K5 iis vs K50/K30

stevebrot · 10-23-2014, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by cport

1) there are no limitations when using tripod

You lost me here. What tripod limitations are you referring to?

Steve

cport · 10-23-2014, 11:16 PM

Probably nothing serious - this might be subjective. If I remember well - I missed MUP modes and a possibility to use my wireless remote control when shooting exposure bracketing and having the camera on a tripod.

Oldbayrunner · 10-24-2014, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by SMeK

How bad is that ? Can you give me photo, straight out of camera on daylight with awb ? Thank you all. Now AWB is only thing which bothering me. Few straight out of camera samples should do the trick

As bad as it is with most cameras, no different. Why are you hung up on AWB? AWB isn't the best to use in most situations with any camera, that is of course unless you like correcting your WB in post processing.

You Tube

The more you creatively control your cameras output the better off you will be. This isn't subjective to just the K5's or K3 it is subjective to any camera that you have the ability to control. No cameras auto modes will be correct for many situations. You are the brains behind it, your knowledge of your camera and your ability to manually use the controls to make adjustments for the varied situations you are faced with will determine your cameras output regardless of what make or model dslr camera you use.

You want samples here are tons of them https://www.flickr.com/groups/k5/
https://www.flickr.com/groups/pentaxk3/
https://www.flickr.com/groups/pentaxk30/

**Des** · 10-24-2014, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by DSims

You also may do better selecting a specific AF point - I usually use one of the corners for composition's sake.

The number of AF points never seemed much of a selling point to me. I've almost always used centre spot AF and re-composed. Wouldn't using a corner spot for focusing require some mental gymnastics, or does it come easily after a while?

SMeK · 10-25-2014, 06:35 AM

Does anyone have K-x and K5iis and can you upload one straight out jpg, side by side? thank you.. I thinking i will buy k5iis, just want to see direct comprasion in same real life situation. Thank you.

DSims · 10-28-2014, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by Des

The number of AF points never seemed much of a selling point to me. I've almost always used centre spot AF and re-composed. Wouldn't using a corner spot for focusing require some mental gymnastics, or does it come easily after a while?

I think it's easier, overall. You should be deliberate with your composition, and most of the time you have no business pressing that shutter if you don't know what (or who) you're focusing on.

For action photos it can be tricky, because you may need to change your selected focus point from time to time. Often I'm able to pick a corner that will work (compositionally) in both portrait and landscape camera orientations, without having to select an new AF point.

If using center-point AF, the alternative is to way-overshoot the borders (using a much wider angle than needed) and then crop later. But it's more difficult to get the same "look" that a telephoto lens would give you. Re-composing can introduce focusing errors, and if your subject is static it's actually easier to just move the AF point on the camera.

To directly answer your question, changing the AF point becomes relatively easy after you get used to doing it. More AF points is definitely better, and they should spread out relatively far from the center of the frame.

SMeK · 10-29-2014, 11:32 AM

So it is, just ordered K5iis and now wait for a week or two

SMeK · 10-31-2014, 07:06 AM

and waiting sucks...

C_Jones · 10-31-2014, 09:18 AM

I doubt you will ever have any regrets. Maybe over time you will get something else in the future, and I am not going to put down any other model, but the K-5IIS is an excellent performer.

**Just1MoreDave** · 10-31-2014, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by SMeK

and waiting sucks...

The worst part is waiting for the battery to charge. If you got one of those deals with a free grip, you can load up some AAs temporarily.

SMeK · 10-31-2014, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by Just1MoreDave

The worst part is waiting for the battery to charge. If you got one of those deals with a free grip, you can load up some AAs temporarily.

No it is body only. What do you think about cheap ebay bateries (15-20$ ? ) Is it worth it ?

---------- Post added 01-11-14 at 00:55 ----------

Originally posted by C_Jones

I doubt you will ever have any regrets. Maybe over time you will get something else in the future, and I am not going to put down any other model, but the K-5IIS is an excellent performer.

I dont think I'll need something better in APS-C size... Maybe when they anounce FF in far future lol

**Just1MoreDave** · 10-31-2014, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by SMeK

No it is body only. What do you think about cheap ebay bateries (15-20$ ? ) Is it worth it ?

I got 2 no-name batteries in March 2010 for my K-7 and have rotated them regularily with one genuine Pentax. I never fully trust them but they still seem to work just like they always did, doing their fair share of 29,000 shots. I just got a new K-5 IIs and the old set of batteries seems the same as the new one. But who knows whether you'd get something similar, or a complete lemon.

SMeK · 11-01-2014, 03:22 AM

Originally posted by Just1MoreDave

I got 2 no-name batteries in March 2010 for my K-7 and have rotated them regularily with one genuine Pentax. I never fully trust them but they still seem to work just like they always did, doing their fair share of 29,000 shots. I just got a new K-5 IIs and the old set of batteries seems the same as the new one. But who knows whether you'd get something similar, or a complete lemon.

K, i will try it then, they are cheap and i dont like battery grip, camera looks funny and is much heavier ( i am on my bike a lot troguht woods and hills )

simon6z · 11-01-2014, 09:32 AM

I would want K30!! Though it doesn't have afew functions K5iis have but the double AA battery and colourful bodies plus focus peaking is good enough for me

**Des** · 11-01-2014, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by simon6z

I would want K30!! Though it doesn't have afew functions K5iis have but the double AA battery and colourful bodies plus focus peaking is good enough for me

I have the AA battery adapter for my K-30 but only keep it for emergencies. A Li109 in the camera and a spare (or two) in the pocket is lighter than a set of AA batteries. If it doesn't last as long I don't mind too much. If you are away from a power source for some days the equation might be different.

+1 on focus peaking.

As for the colours, I wanted a blue one, but had to settle for black. I'm over the disappointment now.

10-31-2014, 09:18 AM	#24
C_Jones Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,084	Nice Choice I doubt you will ever have any regrets. Maybe over time you will get something else in the future, and I am not going to put down any other model, but the K-5IIS is an excellent performer.

11-01-2014, 03:38 PM	#30
Des Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Victoria Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 6,423	Originally posted by simon6z I would want K30!! Though it doesn't have afew functions K5iis have but the double AA battery and colourful bodies plus focus peaking is good enough for me I have the AA battery adapter for my K-30 but only keep it for emergencies. A Li109 in the camera and a spare (or two) in the pocket is lighter than a set of AA batteries. If it doesn't last as long I don't mind too much. If you are away from a power source for some days the equation might be different. +1 on focus peaking. As for the colours, I wanted a blue one, but had to settle for black. I'm over the disappointment now. Last edited by Des; 11-02-2014 at 04:20 AM.

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stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by cport 1) there are no limitations when using tripod You lost me here. What tripod limitations are you referring to? Steve

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cport Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 428	Probably nothing serious - this might be subjective. If I remember well - I missed MUP modes and a possibility to use my wireless remote control when shooting exposure bracketing and having the camera on a tripod.

10-24-2014, 04:02 PM	#19
Des Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Victoria Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 6,423	Originally posted by DSims You also may do better selecting a specific AF point - I usually use one of the corners for composition's sake. The number of AF points never seemed much of a selling point to me. I've almost always used centre spot AF and re-composed. Wouldn't using a corner spot for focusing require some mental gymnastics, or does it come easily after a while?

10-25-2014, 06:35 AM	#20
SMeK Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 150 Original Poster	Does anyone have K-x and K5iis and can you upload one straight out jpg, side by side? thank you.. I thinking i will buy k5iis, just want to see direct comprasion in same real life situation. Thank you.

10-28-2014, 02:34 PM	#21
DSims Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,236	Originally posted by Des The number of AF points never seemed much of a selling point to me. I've almost always used centre spot AF and re-composed. Wouldn't using a corner spot for focusing require some mental gymnastics, or does it come easily after a while? I think it's easier, overall. You should be deliberate with your composition, and most of the time you have no business pressing that shutter if you don't know what (or who) you're focusing on. For action photos it can be tricky, because you may need to change your selected focus point from time to time. Often I'm able to pick a corner that will work (compositionally) in both portrait and landscape camera orientations, without having to select an new AF point. If using center-point AF, the alternative is to way-overshoot the borders (using a much wider angle than needed) and then crop later. But it's more difficult to get the same "look" that a telephoto lens would give you. Re-composing can introduce focusing errors, and if your subject is static it's actually easier to just move the AF point on the camera. To directly answer your question, changing the AF point becomes relatively easy after you get used to doing it. More AF points is definitely better, and they should spread out relatively far from the center of the frame.

10-29-2014, 11:32 AM	#22
SMeK Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 150 Original Poster	So it is, just ordered K5iis and now wait for a week or two

10-31-2014, 07:06 AM	#23
SMeK Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 150 Original Poster	and waiting sucks...

10-31-2014, 10:11 AM	#25
Just1MoreDave Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Aurora, CO Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,340	Originally posted by SMeK and waiting sucks... The worst part is waiting for the battery to charge. If you got one of those deals with a free grip, you can load up some AAs temporarily.

10-31-2014, 04:53 PM	#26
SMeK Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 150 Original Poster	Originally posted by Just1MoreDave The worst part is waiting for the battery to charge. If you got one of those deals with a free grip, you can load up some AAs temporarily. No it is body only. What do you think about cheap ebay bateries (15-20$ ? ) Is it worth it ? ---------- Post added 01-11-14 at 00:55 ---------- Originally posted by C_Jones I doubt you will ever have any regrets. Maybe over time you will get something else in the future, and I am not going to put down any other model, but the K-5IIS is an excellent performer. I dont think I'll need something better in APS-C size... Maybe when they anounce FF in far future lol

10-31-2014, 06:32 PM	#27
Just1MoreDave Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Aurora, CO Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,340	Originally posted by SMeK No it is body only. What do you think about cheap ebay bateries (15-20$ ? ) Is it worth it ? I got 2 no-name batteries in March 2010 for my K-7 and have rotated them regularily with one genuine Pentax. I never fully trust them but they still seem to work just like they always did, doing their fair share of 29,000 shots. I just got a new K-5 IIs and the old set of batteries seems the same as the new one. But who knows whether you'd get something similar, or a complete lemon.

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11-01-2014, 03:22 AM	#28
SMeK Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 150 Original Poster	Originally posted by Just1MoreDave I got 2 no-name batteries in March 2010 for my K-7 and have rotated them regularily with one genuine Pentax. I never fully trust them but they still seem to work just like they always did, doing their fair share of 29,000 shots. I just got a new K-5 IIs and the old set of batteries seems the same as the new one. But who knows whether you'd get something similar, or a complete lemon. K, i will try it then, they are cheap and i dont like battery grip, camera looks funny and is much heavier ( i am on my bike a lot troguht woods and hills )

11-01-2014, 09:32 AM	#29
simon6z Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 84	I would want K30!! Though it doesn't have afew functions K5iis have but the double AA battery and colourful bodies plus focus peaking is good enough for me