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04-18-2008, 02:24 PM   #1
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K10D or K200D

I've narrowed the multitude of brands and models down to Pentax and brand N. If I went with brand N I'd start at the bottom with the D40 kit for $490 with 18-55 from Adorama. It mainly has very low entry price going for it.

Pentax is where I'm leaning because of much better dust resistance. In Pentax I could get a K10D with 18-55 from Abe's for $750 or a K200D with 18-55 from Abe's for $720. It appears the K10D is slightly faster in burst mode and without the 4 shot limit of the K200. The 200 has a slightly larger LCD but not by much. The AA batteries of the 200 could be an advantage over having to get to an outlet to recharge. The pentaprism on the 10 should be a significant advantage over the 200's pentamirror.

I look forward to comments on the 10 vs 200 choice as well as any other input is shared.

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33 views and no opinion on K10D vs K200D?
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You should maybe try doing a search on the forums there are probably quite a few threads covering this. I'm afraid I can't give an opinion on the K200d. I use a K10d and I also bought the battery grip. For one thing the camera feels a lot better with the grip and as for the batteries, the two of them together hold a lot of juice. Set the camera to use grip battery first and you are never going to miss a shot unless you have been out in the boondocks for a week (it's easier to remove the battery from the grip than to remove the grip to get camera battery). You could miss shots while changing the aa batteries and there is also the environmental impact. Hope this helps. Welcome to the forums.
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I am working my way back reading the forums and finding a lot of good and useful information. Like most, I'm looking for as much information as quickly as possible. Thanks for replying to me.

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QuoteOriginally posted by LDB Quote
I've narrowed the multitude of brands and models down to Pentax and brand N. If I went with brand N I'd start at the bottom with the D40 kit for $490 with 18-55 from Adorama. It mainly has very low entry price going for it.

Pentax is where I'm leaning because of much better dust resistance. In Pentax I could get a K10D with 18-55 from Abe's for $750 or a K200D with 18-55 from Abe's for $720. It appears the K10D is slightly faster in burst mode and without the 4 shot limit of the K200. The 200 has a slightly larger LCD but not by much. The AA batteries of the 200 could be an advantage over having to get to an outlet to recharge. The pentaprism on the 10 should be a significant advantage over the 200's pentamirror.

I look forward to comments on the 10 vs 200 choice as well as any other input is shared.
I think you are looking at the battery issue backwards. the rechargable battery in the K10 lasts a long time, and I got a spare or two, and see that as a good thing. You usually run them down by plugging the camera into
your computer and forgetting to unplug it after downloading---and it won't shut off when plugged in so by the next day the battery is dead.

My previous digital was an I*istD that took a high priced version of 4 penlite batteries that cost about $15 bucks at RiteAide. (the CR-V3) I'll bet I cost myself a $100 bucks in dead batteries before I switched to the K10.
I keep a loop of 3 batteries for the K10--- 1 in the camera, a charged one in the camera bag, and one on the charger (which has an auto shut off to avoid over charging).

If I'm going on a big shoot, I'll rotate the batteries, or now and then just 'beause', but I have never needed to change batteries on a shoot.
You will be changing memory cards before you change batteries.

What you are making a choice between is last year's high end model (the K10) and this year's low end model (the K200).

Though the difference is marginal--- I'd go for the last year's high end.... but the choice isn't much different from buying a car----do you buy last year's car model at a deep discount with some extra features, or this year's stripped down one.
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There's a lot of discussion on this - people here are probably tired of debating it - but my personal choice would probably be the K10D. The grip gives you (or has given me) an extra stop of shake reduction on handheld shots. I have the K20D, which has the K10D chassis, and I really love it's feel & functional ergonometrics.

I think the Nikon D80 is a good camera, and the D200 & D300 are great cameras - but under no circumstances should you consider the D40/D40x over any Pentax. I know it's 'affordable', but it simply does not compare to the K100D, much less the K10D or K200D. It just doesn't, for too many reasons than I have time to list here.

Here would be the best advice I can give - spend a little more than you think you want to right now and get either the Nikon D300 or the Pentax K20D.

And I strongly suggest the K20D. If you have any experience judging IQ, and know what you usually can expect with ISO 800, 1600 (and 3200!) on any given camera - these are worth 10,000 more words--->https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/25315-lenses-r...atch-k20d.html




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You can buy another battery for the K10D on ebay, like I did, for a few bucks.
They last a long time before needing a recharge.
The entry-level D40 may not be as much camera as you want/expect.
I've not seen a K200D yet so I can't help there.
My 2 cents.
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I appreciate the feedback and am finding more discussions of this as I make my way farther back through existing threads. So far it seems like a pretty even split between the K10 and K200. I'm still undecided since there isn't a clear winner but I'm enjoying the learning.

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Don't take offense at this but, "Stop procrastinating and get the K10D before it's too late". You won't regret it.
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I bought 2 NP-400s as spare batteries for my K10D, since then I never have to worry about battery for the K10D as with my Canon S3 IS which uses AAs.

I don't know about the K200D but I am so happy with my K10D despite some complaints about its AF and WB which I don't find I have isssue with.
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I've not seen the K200D yet, but thought it was sized more or less like the K100D, while the K10D is a larger body.

So before you order, you may want to handle both cameras to see if the difference in size matters to you.

Don't wait too long. I bet the K10D's will run out soon.
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The K200D body is actually bigger than the K100DSuper, and smaller than the K10 & 20D. Guessing the weather seals take up more room. The cameras height is about half way between the other two.
Starting out with the DS, I lusted for the Lith technology. Finally found Sanyo Eneloops and made peace with the rechargeable AA cell.
I like the K10D (have one) better than the K200D. This would change for different photographers according to:

1. Battery preference. Lith still runs longer (excepting disposable lith AA Energizers).
2. Size. K200D is smaller by a fair amount. Also lighter. Add the way too cool new AA batt grip and the size between the two griped cameras is fair amount.
3. Jpeg or raw shooter. If jpeg the K200D seems to have the better quality. Raw its even.
4. Action photography. K10D will shoot until end of card at 3fps. K200D does a very short burst (don't remember but around 4-7). Thats in jpeg.

Always liked Nikon. Like Pentax they were for compatibility "the time tested F mount". Baloney now. The 40s are the worst two dslrs on the market. Don't meter with any older lenses and don't AF with many current Nikon lenses! They also took very important features off the cameras to make them EASY. Person in photo class has a 40. Every time we get to a certain feature (that any slr should have) she cringes because she knows its missing. Every other brand in class has the features - every time. No cable release, no mirror lockup (except to clean sensor), etc. Too many to remember. Would rather have a Drebble. Thats hard for me to say. A K100D can be bought for the Nikon price and it kills it.
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Thanks to all who have responded so far. I'm about 99% decided on Pentax and about 98% of that on the K10D as I've found one with kit lens and about 1000 shots fired at a good price.
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QuoteOriginally posted by LDB Quote
I've narrowed the multitude of brands and models down to Pentax and brand N. If I went with brand N I'd start at the bottom with the D40 kit for $490 with 18-55 from Adorama. It mainly has very low entry price going for it.

Pentax is where I'm leaning because of much better dust resistance. In Pentax I could get a K10D with 18-55 from Abe's for $750 or a K200D with 18-55 from Abe's for $720. It appears the K10D is slightly faster in burst mode and without the 4 shot limit of the K200. The 200 has a slightly larger LCD but not by much. The AA batteries of the 200 could be an advantage over having to get to an outlet to recharge. The pentaprism on the 10 should be a significant advantage over the 200's pentamirror.

I look forward to comments on the 10 vs 200 choice as well as any other input is shared.
The K10D has more controls outside the menus. It has the same sensor as the K200D, which might have a slightly improved firmware over the k10D. In my book, the K10D is the one. I seldom go into the menus other than to set things like PEF only exposure, and to memorize a setting group with the USER mode. With the K200D I would need to use the menus quite a bit more than with the K10D, and that is slower. I am training my fingers and thumb to find what I want without looking, slowly.
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K10D! Shoot in Raw if you have problems with the current FIRMWARE.. heheh..
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