Win a Pentax Limited Lens: Raffle Now Live!

**MJSfoto1956** · 12-04-2014, 07:39 AM

It would be really SWEET if Pentax would offer this in its cameras:

Rumor: The Olympus E-M5II Will Use Sensor Shift to Capture 40MP Photos with a 16MP Sensor

Michael

redcat · 12-04-2014, 07:46 AM

I gonna buy a new computer for this though, 200MB a photo, that's a lot of details

Na Horuk · 12-04-2014, 07:48 AM

Nice, another of those things Pentax should have done years ago

aleonx3 · 12-04-2014, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by redcat

I gonna buy a new computer for this though, 200MB a photo, that's a lot of details

Imagine what Pentax can do with the k-3 24.4 sensor, we all need new computers with faster processor and higher capacity hard drives.

ChristianRock · 12-04-2014, 08:28 AM

How many people really need such high MP count though? I know I don't, but I don't print wall-sized photos.

**Digitalis** · 12-04-2014, 08:31 AM

this would work providing their lenses have an image circle big enough to do this without vignetting.

stevebrot · 12-04-2014, 08:32 AM

This is an interesting concept, though I suspect that it would not work with IBIS engaged nor at higher shutter speeds nor with other than static subjects. Still, imagine the S/N ratio and resolution with a modern 12 or 16 Mpx sensor shifted in this manner.

Steve

Na Horuk · 12-04-2014, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

this would work providing their lenses have an image circle big enough to do this without vignetting.

But the shift is only one or two pixels, no? And cropping is not a big issue, since this feature would mostly be used in a controlled environment anyway, and produce 40MP images.

Originally posted by stevebrot

This is an interesting concept, though I suspect that it would not work with IBIS engaged nor at higher shutter speeds nor with other than static subjects.

Yup, exactly, it would have very limited use, but for some photographers, it would be exactly what they need. Its a much less costly solution, compared to buying cameras with such high MP count

stevebrot · 12-04-2014, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

this would work providing their lenses have an image circle big enough to do this without vignetting.

It is done with a precision shift of only micrometers to allow each physical sensor site to have multiple inputs to the final image. This would be filling in the blanks, so to speak. Image circle should not be an issue. What is intriguing to me is the part of about aligning the R, G, and B sites at the same point to essentially emulate a Foveon.

Steve

**MJSfoto1956** · 12-04-2014, 08:37 AM - **1 Like**

it is indeed only for static (e.g. studio) shots. The image circle is not increased and thus it works with any existing lens. The only three DSLR companies that could deliver this are Sony, Olympus, and Pentax because only these three offer in-body stabilization. Like the AstroTracer feature, it would be a specialty item -- something that you would deliberately set the camera up for.

Michael

BrianR · 12-04-2014, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by ChristianRock

How many people really need such high MP count though? I know I don't, but I don't print wall-sized photos.

Very few people probably need it, but if you've already got the hardware to do it, why not? It's limited in use and appeal, but it wouldn't get in the way of people who don't use the feature.

Since those Hasselblads came out a few years ago, it seemed like only a matter of time before companies with in body stabilization started to throw this together. You could even leave it to computer software to do the processing.

Scobra · 12-04-2014, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by BrianR

Very few people probably need it, but if you've already got the hardware to do it, why not? It's limited in use and appeal, but it wouldn't get in the way of people who don't use the feature.

Gigapan photography, where ever-higher total pixel resolution is the main goal, might find this feature useful.

ChristianRock · 12-04-2014, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by BrianR

Very few people probably need it, but if you've already got the hardware to do it, why not? It's limited in use and appeal, but it wouldn't get in the way of people who don't use the feature.

Since those Hasselblads came out a few years ago, it seemed like only a matter of time before companies with in body stabilization started to throw this together. You could even leave it to computer software to do the processing.

Oh I wouldn't mind it at all if it was an option - and I don't mind it's not. I'm just saying, I don't think I'd ever use it. If others find it useful, that's great

goodnight · 12-04-2014, 10:37 AM

I played around with the composition adjustment feature on my K-30 the other day and found it pretty neat. I wonder why Pentax hasn't implemented something like this? They're missing out on the hype train, at least.

RonHendriks1966 · 12-04-2014, 02:43 PM

With the K-3 you would end up with 60 megapixel images...............who needs 645Z then?

12-04-2014, 07:39 AM	#1
MJSfoto1956 Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Boston Posts: 1,305	Olympus will use sensor shift for 40mp (still) captures It would be really SWEET if Pentax would offer this in its cameras: Rumor: The Olympus E-M5II Will Use Sensor Shift to Capture 40MP Photos with a 16MP Sensor Michael

12-04-2014, 07:48 AM	#3
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Nice, another of those things Pentax should have done years ago Last edited by Na Horuk; 12-04-2014 at 07:57 AM.

12-04-2014, 10:26 AM	#12
Scobra Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 56	Sometimes it would be useful Originally posted by BrianR Very few people probably need it, but if you've already got the hardware to do it, why not? It's limited in use and appeal, but it wouldn't get in the way of people who don't use the feature. Gigapan photography, where ever-higher total pixel resolution is the main goal, might find this feature useful.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Sensor shift	chiane	Pentax K-5 & K-5 II	47	12-04-2014 10:40 AM
Will Ricoh use this new Sony sensor in future bodies?	Winder	Pentax DSLR Discussion	22	11-19-2014 05:17 AM
Patents: Sensor shift AF, 80-160 for 645	JPT	Pentax News and Rumors	35	07-31-2014 04:24 PM
Rebuttal: My Image Sensor Captures Images	DavidSKAF3	General Talk	34	01-07-2014 11:37 AM

12-04-2014, 07:46 AM	#2
redcat Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Paris Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,939	I gonna buy a new computer for this though, 200MB a photo, that's a lot of details

12-04-2014, 08:03 AM	#4
aleonx3 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brampton, Ontario Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,996	Originally posted by redcat I gonna buy a new computer for this though, 200MB a photo, that's a lot of details Imagine what Pentax can do with the k-3 24.4 sensor, we all need new computers with faster processor and higher capacity hard drives.

12-04-2014, 08:28 AM	#5
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,912	How many people really need such high MP count though? I know I don't, but I don't print wall-sized photos.

12-04-2014, 08:31 AM	#6
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,695	this would work providing their lenses have an image circle big enough to do this without vignetting.

12-04-2014, 08:32 AM	#7
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	This is an interesting concept, though I suspect that it would not work with IBIS engaged nor at higher shutter speeds nor with other than static subjects. Still, imagine the S/N ratio and resolution with a modern 12 or 16 Mpx sensor shifted in this manner. Steve

12-04-2014, 08:34 AM	#8
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Originally posted by Digitalis this would work providing their lenses have an image circle big enough to do this without vignetting. But the shift is only one or two pixels, no? And cropping is not a big issue, since this feature would mostly be used in a controlled environment anyway, and produce 40MP images. Originally posted by stevebrot This is an interesting concept, though I suspect that it would not work with IBIS engaged nor at higher shutter speeds nor with other than static subjects. Yup, exactly, it would have very limited use, but for some photographers, it would be exactly what they need. Its a much less costly solution, compared to buying cameras with such high MP count

12-04-2014, 08:37 AM	#9
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Digitalis this would work providing their lenses have an image circle big enough to do this without vignetting. It is done with a precision shift of only micrometers to allow each physical sensor site to have multiple inputs to the final image. This would be filling in the blanks, so to speak. Image circle should not be an issue. What is intriguing to me is the part of about aligning the R, G, and B sites at the same point to essentially emulate a Foveon. Steve

12-04-2014, 08:37 AM - 1 Like	#10
MJSfoto1956 Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Boston Posts: 1,305 Original Poster	it is indeed only for static (e.g. studio) shots. The image circle is not increased and thus it works with any existing lens. The only three DSLR companies that could deliver this are Sony, Olympus, and Pentax because only these three offer in-body stabilization. Like the AstroTracer feature, it would be a specialty item -- something that you would deliberately set the camera up for. Michael

12-04-2014, 10:20 AM	#11
BrianR Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,332	Originally posted by ChristianRock How many people really need such high MP count though? I know I don't, but I don't print wall-sized photos. Very few people probably need it, but if you've already got the hardware to do it, why not? It's limited in use and appeal, but it wouldn't get in the way of people who don't use the feature. Since those Hasselblads came out a few years ago, it seemed like only a matter of time before companies with in body stabilization started to throw this together. You could even leave it to computer software to do the processing.

12-04-2014, 10:36 AM	#13
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,912	Originally posted by BrianR Very few people probably need it, but if you've already got the hardware to do it, why not? It's limited in use and appeal, but it wouldn't get in the way of people who don't use the feature. Since those Hasselblads came out a few years ago, it seemed like only a matter of time before companies with in body stabilization started to throw this together. You could even leave it to computer software to do the processing. Oh I wouldn't mind it at all if it was an option - and I don't mind it's not. I'm just saying, I don't think I'd ever use it. If others find it useful, that's great

12-04-2014, 10:37 AM	#14
goodnight Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 128	I played around with the composition adjustment feature on my K-30 the other day and found it pretty neat. I wonder why Pentax hasn't implemented something like this? They're missing out on the hype train, at least.

12-04-2014, 02:43 PM	#15
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	With the K-3 you would end up with 60 megapixel images...............who needs 645Z then?

Olympus will use sensor shift for 40mp (still) captures

Win a Pentax Limited Lens: Raffle Now Live!