headaches it might give you. You might find you like the idea of using old glass.

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04-09-2008, 08:49 AM   #3
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well, you can't do all of those for $3K. And only the 16-50 and 50-135 are weather sealed.

Depends if you like zooms or primes. I'm finding the new 35ltd macro to be a great general shooting lens that can also do close focus. Also the 16-45 will be pretty on-par with the 16-50 (and in many cases, better...qc issues on the 16-50).
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My thought would be to get the 18-250 (or one of the Tamron or Sigma's that go to 300). That will allow you to get almost every picture without fumbling for different lenses. You'll give up a little bit of image quality, but it will still be plenty good for memories and printing. Plus, it's a cheaper lenses. If one got wet and ruined, you wouldn't be out a fortune.

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I'd go with the 18-55II, 70mm, 50-135, K20D. and maybe that $130 tamron 70-300mm. covers just about everything and should be priced about right.
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Does your 3K include the price of the K20D ???
If not then I would definitely go with
50-135mm 2.8
31mm 1.8
18-250mm
Then I think there is enough left over for the 16 - 45 F4

If the price includes the K20D:
16-45 F4 - great IQ & all around lens
50-135 F2.8 - haven't seen any bad results yet but might be a bit short for the sports unless you crop your photos (shouldn't be a problem with the K20D)
and I think you have $500 left over for either the 18-250 for your Mountain Biking & sports in good lighting situations otherwise use the 50-135 for indoor sports.
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Thank you for all the replies. Yes, the 3k includes allocating for the 20d.

Jerry
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QuoteOriginally posted by Jerry O Quote
Hi All:

I have 3k to spend on a new kit. I do general all around shooting, two young kids, sports etc. We spend a lot of time around the ocean sailing so weather sealing is nice. I also Mountain Bike and like to bring photo gear along.

I am weighing the following options all with K20D:

1. 16-50 2.8 and 50-135 2.8
2. 21mm - general all around shooting
70mm - portrait, short range sports
DA*200mm - sports
3. Budget: Pentax 18-250 plus FA 50 1.4 for low light.

I do not know which way to go. Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Jerry

Hi Jerry, I'd choose door number 1. You get a fair range of focal lengths (16-135) with no gaps. You'll also get fast, sealed lenses with very good image quality. If later you find some spare change in the couch, I'd add the 18-250 as a travel lens.

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Putting the 18-250 on the K20D is like slapping a muzzle on your guard dog. But for what it was intended for, I guess it will do the job. If it were me, I'd get the DA* zooms and a 1.4x or 1.5x TC for the extra reach on the 50-135 if needed. And if you have some room left over, get the DA*200mm and do the same thing.
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I would wait a bit to see how the new DA17-70/4 performs, if it is any good i would choose this setup:

DA17-70/4

DA70/2.4
or
FA50/1.4

DA50-135/2.8 if you need it fast
or
DA55-300/4-5.8 if you need it long
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The DA* 60-250mm f/4 may be a winner as well, but that is a ways off.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Buddha Jones Quote
Putting the 18-250 on the K20D is like slapping a muzzle on your guard dog. But for what it was intended for, I guess it will do the job. If it were me, I'd get the DA* zooms and a 1.4x or 1.5x TC for the extra reach on the 50-135 if needed. And if you have some room left over, get the DA*200mm and do the same thing.
I'll second Buddha, and add the 21mm if you can. Skip the 18-250mm
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Hi Jerry,
I'm envious!!

I would very definately go straight to the K20D, DA* 16-50 & DA* 50-135. Without a doubt. Perhaps add a tele converter if you need something longer, or throw in a Tamron 70-300.

Why?
...Latest technology.
...Completely weather sealed kit, which given your intended usage is mandatory.
...Top quality lenses, (ok some 16-50's have had issues, but once they are sorted owners appear to be very happy.)
...Fast lenses that will cover most any light situation.

I would shoot with that combo for awhile, get to know it, understand its strengths and weaknesses and then add what ever you think you need to at a later date by which time there may well be some new glass to choose from. The old glass will always be out there....somewhere.

Good luck with it.
Grant
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