[egordon99]

Heck, I'd settle for a 17-300mm f/2.8

I think Tamron is supposed to come out with an 18-250mm for APS-C cameras, but I'm sure it will be slow as heck!

My one "superzoom" is a Vivitar 28-210mm f/4.5-6.7 (bought on eBay for $12!) works fine in bright daylight but that's about it!

Those don't exist, hence 200 choices:-(

When they make the 10-1,000mm f1.0 tilt-and-shift macro soft-focus (APO version of course), then they will be close.

[slip]

Thank you slipchuck, and I have read alot of your posts here and respect your opinions as well. I have done some research and have decided to get the kit lense until I learn the camera's features and then research the Sigma 17-70 you mentioned.
I plan on shooting outside quite a bit, and would like a good lense for vacation photos as well. I will more than likely take photos of family members at home as well.
I noticed the dedication to your son Nicholas, did he have cancer? I don't mean to intrude, but I kept seeing that in your sig and felt moved to ask.

thank you, xecutech

yes my son died of cancer at 4 years old. no you are not intruding, as my sig is meant to get people to go to my website and learn about bone marrow donation and consider doing it, thanks for asking

as far as the sigma 17-70 goes, I posted on this link a test shot that shows how close up it can get. nothing special, just a coke can

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/2572-pentax-le...able-zoom.html

good luck

cheers

randy

[Alvin]

Those don't exist, hence 200 choices:-(

When they make the 10-1,000mm f1.0 tilt-and-shift macro soft-focus (APO version of course), then they will be close.

You forgot...it's gotta be affordable too (say $200-250 CDN)