K10D Firmware 1.3 Debug Mode Unleashed!

JayBee · 03-01-2009, 03:47 PM

After a few more severely back-focussed shots with my FA 50 1.4 this morning, I finally got up the nerve to try out the GX10-K10D Debug Mode Control on my ver. 1.3 K10D. I had downloaded the program several weeks ago, but it would cause my XP SP2 computer to reboot when I clicked on "Connect to DSLR". I loaded it onto a Windows 7 (beta) laptop, but Debug wouldn't recognize that the camera was connected, even though I could browse the card. "Opencam" error message. So, one more computer in the house - also XP SP2 so that's not the issue - and the connection was made.

I switched on Debug Control. Success! After disconnecting and turning the camera back on, sure enough, there was "Debug mode" in the LCD. It doesn't stay on forever, as I had gathered from other posts it would. The screen does black out completely after the usual interval.

I made my adjustments in AF Area Test 0. I set the adjustment to +100 and did some test shots with Yvon Bourque's chart (pentaxdslrs.blogspot.com), and much better! Not perfect, so I went back in and adjusted to +120. The scale had reset to zero by then, but the previously stored setting of 100 was displayed just above the scale. So, you don't have to remember your starting point (another thing I was concerned about after reading other posts.) More test shots; too far. I have settled on +110.

Checked it out with my 18-55 kit lens, and all good there too. It also had a back-focus problem. I then reconnected to the computer and switched off debug mode.

I will carry on testing with my Vivitar Series 1 70-210 and my Tamron Adaptalls (all manual focus). If those are good, then I'll have enough confidence in Pentax and my K10D to invest in the DA 12-24.

Meanwhile, I'll try not to wonder too much about whether I should have made adjustments in AF Test Areas other than 0.

Class A · 03-01-2009, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by JayBee

Meanwhile, I'll try not to wonder too much about whether I should have made adjustments in AF Test Areas other than 0.

That's fine. Please see earlier post regarding the AF Test Areas.

systemA · 03-01-2009, 05:11 PM

My one question:

Is there any way to switch to normal menu/preview shots from the debug menu while in use? Or is it stuck in the debug menu until you reconnect via usb, reprogram, and reboot?

Zebooka · 03-02-2009, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by systemA

My one question:

Is there any way to switch to normal menu/preview shots from the debug menu while in use? Or is it stuck in the debug menu until you reconnect via usb, reprogram, and reboot?

You need to turn-off debug mode with program for K10D/GX10 Ver 1.30 (it is the only way).
As for K100D Super - the only way to exit debug mode is like for K100D and *ists.

FullertonImages · 04-01-2009, 02:34 PM

I have a mac, will this program work, or do I need to find someone with a XP PC?

calicojack · 04-01-2009, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by GeneralBenson

I have a mac, will this program work, or do I need to find someone with a XP PC?

It seems to be most functional on a PC running XP. People have reported problems using Vista. Somehow I doubt that it will work on a MAC.

gregmoll · 04-12-2009, 07:36 AM

Hi,

What are the chances of this procedure working on a K200D, which I believe has the same processor as a K10. My K200 definitely front focuses.

If I try it can I damage the camera?

Greg

ozman · 04-12-2009, 04:53 PM

Hi,
I,ve been following this thread,And tried the program,Then I found this,Works great.
For the K10d (I have ver 1.3)
Hold play+OK while turning on
Then fn+fn+info+menu with in 5 seconds your in debug
For the ist DL (I have ver 1.03)
Hold AE-L+INFO
Then menu+menu+info Within 5 seconds

Charlie ps debug is dis=disable en=enable

iwhizz · 04-25-2009, 06:18 AM

my camera oso have BF / FF prob? is it fixable? help me.. im newbie

FYI : my camera is k10d.. just bought fa35mm f/2 dis morning but my camera give me headache as i cant try yet my new lense..

is this method work? any risk for further damage?

help me..!!!!!

Panoramix · 04-25-2009, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by GeneralBenson

I have a mac, will this program work, or do I need to find someone with a XP PC?

Try bootcamp; worked for me.

calicojack · 04-26-2009, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by ozman

Hi,
I,ve been following this thread,And tried the program,Then I found this,Works great.
For the K10d (I have ver 1.3)
Hold play+OK while turning on
Then fn+fn+info+menu with in 5 seconds your in debug
For the ist DL (I have ver 1.03)
Hold AE-L+INFO
Then menu+menu+info Within 5 seconds

Charlie ps debug is dis=disable en=enable

I tried your method to get into debug for my K10D (ver 1.3). Didn't work. What button are you calling "play"?

woodworm · 04-26-2009, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by ozman

Hi,
I,ve been following this thread,And tried the program,Then I found this,Works great.
For the K10d (I have ver 1.3)
Hold play+OK while turning on
Then fn+fn+info+menu with in 5 seconds your in debug
For the ist DL (I have ver 1.03)
Hold AE-L+INFO
Then menu+menu+info Within 5 seconds

Charlie ps debug is dis=disable en=enable

I'm pretty sure that doesn't work with firmware v1.3 which is why the debug program is required - this is only available with older firmware (v1.1?).

Don't have my K10D to hand, but it's on v1.3 and I'm 99% sure I've tried and failed with the above before now.

FullertonImages · 04-26-2009, 10:56 AM

Yeah, it doesn't work on v1.3, I have my camera in hand and just tried. Could you down rade to v1.1 and fix the focus then re-upgrade back to v1.3, or would the changes go away?

digital_aspirin · 04-26-2009, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by GeneralBenson

Yeah, it doesn't work on v1.3, I have my camera in hand and just tried. Could you down rade to v1.1 and fix the focus then re-upgrade back to v1.3, or would the changes go away?

Yes that would work. You could download the modified bin file here and follow the instructions. When you're done, you could just install version 1.3 back. The changes will not go away.

Squier · 04-28-2009, 05:40 PM

I'm still wondering where the PLAY button is that Ozman seems to have on his K10D.

03-01-2009, 03:47 PM	#61
JayBee Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Manitoba Photos: Gallery Posts: 119	Another happy customer After a few more severely back-focussed shots with my FA 50 1.4 this morning, I finally got up the nerve to try out the GX10-K10D Debug Mode Control on my ver. 1.3 K10D. I had downloaded the program several weeks ago, but it would cause my XP SP2 computer to reboot when I clicked on "Connect to DSLR". I loaded it onto a Windows 7 (beta) laptop, but Debug wouldn't recognize that the camera was connected, even though I could browse the card. "Opencam" error message. So, one more computer in the house - also XP SP2 so that's not the issue - and the connection was made. I switched on Debug Control. Success! After disconnecting and turning the camera back on, sure enough, there was "Debug mode" in the LCD. It doesn't stay on forever, as I had gathered from other posts it would. The screen does black out completely after the usual interval. I made my adjustments in AF Area Test 0. I set the adjustment to +100 and did some test shots with Yvon Bourque's chart (pentaxdslrs.blogspot.com), and much better! Not perfect, so I went back in and adjusted to +120. The scale had reset to zero by then, but the previously stored setting of 100 was displayed just above the scale. So, you don't have to remember your starting point (another thing I was concerned about after reading other posts.) More test shots; too far. I have settled on +110. Checked it out with my 18-55 kit lens, and all good there too. It also had a back-focus problem. I then reconnected to the computer and switched off debug mode. I will carry on testing with my Vivitar Series 1 70-210 and my Tamron Adaptalls (all manual focus). If those are good, then I'll have enough confidence in Pentax and my K10D to invest in the DA 12-24. Meanwhile, I'll try not to wonder too much about whether I should have made adjustments in AF Test Areas other than 0.

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03-01-2009, 04:45 PM	#62
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by JayBee Meanwhile, I'll try not to wonder too much about whether I should have made adjustments in AF Test Areas other than 0. That's fine. Please see earlier post regarding the AF Test Areas.

03-01-2009, 05:11 PM	#63
systemA Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 385	My one question: Is there any way to switch to normal menu/preview shots from the debug menu while in use? Or is it stuck in the debug menu until you reconnect via usb, reprogram, and reboot?

03-02-2009, 09:57 AM	#64
Zebooka Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Russia, Siberia, Novosibirsk Posts: 323	Originally posted by systemA My one question: Is there any way to switch to normal menu/preview shots from the debug menu while in use? Or is it stuck in the debug menu until you reconnect via usb, reprogram, and reboot? You need to turn-off debug mode with program for K10D/GX10 Ver 1.30 (it is the only way). As for K100D Super - the only way to exit debug mode is like for K100D and *ists.

04-01-2009, 02:34 PM	#65
FullertonImages Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 883	I have a mac, will this program work, or do I need to find someone with a XP PC?

04-01-2009, 05:14 PM	#66
calicojack Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island, N.Y. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,124	Originally posted by GeneralBenson I have a mac, will this program work, or do I need to find someone with a XP PC? It seems to be most functional on a PC running XP. People have reported problems using Vista. Somehow I doubt that it will work on a MAC.

04-12-2009, 07:36 AM	#67
gregmoll Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: South Africa Posts: 62	Hi, What are the chances of this procedure working on a K200D, which I believe has the same processor as a K10. My K200 definitely front focuses. If I try it can I damage the camera? Greg

04-12-2009, 04:53 PM	#68
ozman Inactive Account Join Date: May 2008 Location: Walnutport,Pa. Posts: 2	Hi, I,ve been following this thread,And tried the program,Then I found this,Works great. For the K10d (I have ver 1.3) Hold play+OK while turning on Then fn+fn+info+menu with in 5 seconds your in debug For the ist DL (I have ver 1.03) Hold AE-L+INFO Then menu+menu+info Within 5 seconds Charlie ps debug is dis=disable en=enable

04-25-2009, 06:18 AM	#69
iwhizz Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: jakarta Posts: 31	my camera oso have BF / FF prob? is it fixable? help me.. im newbie FYI : my camera is k10d.. just bought fa35mm f/2 dis morning but my camera give me headache as i cant try yet my new lense.. is this method work? any risk for further damage? help me..!!!!!

04-25-2009, 06:50 PM	#70
Panoramix New Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Soest Posts: 5	Originally posted by GeneralBenson I have a mac, will this program work, or do I need to find someone with a XP PC? Try bootcamp; worked for me.

04-26-2009, 08:38 AM	#71
calicojack Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island, N.Y. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,124	Originally posted by ozman Hi, I,ve been following this thread,And tried the program,Then I found this,Works great. For the K10d (I have ver 1.3) Hold play+OK while turning on Then fn+fn+info+menu with in 5 seconds your in debug For the ist DL (I have ver 1.03) Hold AE-L+INFO Then menu+menu+info Within 5 seconds Charlie ps debug is dis=disable en=enable I tried your method to get into debug for my K10D (ver 1.3). Didn't work. What button are you calling "play"?

04-26-2009, 10:10 AM	#72
woodworm Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: North Wales Posts: 266	Originally posted by ozman Hi, I,ve been following this thread,And tried the program,Then I found this,Works great. For the K10d (I have ver 1.3) Hold play+OK while turning on Then fn+fn+info+menu with in 5 seconds your in debug For the ist DL (I have ver 1.03) Hold AE-L+INFO Then menu+menu+info Within 5 seconds Charlie ps debug is dis=disable en=enable I'm pretty sure that doesn't work with firmware v1.3 which is why the debug program is required - this is only available with older firmware (v1.1?). Don't have my K10D to hand, but it's on v1.3 and I'm 99% sure I've tried and failed with the above before now.

04-26-2009, 10:56 AM	#73
FullertonImages Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 883	Yeah, it doesn't work on v1.3, I have my camera in hand and just tried. Could you down rade to v1.1 and fix the focus then re-upgrade back to v1.3, or would the changes go away?

04-26-2009, 12:28 PM	#74
digital_aspirin New Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Agios Dimitrios Posts: 16	Originally posted by GeneralBenson Yeah, it doesn't work on v1.3, I have my camera in hand and just tried. Could you down rade to v1.1 and fix the focus then re-upgrade back to v1.3, or would the changes go away? Yes that would work. You could download the modified bin file here and follow the instructions. When you're done, you could just install version 1.3 back. The changes will not go away.

04-28-2009, 05:40 PM	#75
Squier Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxfordshire UK Photos: Albums Posts: 706	I'm still wondering where the PLAY button is that Ozman seems to have on his K10D.