K110?

**tmacdon** · 04-19-2008, 05:44 AM

Is there any reason NOT to purchase a K110, with the 2 “Kit” (28-50; 50-200) lenses for a smart, but entry level college-grad-to-be? The kit is new, at a reputable dealer/local store, and costs $600.

séamuis · 04-19-2008, 06:04 AM

is the 28-50 a sigma? because the standard pentax kit is 18-55 DA and the 50-200 is it the pentax DA? I purchased the K110D w/ 18-55mm new about a year and a half ago for just under $400 and you can get the pentax DA 50-200mm brand new for $150-200 depending where you buy it so I think the price is a bit high especially if its a sigma lens.

**tmacdon** · 04-19-2008, 06:30 AM

both are the Pentax lenses.

I chedked several current prices, and the package plus leneses were at least $750, new
KEH has the entire set USED for $600. So was not looking so much at price, but at quality.

Are you happy with your K110?
WhatI hear is "yes, entry level, but a very good way to enter!"

**krs** · 04-19-2008, 06:52 AM

In my opinion, you have 2 or 3 things to consider:

1. Antishake
The K110D does not have antishake, unlike the K100D, K10D, K200D, and K20D. You just need to consider how important this feature is to you (it is pretty important to me!).
2. Value
Given the K100D has been out for a bit, are you really getting a good buy. With the two lenses and the homework you've done, maybe you are!

I have the K100D (same as the K110D but with antishake) and found it a "very good way to enter!"

MrApollinax · 04-19-2008, 07:00 AM

Just to throw in my opinion as someone who just recently got into the DSLR realm:

I bought a new K100D (with Shake Reduction) with the 18-55 kit lens for $509USD. If you were to buy a new 50-200 (which I have been looking into) it will cost you between $150-200USD. So if you go with that setup you will get the Shake Reduction feature for $50-100USD more than the used K110 kit. You may find down the road you can get the zoom lens for cheaper used.

I am completely happy with my K100Ds purchase. No buyers remorse whatsoever. Especially so when I hear my Nikon and Canon buddies complain to me about the costs of VR/IS lenses

Stratman · 04-19-2008, 07:03 AM

K100D Super < body only > Amazon.com: Pentax K100D Super 6.1MP Digital SLR Camera Shake Reduction (Body Only): Camera & Photo

NEW version of the kit lens
Amazon.com: Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AL II Lens for Pentax and Samsung Digital SLR Cameras: Camera & Photo

About the same $ as what you are looking at, with shake reduction.

séamuis · 04-19-2008, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by tmacdon

Are you happy with your K110?
WhatI hear is "yes, entry level, but a very good way to enter!"

well, yes I am. though to be honest my superA 35mm film SLR gets allot more use than my digital and I'm looking into getting a used k10D but the k110D is a great starter, the k100 with SR is even better obviously but if you've never had a camera with it you wont miss anything. the world of photography got along fine without it all this time. whether its a K110, 100 or 100super doesn't matter because they are all essentially the same camera and it is a great piece of kit without a doubt. the only thing to take into consideration is that the 110 and 100 are officially discontinued if that has any effect on warranty and servicing. (I don't know as mine has never been serviced.)

axl · 04-19-2008, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by tmacdon

Are you happy with your K110?
WhatI hear is "yes, entry level, but a very good way to enter!"

I don't have K110 but K100 which is the same camera just with antishake and therefore few grams heavier... as for build quality - very very good, especialy compared C&N entry level models... picture quality - according to many reviews it's one of the best 6mp DSLR ever built in this segment. Ergonomics - great. AF - good in good light, in darkness it's hunting a bit, speed of AF OK just in continuous mode bit slover and less accurate then competition. Buffer and speed of writing to card are the biggest let-downs, but still in acceptable limits. Alltogether, this is my first DSLR and I have two K100D bodies, I couldn't be happier with entry to DSLR world. It's a great and rewarding camera...

I don't know what's good price for twin kit K110D but if it's good price, you have nothing to loose (only 28mm is bit narrow for DSLR so Sigma 10-20 may come handy soon)...

Peter Zack · 04-19-2008, 08:01 AM

I won't comment on the price but as a K110D owner will suggest you get the camera. It's a very good unit with all the same features other than SR which is in the upper end models. It uses the same senr as the K100D and K100D super.
It has great low light sensitivity compared to many more expensive models. Nice and light with easy cotrols. Added bonus is the batteries are AA so you can get them anywhere when you run out. It's no slouch in terms of picture quality. Have a look at the images presented here with this camera: PENTAX Photo Gallery

So if shake reduction is not a big issue, then get the camera and enjoy it. If someday you decide that some of the features of another model suit you better, this will always be a great backup camera.

jgredline · 04-19-2008, 08:48 AM

I agree with Peter. The K110D rocks. It is also faster to autofocus than the K100D's and will teach you to have good hands. I have never found the shake reduction to be a real plus, but that is me..My K110D has well over 30,000 actuations and going strong...It also has great battery life....

**tmacdon** · 04-19-2008, 12:11 PM

Thanks folks. This is all most helpful. I think I will present an option: the really K110 now and "local" or $100 more and off to the web for a slightly better one.

axl · 04-19-2008, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by jgredline

... It is also faster to autofocus than the K100D's and will teach you to have good hands....

Does it ?!? It's exactly the same camera as K100D just without SR, which doesn't affect AF at all, so the AF speed should really be the same...

jgredline · 04-19-2008, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by axl

Does it ?!? It's exactly the same camera as K100D just without SR, which doesn't affect AF at all, so the AF speed should really be the same...

iF you turn the shake reduction off the K100D it is indeed quicker.

04-19-2008, 05:44 AM	#1
tmacdon Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 143	K110? Is there any reason NOT to purchase a K110, with the 2 “Kit” (28-50; 50-200) lenses for a smart, but entry level college-grad-to-be? The kit is new, at a reputable dealer/local store, and costs $600.

04-19-2008, 07:38 AM	#8
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	Go For It Originally posted by tmacdon Are you happy with your K110? WhatI hear is "yes, entry level, but a very good way to enter!" I don't have K110 but K100 which is the same camera just with antishake and therefore few grams heavier... as for build quality - very very good, especialy compared C&N entry level models... picture quality - according to many reviews it's one of the best 6mp DSLR ever built in this segment. Ergonomics - great. AF - good in good light, in darkness it's hunting a bit, speed of AF OK just in continuous mode bit slover and less accurate then competition. Buffer and speed of writing to card are the biggest let-downs, but still in acceptable limits. Alltogether, this is my first DSLR and I have two K100D bodies, I couldn't be happier with entry to DSLR world. It's a great and rewarding camera... I don't know what's good price for twin kit K110D but if it's good price, you have nothing to loose (only 28mm is bit narrow for DSLR so Sigma 10-20 may come handy soon)...

04-19-2008, 12:50 PM	#12
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	Does it? Originally posted by jgredline ... It is also faster to autofocus than the K100D's and will teach you to have good hands.... Does it ?!? It's exactly the same camera as K100D just without SR, which doesn't affect AF at all, so the AF speed should really be the same...

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04-19-2008, 06:04 AM	#2
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	is the 28-50 a sigma? because the standard pentax kit is 18-55 DA and the 50-200 is it the pentax DA? I purchased the K110D w/ 18-55mm new about a year and a half ago for just under $400 and you can get the pentax DA 50-200mm brand new for $150-200 depending where you buy it so I think the price is a bit high especially if its a sigma lens.

04-19-2008, 06:30 AM	#3
tmacdon Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 143 Original Poster	both are the Pentax lenses. I chedked several current prices, and the package plus leneses were at least $750, new KEH has the entire set USED for $600. So was not looking so much at price, but at quality. Are you happy with your K110? WhatI hear is "yes, entry level, but a very good way to enter!"

04-19-2008, 06:52 AM	#4
krs Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Photos: Gallery Posts: 395	In my opinion, you have 2 or 3 things to consider: 1. Antishake The K110D does not have antishake, unlike the K100D, K10D, K200D, and K20D. You just need to consider how important this feature is to you (it is pretty important to me!). 2. Value Given the K100D has been out for a bit, are you really getting a good buy. With the two lenses and the homework you've done, maybe you are! I have the K100D (same as the K110D but with antishake) and found it a "very good way to enter!"

04-19-2008, 07:00 AM	#5
MrApollinax Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,529	Just to throw in my opinion as someone who just recently got into the DSLR realm: I bought a new K100D (with Shake Reduction) with the 18-55 kit lens for $509USD. If you were to buy a new 50-200 (which I have been looking into) it will cost you between $150-200USD. So if you go with that setup you will get the Shake Reduction feature for $50-100USD more than the used K110 kit. You may find down the road you can get the zoom lens for cheaper used. I am completely happy with my K100Ds purchase. No buyers remorse whatsoever. Especially so when I hear my Nikon and Canon buddies complain to me about the costs of VR/IS lenses

04-19-2008, 07:03 AM	#6
Stratman Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St Louis, Missouri U S A Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,464	K100D Super < body only > Amazon.com: Pentax K100D Super 6.1MP Digital SLR Camera Shake Reduction (Body Only): Camera & Photo NEW version of the kit lens Amazon.com: Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AL II Lens for Pentax and Samsung Digital SLR Cameras: Camera & Photo About the same $ as what you are looking at, with shake reduction.

04-19-2008, 07:14 AM	#7
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Originally posted by tmacdon Are you happy with your K110? WhatI hear is "yes, entry level, but a very good way to enter!" well, yes I am. though to be honest my superA 35mm film SLR gets allot more use than my digital and I'm looking into getting a used k10D but the k110D is a great starter, the k100 with SR is even better obviously but if you've never had a camera with it you wont miss anything. the world of photography got along fine without it all this time. whether its a K110, 100 or 100super doesn't matter because they are all essentially the same camera and it is a great piece of kit without a doubt. the only thing to take into consideration is that the 110 and 100 are officially discontinued if that has any effect on warranty and servicing. (I don't know as mine has never been serviced.)

04-19-2008, 08:01 AM	#9
Peter Zack Pentaxian Moderator Emeritus Join Date: May 2007 Location: Edmonton Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 10,643	I won't comment on the price but as a K110D owner will suggest you get the camera. It's a very good unit with all the same features other than SR which is in the upper end models. It uses the same senr as the K100D and K100D super. It has great low light sensitivity compared to many more expensive models. Nice and light with easy cotrols. Added bonus is the batteries are AA so you can get them anywhere when you run out. It's no slouch in terms of picture quality. Have a look at the images presented here with this camera: PENTAX Photo Gallery So if shake reduction is not a big issue, then get the camera and enjoy it. If someday you decide that some of the features of another model suit you better, this will always be a great backup camera.

04-19-2008, 08:48 AM	#10
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628	I agree with Peter. The K110D rocks. It is also faster to autofocus than the K100D's and will teach you to have good hands. I have never found the shake reduction to be a real plus, but that is me..My K110D has well over 30,000 actuations and going strong...It also has great battery life....

04-19-2008, 12:11 PM	#11
tmacdon Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 143 Original Poster	Thanks folks. This is all most helpful. I think I will present an option: the really K110 now and "local" or $100 more and off to the web for a slightly better one.

04-19-2008, 05:38 PM	#13
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628	Originally posted by axl Does it ?!? It's exactly the same camera as K100D just without SR, which doesn't affect AF at all, so the AF speed should really be the same... iF you turn the shake reduction off the K100D it is indeed quicker.

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