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08-10-2014, 05:41 PM   #1
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Pentax K5 or K500

I sold my K7 , the funds are going into a new K ...
I do like the K5 , but Im wondering if perhaps I should buy a K500
If anyone has experience with both ?

Used K5 VS New K500 ( or should I go K50 ? )

Anyhow , I dont need weather sealed .. The camera will become my new dedicated Macro camera , so no battery grip needed ..
Will be fitted with a Tamron 90mm Macro lens ( current gen )

hmmmmm , your 5c worth most welcome ...

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If you have kept any spare batteries from the k7, then go for the k5. The k5 has the same build quality as the k7, and also has the same 14bit colour depth (k500 has 12bit). On the k500's side, you get a newer autofocus system.
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All three have roughly the same sensor so nothing deciding there. I suspect if you are used to the k-7 the k-5 would be a natural fit as the k-500 / k-50 bodies are different. The k-500 lacks WR sealing and AF sensor lights in the viewfinder, probably a few other things I forget..

I think if it was me I would go used k-5 just because all the buttons are the same as the k-7 and I would not have to get used to something else. According to your signature you already have a k-5 right? So another k-5 would have the same battery / charger. That alone would be a big incentive for me.
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For macro the k500's focus peaking would certainly come in handy. Perhaps you should consider the k3 to get the same build quality and feature set, though. They're not that expensive used and they'll last you


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I own a K5 , and the placement of buttons and such dont worry me ..
Primary need is image quality , I really like my K5 , but it is a little dated now .
The K500 is , equal - better - or not quite as good ?
I like the K7 , but it was not that good for a dedicated macro camera ( My K10D could take better images )
K7 is gone , I know what the K5 can do , but is the K500 as good or better than a K5 ?

What was the issue with the K7 U ask ?
It just could not handle the flash well , images were seriously burned or white washed , and I could not find a camera setting that could handle it ..
The K10 - K20 handle flash much better ..
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QuoteOriginally posted by old4570 Quote
The K500 is , equal - better - or not quite as good ?
As Adam noted the focusing peaking on the k-50 / 500 and k-3 are a plus for macro.

But k-500, k-50, k-5 all use the same sensor, the k-5 has 14bit processing the others only 12bit. So I would have to say from a strict IQ standpoint likely very little difference with an edge to the k-5.

So k-500 or k-50 = less sophisticated cameras, with slightly lower IQ and a different button layout and different battery, but you get focus peaking
k-5 = same feature set as your k-5 and k-7, slightly higher IQ, same button layout and battery
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Hmmmm

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As Adam noted the focusing peaking on the k-50 / 500 and k-3 are a plus for macro.

But k-500, k-50, k-5 all use the same sensor, the k-5 has 14bit processing the others only 12bit. So I would have to say from a strict IQ standpoint likely very little difference with an edge to the k-5.

So k-500 or k-50 = less sophisticated cameras, with slightly lower IQ and a different button layout and different battery, but you get focus peaking
k-5 = same feature set as your k-5 and k-7, slightly higher IQ, same button layout and battery
Ok focus peaking looks interesting ....

Price , the sale of the K7 has to fund its replacement , hence K5 or K500 ...

14bit VS 12bit , its more about how the camera deals with the flash , and whether the resulting picture is badly white washed ( Burned by the flash )

K3 , yeah , really waiting for the K3 Mark 2 , for some reason I fear most of the used K3's might suffer mirror droop .

Hopefully I may have some funds for a K3ii ( or K3i or K3s / what ever ) in 2015 ...

So Im leaning towards the K500 ( Focus peaking ) , I will have to read more about it , and how quick or slow it is .. 99.9% of my macro is hand held and only a few seconds for the shot ..
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QuoteOriginally posted by old4570 Quote
Ok focus peaking looks interesting ....

So Im leaning towards the K500 ( Focus peaking ) , I will have to read more about it , and how quick or slow it is .. 99.9% of my macro is hand held and only a few seconds for the shot ..
I have a K-30 and use focus peaking only when using a tripod. Focus peaking is only in live view, I would have a hard time hand holding using live view. The K-30 and later models have a little better autofocus than the K-5.

If you don't need weather sealing or AF points in the viewfinder the K-500 should be good enough. Of course you can get the K-50 for just a little more. A couple hundred more will get you a K-5iis. Plus buying new you'll get a warranty that you won't get buying used.

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QuoteOriginally posted by old4570 Quote
14bit VS 12bit , its more about how the camera deals with the flash , and whether the resulting picture is badly white washed ( Burned by the flash )
I think that is more technique than the camera, at least in the newer ones. Do you use manual flash or P-TTL?
QuoteOriginally posted by old4570 Quote
K3 , yeah , really waiting for the K3 Mark 2 , for some reason I fear most of the used K3's might suffer mirror droop .
Not a valid reason IMHO, I've had it happen twice on my k-3, pulled battery, put back in, was shooting again in less than 30 seconds. Oddly both times it happened was with the same lens, one I do not use often so I'm thinking it has to do with which lens is used (along with something else of course).
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So Im leaning towards the K500 ( Focus peaking ) , I will have to read more about it , and how quick or slow it is .. 99.9% of my macro is hand held and only a few seconds for the shot ..
Focus peaking uses the back LCD so only available in Liveview. I use it a good bit but only when on a tripod, just does not work (for me) to manually focus and use liveview hand held. YMMV.
QuoteOriginally posted by old4570 Quote
Hopefully I may have some funds for a K3ii ( or K3i or K3s / what ever ) in 2015 ...
But that will be back at full price then, whereas the k-5 or k-5II are already significantly discounted.
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Focus peaking = Yeah - Live view ..
P-TTL , Manual flash = Both ...
Flash - K7 / Macro and flash = very white washed ( flash Burned ) image ( Manual flash ) .. Only does it when @ 1:1 macro or better ( ?? Why )
K50 ?

Money is burning a hole in my pocket ..
So before the week is out ill have to spend it ...
Currently own :
K200D
K10D
K20D
K5

Do I want another K5 ?
I can afford the K500 from B&H + might have slightly better re-sale value , havent seen any K500's for sale in Australia , so just in case I dont like it ...
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Sorry that I don't give much input to your original question other than I LOVE MY K5IIs

But on this....
QuoteOriginally posted by old4570 Quote
Flash - K7 / Macro and flash = very white washed ( flash Burned ) image ( Manual flash ) .. Only does it when @ 1:1 macro or better ( ?? Why )
... I have a few questions:
- do you shoot RAW or JPG? Maybe the issue could be solved in post?
- what mode do you shoot in, i.e. who choses the exposure, the camera or you? Whenever I work with flash I shoot in M and tweak until I get the exposure right. Also, Cactus V6 + RF60 give very good tweak-ability on the flash output. Maybe it would be worth to invest in another flash setup?

Back to original question: K5IIs for president!!!
(totally not biased opinion of course)
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I shoot manual mode , run the lowest ISO possible , run the highest Fstop possible , I was shooting JPG , and yes PP can cure most ills ..
I usually take a few test shots to make sure it looks ok ...

But the K10D , K20D , K200D , K100D , istD , stDs , K5 , dont suffer flash burn anywhere near as bad as the K7 , could be maybe just that particular camera ? Who knows , its gone to a new home now , so its done and dusted .
There are a few K5's comming up on fleabay , ill see what they go for , the K500 will cost me about #500 ozzi bananas , I can pick up a K5 for about #400 ozzi bananas ( around 15000 shutter count ) , there is one I have an eye on ( SC-3000 ish ) , if I can get it for #400 bananas , I can live with that , if not , I might have to send #500 bananas to America ( B&H )





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If you can afford a little extra go for the K-5 IIs....no AA filter....
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QuoteOriginally posted by old4570 Quote
I shoot manual mode , run the lowest ISO possible , run the highest Fstop possible , I was shooting JPG , and yes PP can cure most ills ..
I usually take a few test shots to make sure it looks ok ...
Judging from your shots, you don't need my (limited) knowledge on "how-to", you came to the right conclusion that you need to ask the smart guys in this forum about the "what-with".
Great shots!

Besides that: K5IIs rules
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Ok , I just ordered a K50 , hope I dont have to wait too long .
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