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08-14-2014, 10:05 AM   #121
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Lesson no. 2 by the instructor at the course is how to clean Canon lenses and sensor:

How you clean the Canon Mark 2 sensor and the 24-105 - YouTube
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Did I hear / read she paid $175 to take a beginners course and they are going to do some touring - well, here in Calgary they have a Canon store (but doesn't sell anything - only offers classes and has some lenses to try) They want $125 for one trip to the (Calgary) zoo to learn how to take photos through fences and glass. So I think she should have fun if nothing else.

But what do I know...

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So I think she should have fun if nothing else.
So do I, given that they will visit quite a few places, hang out with a bunch of friend and learn the basics of photography (even if at first I had my doubts about the teacher). It will be well worth the money. I think describing the "course" as "Learn photography as a pass-time, with likely minded fellow retiree" would better represent what it is. More of a social event to see if it would spark interest in photography.
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I suppose you get what you pay for:

University of Missouri - St. Louis - $945
ST ART 1060 Photography I (3)
An introduction to the techniques and aesthetics of digital photography, along with photo editing software and printing techniques. Students must provide a digital camera. Lab fee required. Basic computer lab equipment will be provided, though students will need to supply some personal equipment and supplies.

Meramec Community College - $303 ea

PHOT:705 Darkroom Developing and Printing for B&W Photography09/19-10/17

Darkroom Developing and Printing for B&W Photography10/14-11/11

PHOT:701 Digital Photography - Beginning Portraits10/04-10/11

PHOT:704 Digital Photography Introduction08/28-09/25

Digital Photography: Advanced11/13-12/11

Digital Photography: Intermediate10/09-11/06

PHOT:707 Digital Pictures: Introduction09/09-09/16

Digital Pictures: Introduction10/21-10/28

PHOT:712 Field Photography: Sporting Events, Weddings, etc.10/04-10/25

PHOT:708 Nature & Outdoor Photography09/06-09/27

PHOT:711 Studio Lighting, Portrait & Indoor Photography11/01-11/22

PHOT:701 Take Better Pictures: Intermediate10/20-11/17

Take Better Pictures: Introduction09/08-10/06

Film is offered in the Spring in place of digital. The instructors don't care what camera you use so long as you can operate it. Film courses require a manual camera with operable shutter speed and aperture ring on a lens. One of my KX'es has been through the Basic Film course three times (as a loaner) no questions asked. All classes have weekly developing lab time included - lab is either Photoshop or darkroom. Film classes permit use of professional darkroom instead of DIY lab for the uninitiated (those who haven;t taken darkroom as a prerequisite).

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With the recent lens discontinuations from (Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8, 50mm f/1.4 and 70mm f/2.8 Macro) expect Pentax to get even less love.
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QuoteOriginally posted by MD Optofonik Quote
Now for sale on eBay as, "recently CLAed".
Emphasis on the "C"!

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The best teacher...

The best teacher for any beginner photographer is... a good tripod & ballhead!

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Ha, ha, I first read that as "bald head", which does make some sense -- it helps make your fill light reflector "hands free".
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QuoteOriginally posted by Clavius Quote
So... Nobody wonders about the teachers motives? I've read the entire thread two times and nowhere I could find any reasons for the denial. If anything, the differences in camera systems is important to beginning photographers. So I would guess the teacher would have been happy to answer that, if he was asked the question. Wasn't the question even asked... or? Maybe using each others lenses is part of some of the lessons? It could easily be that simple.
I do. There could be other explanations besides arrogance or incompetence. Based on how the story was told, it doesn't sound good but this story has been filtered through two people's interpretations which might obscure the teacher's actual intent.
I might understand if the teacher was teaching specific techniques based on features found on specific cameras that they might not want cameras they are less familiar with in the class. If the student doesn't know their own camera the teacher would have an easier time if the student uses one the teacher is familiar with. If that was the case they should be very specific in the course information about their requirements and it sounds like they may not have been.

I took a class a few years ago from a photographer I know and respect. He has a huge body of work and I like the photos he takes. I had my K-x at the time and it wasn't a problem because I could figure out how to find all the modes he talked about. But something he said the other day over a beer kind of surprised me. He was asking if I'd seen the 645z and was saying that could be a camera that would bring him back to MF. Performance vs. price was probably the most compelling for him but he also excitedly mentioned doing in-camera RAW HDR as a compelling feature as well. He was surprised when I said my K-3 already does that!
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Oh whoa that's what happens when people aren't broad minded enough to research and are brand biased
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Oh whoa that's what happens when people aren't broad minded enough to research and are brand biased
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