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02-23-2014, 07:37 PM   #46
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Loving my K-5iis. First time taking her out to a show...broke her in really good. 1700 pictures for 4 bands, avg. 425 each band in total but I ended up only keeping what I thought was an epic shot. And I had far too many super sharp great pics. YES I know that is an obscene amount of pictures but I was playing around a ton. And my cuts were really hard on myself and all in all I kept only superior shots, imo. But so many were good. Love this.

Camera NEVER had to hunt for AF at all. Really was just quick and easy. I am starting to notice/feel my ceiling of 55 mm though. I want to get in just a wee bit closer, I can crop sure but starting to think a 70ish or 80 ish prime would be worthwhile.

I am in deep love with my K-5iis. Deeeeeeep.

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My standard music setup where I can move around is a Tamron 28-75/2.8 and Rokinon 8/3.5 FE
How do you find the 3.5 to handle low light? I was always told 2.8 is the slowest you can go for concert work. I am in dark, dark locations and really worry about the 3.5 aspect. But with my shiny new K-5iis I was told I can EV compensate and get back up there.....

As much as I want the 10mm sigma at 2.8, its well over 600, far too much for my blood for a FE. the 10-17 I cant see dropping 450 on. I rented it once and felt it was oK. nothing special.

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QuoteOriginally posted by rzarector Quote
How do you find the 3.5 to handle low light? I was always told 2.8 is the slowest you can go for concert work. I am in dark, dark locations and really worry about the 3.5 aspect. But with my shiny new K-5iis I was told I can EV compensate and get back up there.....

As much as I want the 10mm sigma at 2.8, its well over 600, far too much for my blood for a FE. the 10-17 I cant see dropping 450 on. I rented it once and felt it was oK. nothing special.

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It's seems fine. I usually only take a few shots per show with it and just adjust ISO to compensate and/or bring up the brightness in post if it comes out too dark but most of the time there's enough light for f/3.5 at the small theaters and bars where I shoot.













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QuoteOriginally posted by rzarector Quote
How do you find the 3.5 to handle low light? I was always told 2.8 is the slowest you can go for concert work. I am in dark, dark locations and really worry about the 3.5 aspect. But with my shiny new K-5iis I was told I can EV compensate and get back up there.....
Your guitar player above was shot at 1/125, f/3.2, ISO1600. I doubt f/3.5 will make much difference from that perspective. Also, you can bring down the shutter speed at wider angles.

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My experience with concerts and the K5 is that passed ISO1600 you're going to need a really good denoiser.

The 50-135 is not a good choice, I know that by experience as well. The Pentax AF system (at least in the K10D and K5 I own) is an underperformer to begin with and struggles even in best lighting conditions. If you add low light and a SDM motor on top of that, you'll miss half your shots and you'll curse a lot.

I've gotten AMAZING shots with my 12-24 even at f4.0, so I have no doubt at all a fisheye would produce equally amazing results even at f3.5

I have no experience with the 70-200 so cannot advise you there.
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The 50-135 is not a good choice, .
you totally just bummed me out.
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Oups, sorry man!

Maybe I'm just a terrible photog and you'll have more success with it.

If you use it for concerts I suggest you shoot A LOT.
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I disagree with the 50-135mm. I have gotten some fabulous shots with it. It's my go to lens for the most part. I do agree about the DA 12-24mm though. That is almost a forgotten lens for concerts.

Both shot on the digital KX
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I disagree with the 50-135mm. I have gotten some fabulous shots with it. It's my go to lens for the most part. I do agree about the DA 12-24mm though. That is almost a forgotten lens for concerts.

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Hey John any more exmples of concerts and your 50-135, Id love to see more!
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QuoteOriginally posted by john5100 Quote
I disagree with the 50-135mm. I have gotten some fabulous shots with it. It's my go to lens for the most part. I do agree about the DA 12-24mm though. That is almost a forgotten lens for concerts.

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That's indeed a good shot, John. I'm not saying it cannot do the work. You will just get a lot of fails.

What's your keeper rate for concert shooting with your 50-135?
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QuoteOriginally posted by FrancisK7 Quote
That's indeed a good shot, John. I'm not saying it cannot do the work. You will just get a lot of fails.

What's your keeper rate for concert shooting with your 50-135?
My keeper rate with that lens is very high. It's never let me down...knock wood!

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KX with DA* 50-135mm


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KX with DA* 50-135mm


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K200D with DA* 50-135mm


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K200D DA 12-24mm

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That's indeed a good shot, John. I'm not saying it cannot do the work. You will just get a lot of fails.

What's your keeper rate for concert shooting with your 50-135?
FrancisK7, you and I must have gotten bad copies. I have issues with my 50-135, too. I bought a 60-250 f4.0 last year but was worried about the higher ISO I would need to make up for the aperture loss. I'm still in the middle of switching from Smugmug to Zenfolio and currently am also having an external hard drive that is trying to die on me otherwise I'd post comparison shots here. I do have some "concert" shots (and other shots) with the 60-250 on Instagram, they are tagged Pentax60250 if you want to scroll through. Instagram

Since some of you have suggested rzarector look to purchase a lens on the long end because of what he already has, what is your opinion of the Tamron 70-200 f2.8 macro vs. Sigma 70-200 f2.8. I have had other Tamron and Sigma lenses and typically like the Sigma better. Is it worth the extra price? Is the Tamron "macro" enough?

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Of course, after I post, I remember that I have these: http://deniseajohnson.zenfolio.com/p239809745/h2007c62c#h2007c62c
These were with the Sigma contemorary 17-70mm f2.8-4.0 and Pentax 60-250mm f4.0 on my Pentax K5-iis. I shot JPG, hand-held them, and only tweaked them in LR5. These were freebies for a friend. I don't really claim to be a professional anyway.

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The DA*50-135 freakin' rocks for concerts. I have essentially benched my Sigma 70-200/2.8 since I bought it.

Of course, it can't focus on moving subjects:


Howlin' Pele


Cosmic Psychos


Group Love


The Drones


The Naked and Famous 2


The Doctor


Julia Stone


Jungle Giants 1


Passion Pit 1


Karnivool 2


Karnivool 1
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Great shots Sandy and John.
Clearly the 50-135 is a total dud at concerts. Into the bin with it.
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Thank you rawr

I understand that the Tamron 70-200mm is really good and it a great price. You can either get your copy of the DA* 50-135mm fixed or get the Tamron.

Paula Cole

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ISO 4000 pushed +1/2

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