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05-20-2008, 05:44 AM   #16
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Wow, our shooting styles couldn't be more different. Can't even imagine being happy with only a 17-70 for majority of shots. I am into extremes. This week used the fisheye and next day the Celestron 1250mm. My 16-45 just sits in the bag, Only used once in a while when I need that 16mm (24 equivalent). Have four 24mm film lenses.
Not offended. Still think K20D wipes the 40D except in speed. The extra MP makes a difference even when not blowing up past 8x10. Just like the Canon 5D looks better than any of the Canon APSc cameras. Maybe its not MP, maybe its the chip.
Have you tried it K20D with the grip? Even without, the K20D is more comfortable to hold than the K10D. They changed the back of grip slightly. With grip both are beautiful to hold. I am not usually a grip person.
You need to actually shoot K20D vs Canon 40D and compare image quality. Canon and Nikon have never been as worried about IQ as Pentax. Remember Pentax was only one who bothered with medium format 645 or 6x7. Both still beat the quality of any Canon or Nikon made today!
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People shooting different ways is a good thing. I actually have a Tamron 70-300, I just don't use it for anything serious, mainly just family snap shots when I can't get close. Although my neighbor does enjoy it when I use it to take photos of her farm animals

I would like to have a 70-200 f/2.8 for less any your face portrait work though. For a good example of how people shoot differently take a look at this video:

ShutterSpeed Episode 01 | Nic Fillingham | Channel 10

Fast forward through the first 20 mins, it's all technical talk for newbs, but then they interview Phil Borges and he shows off his gear and gives away some of his tips. Given, he's a portrait photographer, but he mainly only shoots a few small primes and then he has that Canon 24-105 F4 L lens that he uses for framing (must be nice to have a $1000 lens for framing purposes only).

As far as the K20D goes...if it drops down to $1000 I'll most likely go with it instead of the 40D; but it has to do it before July because I'm not going to miss out on this 40D deal. My ideal kit would be the Pentax K20D + 17-70 f/4, then either the 50-135 or the Sigma 70-200mm HSM. I don't need a ton of range, but I do want good quality and low distortion in the range I do use.

Again though, megapixels don't mean a whole lot to me aside from giving me more cropping room. A 6 megapixel image printed 16x20 looks fine. And according to this test is indistinguishable from higher megapixel images by 47 out of 50 people:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/08/technology/08pogue.html

Besides, I used to work as a Photoshop expert for a large format decal printing company. Up scaling images 35mm images to fit on huge trailers used to be my job (see attached). You'll have to excuse the quality of the finished photo, apparently that was the best the applicators could do when they finished.
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05-22-2008, 07:22 AM   #18
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Sweet, the answer is yes, Pentax will follow Canon's rebate with one of their own:

PENTAX

Looks like it's time to sell the K100D and upgrade.
05-22-2008, 09:53 AM   #19
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I ordered my K200D yesterday. Bastards.

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Edit - whoops missed the small print.


I ordered mine a few days ago myself - I have emailed them about a grace period. I suppose I could return/repurchase it but it seems silly. I may just send it in regardless of what they say.

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The rebate form states that the "offer valid May22, 2008 through July 26, 2008". It's in smaller print at the top of the form.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Art Vandelay II Quote
Sweet, the answer is yes, Pentax will follow Canon's rebate with one of their own:

PENTAX

Looks like it's time to sell the K100D and upgrade.
Well that seals the deal for me! K200D here I come!
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Aww shucks, I ordered my K200D on May 6th.

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Thanks for posting that rebate info!

I just got the K200D W/18-55 AL II & the AF-360FGZ for $713.95 (after rebates) from Amazon

Can't wait.......now I need to hock my Panasonic PZ10
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Man...

My friend just ordered the 40d yesterday for $750 after instant savings and the big $200 rebate. That is a sweet deal.
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QuoteOriginally posted by budkid Quote
Man...

My friend just ordered the 40d yesterday for $750 after instant savings and the big $200 rebate. That is a sweet deal.
Where did he find it for $750 at? The cheapest I've managed to find it for is $950 for the body and $1130 with the 28-135mm lens.
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Where did he find it for $750 at? The cheapest I've managed to find it for is $950 for the body and $1130 with the 28-135mm lens.
Wouldn't $950 - $200 rebate = $750? Or are you saying the cheapest you've seen it is $950 after the rebate?
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Yeah, the cheapest I've seen it for after rebate is $950, well, $940 actually at Adorama. It slightly cheaper at some of the shady retailers, but I don't see anything below $900.

The cheapest I've found the K20D for so far is $1090 at Adorama. Then of course mail in the -$100 rebate for a total of $990.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Art Vandelay II Quote
Yeah, the cheapest I've seen it for after rebate is $950, well, $940 actually at Adorama. It slightly cheaper at some of the shady retailers, but I don't see anything below $900.

The cheapest I've found the K20D for so far is $1090 at Adorama. Then of course mail in the -$100 rebate for a total of $990.
Is it for real? Has anyone in the past received rebates from Pentax company directly? or do they deny people their rebate on one pretext or the other ??
I plan to buy a K200D!
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QuoteOriginally posted by danny09 Quote
Is it for real? Has anyone in the past received rebates from Pentax company directly? or do they deny people their rebate on one pretext or the other ??
I plan to buy a K200D!
FWIW, there's a blog posting from the head honcho at Pentax USA where he stated they had instructed the rebate processing company to be more lenient when reviewing claims. In the last round of rebates, my $300 took a while to arrive but it did arrive.
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