Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
05-15-2008, 02:48 PM   #1
Inactive Account




Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: BC, Canada
Posts: 302
K100D Super to K200D

Do I go for it? ...I know its up to me

I have been enjoying my K100D Super however, I am debating if the switch is worth it. I have 2 lenses idling and the K100D Super body that would cut the K200D price at about the halfway mark.

Things that interests me that the K200D has over the K100D Super are;

11-point SAFVOX VIII AF - is it better than the K100D Super AF?
Continuous Drive - is it still about 3FPS before the buffer is full?
RGB Histogram - something I'd like for sure.
Quieter shutter is nice.
10MP - 4MP extra can help sometimes but its not a make or break deal for me
Weather Sealed - again, my lens is not, so not an issue.

Feedback from all those who have upgraded to the K200D would be great.
TIA.

05-15-2008, 06:56 PM   #2
Senior Member




Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: melbourne, au
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 146
QuoteOriginally posted by metalfab Quote
Do I go for it? ...I know its up to me

11-point SAFVOX VIII AF - is it better than the K100D Super AF?
>>>>>> it might be better, but not obviously so
Continuous Drive - is it still about 3FPS before the buffer is full?
>>>>>> pretty much
RGB Histogram - something I'd like for sure.
Quieter shutter is nice.
>>>>>> is a bit quieter
10MP - 4MP extra can help sometimes but its not a make or break deal for me
>>>>>> as i said in the other post, it's a close call between noise and the extra 4mp
Weather Sealed - again, my lens is not, so not an issue.
>>>>>> if the back of your camera gets wet, it could be an issue, it's good to have

Feedback from all those who have upgraded to the K200D would be great.
TIA.
i have some info here
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/243873-post7.html

the dust removal is kind of useful, and kind of not, the dust alert on my camera says there is dust at the moment, but the dust removal can't remove it
i haven't tried my blower as i haven't taken any photos lately, but i want to check in an actual photo to see the dust first, i'm not totally convinced by the dust alert/removal system atm

dave

Last edited by dtra; 05-15-2008 at 06:58 PM. Reason: fix some stuff
05-16-2008, 12:21 AM   #3
axl
Veteran Member




Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 7,181
my point of view: Don't switch
- K100D/super uses the same Safox VIII with the same 11 points as K200D
- weather seals, if your lenses are not then... anyway I got caught in the shower with K100 without any protection on it, it's still kikcing strong!
- quieter shutter/mirror box, would be nice but is it worth so much extra money?
- 4mpx more, how much do you crop, how big do you print? you need to answer those questions to get answer as for it 4mpx will make differnce to you. f.e. if you don't crop and print 6x4 you won't see difference
- it's lenses that count don't trade your lenses for another body! It they are keepers, having said that.
So my conclusion again: don't switch. Spend the money on extra lenses or other equipment. And later when prices of K20D will come down or/and K300D will be out, upgrade for new body. K100 D/D super is great camera capable of achieving amazing results in right hands. If you don't believe, try to find some pics posted by members here like Stu (Little Laker)...
BR
05-16-2008, 12:51 AM   #4
Veteran Member
ftpaddict's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Yurp
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 4,669
ISO performance of the K200D doesn't even come close to the Super.

Switch to the 200 and you lose ISO 3200 and gain more noise.

05-16-2008, 01:59 AM   #5
Veteran Member
Matjazz's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: EU/Slovenia
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 774
I was considering K200D too, but decided to go for a much cheaper K100D Super and wait to see what K300D has to offer. When I held K200D I was surprised by it's size being the same as K100D's except for the thicker grip which makes ergonomics superior to DS let alone K100D. If it had pentaprism I might even consider switching my Super if I could sell it good (very unlikely)


Ah yes, my advice is don't switch.
05-16-2008, 03:19 AM   #6
Inactive Account




Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: BC, Canada
Posts: 302
Original Poster
Thanks for all the help everyone, I think I needed some common sense driven into me as well.
05-16-2008, 05:31 AM   #7
Veteran Member




Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 1,934
QuoteOriginally posted by metalfab Quote
11-point SAFVOX VIII AF - is it better than the K100D Super AF?
No. It is the same, somehow sluggish and insensitive, especially at indoor dimmer conditions.

QuoteQuote:
Continuous Drive - is it still about 3FPS before the buffer is full?
The buffer is still very small and shooting rate is low: 2.8 fps.

QuoteQuote:
RGB Histogram - something I'd like for sure.
I like it too but I don't think it's crucial.

QuoteQuote:
Quieter shutter is nice.
The mirror action is smoother and the shutter/mirror noise is lower. However, I feel that the time lag is longer.

QuoteQuote:
10MP - 4MP extra can help sometimes but its not a make or break deal for me
Well, the more pixels are yet still better, when you are to print the pics large, or if you like to crop pics quite often.

QuoteQuote:
Weather Sealed - again, my lens is not, so not an issue.
Yes, it is not a real feature unless you have also weather sealed DA* lenses.

QuoteQuote:
Feedback from all those who have upgraded to the K200D would be great.
TIA.
I suggest that you should wait unitl significant improvements are included in the future model.
05-16-2008, 06:15 AM   #8
Veteran Member
ftpaddict's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Yurp
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 4,669
Leave it to RiceHigh to add something bad in everything he says.

05-16-2008, 07:17 AM   #9
Forum Member




Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Oregon
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 74
However, the raw button is nice, plus you have the ability to shoot both raw +jpeg at the same time. I have both the cameras mentioned and that is one feature I miss when shooting the K100D Super. I have found that the K100D Super is very infrared sensitive and the K200D (and others with that same 10.2MP sensor) is not, so keep the K100D Super and get a R72 filter and check it out.
05-16-2008, 07:37 AM   #10
Veteran Member




Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 1,934
QuoteOriginally posted by GearHead Quote
However, the raw button is nice, plus you have the ability to shoot both raw +jpeg at the same time. I have both the cameras mentioned and that is one feature I miss when shooting the K100D Super. I have found that the K100D Super is very infrared sensitive and the K200D (and others with that same 10.2MP sensor) is not, so keep the K100D Super and get a R72 filter and check it out.
Used the PEF2JPEG (PEF2JPEG : Extract L* jpeg from *istD / K series raw data) and I have never missed the JPEG+RAW mode.
05-16-2008, 09:08 AM   #11
Forum Member




Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Oregon
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 74
QuoteOriginally posted by GearHead Quote
However, the raw button is nice, plus you have the ability to shoot both raw +jpeg at the same time. I have both the cameras mentioned and that is one feature I miss when shooting the K100D Super. I have found that the K100D Super is very infrared sensitive and the K200D (and others with that same 10.2MP sensor) is not, so keep the K100D Super and get a R72 filter and check it out.
I didn't state that very well (just woke up and still a bit sleepy). As you can tell, I like them both. It really depends on what type of shooting you like. For landscapes, it's nice to have a bit more detail, but not a big deal. If you like IR, then stick with the K100D Super. The K100D Super is also a bit more portable. If you like to shoot straight to jpeg, the K200D has more shooting capture modes/filters, but you can also capture the raw to change those selections later in PP.
05-16-2008, 12:52 PM   #12
Junior Member
usapatriot's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Miami, FL
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 44
I have a Pentax K200D and I think that's its a great camera.
05-16-2008, 01:03 PM   #13
Veteran Member
Gooshin's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Toronto, the one in Canada.
Posts: 5,611
one thing in defence of the quieter mirror mechanism, this would theoreticaly translate into less vibrations and therefore cleaner images, no?
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
af, camera, dslr, k100d, k200d, photography
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
K100D Super or K200D ? sablier Pentax DSLR Discussion 23 12-17-2009 03:36 AM
Recently new K100D Super, SOON to a K200D Ron_Man Welcomes and Introductions 3 05-12-2009 01:47 PM
Had sights set on K200D, now considering a K100D Super skid2964 Pentax DSLR Discussion 28 06-21-2008 03:11 PM
re: K100D Super to K200D to... metalfab Pentax DSLR Discussion 5 05-17-2008 02:01 PM
any reason to take the k100d super over the k200d? dtra Pentax DSLR Discussion 9 03-19-2008 10:44 PM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:31 PM. | See also: NikonForums.com, part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top