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11-12-2014, 08:12 AM   #1
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Will Ricoh use this new Sony sensor in future bodies?

(SR4) Hot news! Sony revolutionizes the sensor world? Makes world’s first Active Pixel Color Sampling sensor (APCS). | sonyalpharumors

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I doubt it. This looks like a video sensor, only 4.8mp.
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QuoteOriginally posted by audiobomber Quote
I doubt it. This looks like a video sensor, only 4.8mp.
Once they get a 5mp version working well, normal engineering progression could easily lead to a larger one.
Presumably the Sony camera line would get it before anyone else could even think about it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by reh321 Quote
Once they get a 5mp version working well, normal engineering progression could easily lead to a larger one.
A sensor with more megapixels would be a different sensor, so my reply stands.

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The backlit technology Sony announced for cell phone cameras and used in Pentax's WG cameras has never made it to APS-c. I assume there are technical reasons for that. The fact that something is announced for small sensors doesn't mean the same technology will be developed for larger sensors. Things it seems, are a little more complicated than that.
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QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
The backlit technology Sony announced for cell phone cameras and used in Pentax's WG cameras has never made it to APS-c. I assume there are technical reasons for that. The fact that something is announced for small sensors doesn't mean the same technology will be developed for larger sensors. Things it seems, are a little more complicated than that.
BSI moved up to APS-C in September:

Samsung Semiconductors Global Site

"The new S5KVB2 is the industry’s first APS-C sensor to adopt back-side illuminated (BSI) pixel technology."
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Looks like Fuji is working on a new sensor too.

Fujifilm and Panasonic jointly develop an organic CMOS image sensor technology using organic photoelectric conversion layer | Fujifilm Global
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QuoteOriginally posted by lytrytyr Quote
BSI moved up to APS-C in September:

Samsung Semiconductors Global Site

"The new S5KVB2 is the industry’s first APS-C sensor to adopt back-side illuminated (BSI) pixel technology."
INeresting, but it looks like it was designed for APS-c. Sony still hasn't made an APS_c sensor. On the organics, it's long been rumour canon is working on an organic sensor, and that that's why they've fallen so far behind everyone else. The theory is they've been behind, but they're about to jump way ahead.

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QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
The fact that something is announced for small sensors doesn't mean the same technology will be developed for larger sensors.
The new Sony sensor that Winder linked is APS-C.
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I don't believe a 23.5 diagonal makes it APS-c, don't make me use my Pythagorean Theorem on you,

---------- Post added 11-12-14 at 01:09 PM ----------

Looking at the Samsung 28 MP and K-3 at 3200 ISO, man I hate it when the latest greatest new stuff isn't as good as what you're using. What am I supposed to get excited about now? Maybe it's just Samsung sucks...


Some one say something stupid, like, "well it's not as good right now but it has more potential, "

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QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
I don't believe a 23.5 diagonal makes it APS-c
Oops, I saw 1.5 sensor and read 1.5X crop. It is smaller than APS-C, larger than m4/3, as used in the 1.5" Canon G1 X Mark II.

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don't make me use my Pythagorean Theorem on you,
I'm impressed you can spell it. ;-)
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QuoteOriginally posted by audiobomber Quote
A sensor with more megapixels would be a different sensor, so my reply stands.
I'm referring to the technology not the specific sensor. The sensor represents new technology.

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Nikon also filing a patent on a sensor with honeycomb pixel pattern. Like the old Fuji Super CCD.
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i think all brands are trying to see what else can be done other than the current bayer cmos sensors. Exciting times, though i doubt we will see anything truly revolutionary in the next year or two
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QuoteOriginally posted by interested_observer Quote
Interesting.

I wonder what the effective "shutter speed" of each of the three color captures works out at,
and how long it takes to complete the sequence..
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