Originally posted by Imageman As far as im concerned this is absolutely on the money and well said.
But there are I think 3 factors affecting noise in sensors.
1 is the photosite size
2 is the basic chip construction CMOS or CCD (or indeed foveon) which affects the signal to noise ratio and quality of the image.
3 is the age of the chip. - Old chips were much noisier. look at the 2 megapixel chips with large photosites they were much noisier, iso 800 on those old 2001 sensors was often noisier than iso 64,000 is on some sensors today.
From what we have seen until today from actual devices:
1 is the sensor size... By far the biggest factor here
As you can see on this image there there is rougly 7EV difference on light gathering between smallest and biggest sensor... And that's because we don't yet have large sensor like 8x10...
2 Is the sensor technology.
- Do you use CMOS or CCD, how technology evolve arround it, how much the surface is used for circuitry or light gathering... How much is lost in colors filter and so on.
We got mostly 2EV from this front in the 5 last years... Most of it is using CMOS instead of CCD. I have seen 3EV difference with ist* and latest K3 and this is 8 years evolution on sensors.
3 Software
Big progress has been made on noise removal software in particular like lightroom and DxO. You gain easily 1-2EV compared as without noise removal.
4 Photosite size... Depending on the design, the more photosites you have, the less part of the sensor surface is used for light gathering (mostly dependant of the technology). This is not really visible in practice on latest models.
Why I put photosite size last?
Well the A7s bet on bigger photosite size (3 time bigger surface than D800) but is only gaining 1/3 of stop on DxO while the size factor if linear could mean gaining 1.5stop. More: they clain they didn't just use bigger photosites but also an improved design. My understanding is that only part of the improvement comes from the bigger photosites... maybe half... 1/6 of an EV... That's not really noticable or impressive to be honest.
You can add more examples: D600 & D800 have similar high iso performance but not the same photosite size. K5 has roughly same photosite site than D800 and same technology inside... But D800 a little more than 2.3 time the high iso performance in DxO ... And the sensor that is... 2.3 time bigger.
Photosite size has marginal impact on high iso performance.
Why I put sensor size first?
Because well software is available to everybody... You just need to wait for it and use when available. This doesn't really count. But all the progress made on sensor efficiancy in maybe 10 year cover more or less the performance difference between m4/3 and FF... If you cover the whole spectrum of sensor size, you may need to wait 10 year more until your small sensor beat the oldest FF. For practicall purpose and with sensor technology not making big advence at the moment... if you want more high iso performance, you want a bigger sensor. And this is not the A7s you should look at if that important for you... But more 645Z. Again the sensor size.