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View Poll Results: Would you buy a full frame Pentax DSLR?
Yes; I will move to FF as soon as I can 6046.88%
No; APS-C size, cost and quality suits me best 6853.13%
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04-13-2008, 11:13 AM   #46
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In general, I agree with you about the cost of a body. The difference in performance however throws a monkey wrench in the equation. When I look at the high ISO samples from a Nikon D3 it seems there is at least two stops difference between that and a K20D.

My present collection of old M and A series lenses shouldn't be out resolved by a 12-14 MP FF sensor so the need to buy new glass is not an issue. A higher MP count would probably cause problems. 28mm is as wide as I have and would like to go wider but the cost looks like it would be at least $500 to get something of good quality. A FF body the size of a K20D would not only give me the wide angle I want but also give me an extra two stops on lenses like the A 200/4. For $2,000 I get a new wide angle lens and an additional two stops on all of my lenses if it were priced at $2,000 like the Canon 5D.

I see a FF body as an addition to my present system that improves my range of lenses and low light performance. Your opinion is highly regarded and would be interested in what your thoughts are on this reasoning.

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Not sure my opinion is THAT highly regarded, but thanks anyway.

The high ISO results I see from the D3 are good but have a massive amount of NR smoothing applied, so I would like to see a proper test on DPreview and IR befiore jumping to too many conclusions.

Given the same sensor technology scaled down, the theoretical difference over APSC would be a stop at higher ISO (compared to D300 seems about right). At lower ISO, FF cameras are generally slightly noisier.

For what most people use high ISO shots for (ie NOT publishing or landscape) 6MP would be plenty. Theoretically you could get the same noise performance from a 6MP APS sensor and save a bunch of cash.

I also think it more likely Pentax will aim for a higher resolution camera before a sports camera. Nikon was aiming at the 1D with the D3, not the 1DS. Not a market that Pentax or Sony are likely to want to bid for just yet. So you wont get much less noise, but you may get 20-30 MP.

But they will not market a camera with no lenses. I reliably informed that many older FA lenses and many before that are not suitable for digital sensors and this would show up most on FF. I hate to say it but I am not sure all your old lenses are going to shine on an FF sensor. There are certainly quite a few issues with some older Nikon and Canon lenses that were not particularly noticeable on the 20D but showed up on the 5D.

I am sure that something FF will turn up eventually - in about 2-3 years but how many lenses will come with it is anyones guess.

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I don't know if anyone has already posted this link on here but i will add it anyways:

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Wether you voted yes or no, seams like a FF sensor is on the way!!
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Well I can afford a UWA all the way through a really good telephoto on aps-c. To cover the same range of FOV would be alot more on a FF. Hence I'd rather see more aps-c bodies with improved AF and high iso performance.
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This poll is missing the middle gound that fits most users. Most people would want a FF Pentax DSLR, but will wait for the cost to come down to earth. Therefore I think that the poll results are not valid. It really isn't just a simple yes or no question.

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In all likelihood the price is going to stay much more for FF then APS-C. Either someone will make more money and the differents in cost will not be as important or they will just pony up the money for the incremental improvement over APS-C. Just like MF is always going to be much much more then APC-S. So it is just a yes/no thing.

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Possibly.

If my photography moves from "enthusiastic hobbiest" status to the business model I think it can, it will be predominately based around landscapes. So the wide capability looms large.

So a Pentax FF then becomes very attractive, particularly if it retains the K mount.

The arguement for the Canon 5d doesn't hold up because its $3500 plus here in Australia and the lenses can double that without trying...and I do not want to go down the two systems path.

Aint progress grand!! Bring it on and the consumers will decide.
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I will. Be nice to get back to the focal lengths I'm used to, from film.
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This poll is missing the middle gound that fits most users. Most people would want a FF Pentax DSLR, but will wait for the cost to come down to earth. Therefore I think that the poll results are not valid. It really isn't just a simple yes or no question.
Yep. I did not vote either. If the FF camera had all the features I want, then fine, I'd think about it - but not if I have to re-buy all my lenses...

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