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RodBoy · 02-13-2015, 09:17 AM

Your original question was "why you think Pentax is doomed?"
I didn't before reading thru this thread.
I thought this forum was meant to support us users.
Anyway, I don't think it is doomed. I researched the hell out of a good high end dslr
before buying the K-3. I waded thru all the propaganda that spews out against Pentax
and still bought the K-3.
It's not a popularity contest for me. I like my decision.
It will take some time to quiet all the doubters.
All that is needed is good advertisement of which Pentax has none.

ragmanjin · 02-13-2015, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by RodBoy

Your original question was "why you think Pentax is doomed?"
I didn't before reading thru this thread.
I thought this forum was meant to support us users.
Anyway, I don't think it is doomed. I researched the hell out of a good high end dslr
before buying the K-3. I waded thru all the propaganda that spews out against Pentax
and still bought the K-3.
It's not a popularity contest for me. I like my decision.
It will take some time to quiet all the doubters.
All that is needed is good advertisement of which Pentax has none.

These guys have helped Ricoh make good commercials in the past:

You Tube

willskywalker93 · 02-14-2015, 07:02 AM

after using a Canon 1diin and 5dii for work, I think it's safe to say Pentax is doomed because their ergonomics and user interfaces don't absolutely suck. Because any high end dslr that can be turned on and used with only one hand is clearly garbage, which means I should hate my k3.

VoiceOfReason · 02-15-2015, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by willskywalker93

after using a Canon 1diin and 5dii for work, I think it's safe to say Pentax is doomed because their ergonomics and user interfaces don't absolutely suck. Because any high end dslr that can be turned on and used with only one hand is clearly garbage, which means I should hate my k3.

That is a different thread. Look for the longest thread in the K3 section.

willskywalker93 · 02-15-2015, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by VoiceOfReason

That is a different thread. Look for the longest thread in the K3 section.

The title if this thread is "Pentax Doomed™!!! Give your reasons why you think this is so.", so I did.

VoiceOfReason · 02-15-2015, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by willskywalker93

The title if this thread is "Pentax Doomed™!!! Give your reasons why you think this is so.", so I did.

Ohh but this one has a long way to go to get to "Why I wont buy a K3" greatness. Also, remember, Pentax is Doomed and all the people who will flee to the open arms of Canicony land will need to unload their gear, hopefully gear containing a 250-600 at a cheap price, so I stick with it being doomed and tell people not to look at my equipment list.

Speaking of the K3 thread, https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/172-pentax-k-3/239325-why-i-wont-buy-k3-w...re-thread.html

Venturi · 02-15-2015, 09:59 PM - **1 Like**

Pentax is doomed because of threads like this.

And by the way - every time you say "Pentax is Doomed!" God kills a kitten

ragmanjin · 02-15-2015, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by Venturi

Pentax is doomed because of threads like this.

And by the way - every time you say "Pentax is Doomed!" God kills a kitten

PENTAX IS DOOOOOMED!

...I'm a dog person.

Uncle Vova · 02-21-2015, 01:35 PM

Pentax (Ricoh-Imaging Co) is not doomed as a photographic brand. There are a lot of very satisfied users who adore their Pentax cameras and lenses. It's true.
But... :-)

Pentax is doomed as my personal supplier of DSLR cameras.
I owned 3 Pentax DSLR cameras since 2007: K10D, K-7, K-5. And all 3 of them were defective and have been spoiled very soon after purchase.
So, since 2007 till 2014 I was happy owner of the 100% defective cameras from the Pentax.
Look at my statistic:

1. Pentax K10D
Bought on March 2007
Total 510 shots - came unstuck mirror (manufacturing defect);

2. Pentax K-7
Bought on October 2010
Total 4700 shots - badly wrong tuned (or even did not tuned!) SAFOX, so the camera passed through the service center right away after unboxing, worked properly for some time and then finally broke down: suddenly reseted all factory and user settings and autofocus fully stops operating - defect of memory;

3. Pentax K-5
Bought on May 2012
Very good tuned camera, everything was great in it but... total 876 shots have been made until AF system surprised me with a great gift - a very
special defect: huge backfocus in vertical orientation of the camera (needs fine AF tuning from +7 то +10 depending of mounted lens) while sharp shooting without any AF correction with any of my lenses in horizontal camera orientation.

That's enough, I think. :-) Must I give Pentax my money for the fourth time to test my fate once more after 3 failures? :-) I think - no!

Pentax is doomed: no more money from me! :-)

Be fortunate with the Pentax, guys! Don't follow my failures! :-)

normhead · 02-21-2015, 03:35 PM

I don't know if I would have put up with as much as you have, good luck in the future.

Uncle Vova · 02-21-2015, 03:59 PM

normhead, thank you!
I'm just singing a song: no Pentax - no cry! :-)
Thanks to the Lord, I have no problem with all my Pentax film cameras.
As it seems to me, Asahi Optical Co made better Pentax cameras than Hoya and Ricoh.

**jatrax** · 02-21-2015, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by Uncle Vova

That's enough, I think. :-) Must I give Pentax my money for the fourth time to test my fate once more after 3 failures? :-) I think - no!

That is an astonishing string of bad luck. Not sure I would have kept going with Pentax. I've had to get a k-5 repaired (mirror issue), a DFA 100mm macro (aperture sticking), and an 18-135 (quit focusing) so I guess I have had a few issues as well but after repair the gear has worked fine so I have been satisfied.

Perhaps you have the same issue as my wife does with electronics. Computer, tablet, cell phone whatever, after a short time they begin to act erratically. I know it is her because we always buy the same at the same time. Same cell phone, same tablet and so on. But mine always works fine and her's develops "issues".

Uncle Vova · 02-22-2015, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by jatrax

Perhaps you have the same issue as my wife does with electronics. Computer, tablet, cell phone whatever, after a short time they begin to act erratically.

Thank you for that idea, but it is wrong. :-) Unlike your wife I am an electronic engineer (hope She is not), having huge experience working in device-assembling industry. I have a lot of different electronic devices at home and at my job - all of them are working properly for years and sometimes they need only a periodical standard service. The only devices which surprased me badly - the Pentax DSLRs. :-) Even Pentax lenses are very very good and work reliably and properly. But DSLRs have manufacture defects. Partially You are right - this is my bad fate (but concerning Pentax DSLR only!). :-)
Unfortunately.
P.S. And I am not alone:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/172-pentax-k-3/289309-my-body-hangs.html

r0ckstarr · 02-22-2015, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by jatrax

Perhaps you have the same issue as my wife does with electronics. Computer, tablet, cell phone whatever, after a short time they begin to act erratically. I know it is her because we always buy the same at the same time. Same cell phone, same tablet and so on. But mine always works fine and her's develops "issues".

Same thing right here. I know exactly what you're talking about. We buy the same thing at the same time as well. I always get "the good one".

jgnfld · 02-22-2015, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by r0ckstarr

Same thing right here. I know exactly what you're talking about. We buy the same thing at the same time as well. I always get "the good one".

Statistically unlikely after about 7 items.

02-21-2015, 01:35 PM	#99
Uncle Vova Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 29	Pentax (Ricoh-Imaging Co) is not doomed as a photographic brand. There are a lot of very satisfied users who adore their Pentax cameras and lenses. It's true. But... :-) Pentax is doomed as my personal supplier of DSLR cameras. I owned 3 Pentax DSLR cameras since 2007: K10D, K-7, K-5. And all 3 of them were defective and have been spoiled very soon after purchase. So, since 2007 till 2014 I was happy owner of the 100% defective cameras from the Pentax. Look at my statistic: 1. Pentax K10D Bought on March 2007 Total 510 shots - came unstuck mirror (manufacturing defect); 2. Pentax K-7 Bought on October 2010 Total 4700 shots - badly wrong tuned (or even did not tuned!) SAFOX, so the camera passed through the service center right away after unboxing, worked properly for some time and then finally broke down: suddenly reseted all factory and user settings and autofocus fully stops operating - defect of memory; 3. Pentax K-5 Bought on May 2012 Very good tuned camera, everything was great in it but... total 876 shots have been made until AF system surprised me with a great gift - a very special defect: huge backfocus in vertical orientation of the camera (needs fine AF tuning from +7 то +10 depending of mounted lens) while sharp shooting without any AF correction with any of my lenses in horizontal camera orientation. That's enough, I think. :-) Must I give Pentax my money for the fourth time to test my fate once more after 3 failures? :-) I think - no! Pentax is doomed: no more money from me! :-) Be fortunate with the Pentax, guys! Don't follow my failures! :-) Last edited by Uncle Vova; 02-21-2015 at 04:07 PM.

02-22-2015, 02:15 AM	#103
Uncle Vova Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 29	Originally posted by jatrax Perhaps you have the same issue as my wife does with electronics. Computer, tablet, cell phone whatever, after a short time they begin to act erratically. Thank you for that idea, but it is wrong. :-) Unlike your wife I am an electronic engineer (hope She is not), having huge experience working in device-assembling industry. I have a lot of different electronic devices at home and at my job - all of them are working properly for years and sometimes they need only a periodical standard service. The only devices which surprased me badly - the Pentax DSLRs. :-) Even Pentax lenses are very very good and work reliably and properly. But DSLRs have manufacture defects. Partially You are right - this is my bad fate (but concerning Pentax DSLR only!). :-) Unfortunately. P.S. And I am not alone: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/172-pentax-k-3/289309-my-body-hangs.html Last edited by Uncle Vova; 02-22-2015 at 05:15 AM.

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02-13-2015, 09:17 AM	#91
RodBoy New Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 21	Your original question was "why you think Pentax is doomed?" I didn't before reading thru this thread. I thought this forum was meant to support us users. Anyway, I don't think it is doomed. I researched the hell out of a good high end dslr before buying the K-3. I waded thru all the propaganda that spews out against Pentax and still bought the K-3. It's not a popularity contest for me. I like my decision. It will take some time to quiet all the doubters. All that is needed is good advertisement of which Pentax has none.

02-14-2015, 07:02 AM	#93
willskywalker93 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 407	after using a Canon 1diin and 5dii for work, I think it's safe to say Pentax is doomed because their ergonomics and user interfaces don't absolutely suck. Because any high end dslr that can be turned on and used with only one hand is clearly garbage, which means I should hate my k3.

02-15-2015, 09:30 AM	#94
VoiceOfReason Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mishawaka IN area Photos: Albums Posts: 6,124 Original Poster	Originally posted by willskywalker93 after using a Canon 1diin and 5dii for work, I think it's safe to say Pentax is doomed because their ergonomics and user interfaces don't absolutely suck. Because any high end dslr that can be turned on and used with only one hand is clearly garbage, which means I should hate my k3. That is a different thread. Look for the longest thread in the K3 section.

02-15-2015, 10:29 AM	#95
willskywalker93 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 407	Originally posted by VoiceOfReason That is a different thread. Look for the longest thread in the K3 section. The title if this thread is "Pentax Doomed™!!! Give your reasons why you think this is so.", so I did.

02-15-2015, 10:47 AM	#96
VoiceOfReason Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mishawaka IN area Photos: Albums Posts: 6,124 Original Poster	Originally posted by willskywalker93 The title if this thread is "Pentax Doomed™!!! Give your reasons why you think this is so.", so I did. Ohh but this one has a long way to go to get to "Why I wont buy a K3" greatness. Also, remember, Pentax is Doomed and all the people who will flee to the open arms of Canicony land will need to unload their gear, hopefully gear containing a 250-600 at a cheap price, so I stick with it being doomed and tell people not to look at my equipment list. Speaking of the K3 thread, https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/172-pentax-k-3/239325-why-i-wont-buy-k3-w...re-thread.html

02-15-2015, 09:59 PM - 1 Like	#97
Venturi Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,636	Pentax is doomed because of threads like this. And by the way - every time you say "Pentax is Doomed!" God kills a kitten

02-15-2015, 10:04 PM	#98
ragmanjin Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Great White North, eh Posts: 25	Originally posted by Venturi Pentax is doomed because of threads like this. And by the way - every time you say "Pentax is Doomed!" God kills a kitten PENTAX IS DOOOOOMED! ...I'm a dog person.

02-21-2015, 03:35 PM	#100
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	I don't know if I would have put up with as much as you have, good luck in the future.

02-21-2015, 03:59 PM	#101
Uncle Vova Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 29	normhead, thank you! I'm just singing a song: no Pentax - no cry! :-) Thanks to the Lord, I have no problem with all my Pentax film cameras. As it seems to me, Asahi Optical Co made better Pentax cameras than Hoya and Ricoh.

02-21-2015, 06:51 PM	#102
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by Uncle Vova That's enough, I think. :-) Must I give Pentax my money for the fourth time to test my fate once more after 3 failures? :-) I think - no! That is an astonishing string of bad luck. Not sure I would have kept going with Pentax. I've had to get a k-5 repaired (mirror issue), a DFA 100mm macro (aperture sticking), and an 18-135 (quit focusing) so I guess I have had a few issues as well but after repair the gear has worked fine so I have been satisfied. Perhaps you have the same issue as my wife does with electronics. Computer, tablet, cell phone whatever, after a short time they begin to act erratically. I know it is her because we always buy the same at the same time. Same cell phone, same tablet and so on. But mine always works fine and her's develops "issues".

02-22-2015, 05:43 AM	#104
r0ckstarr Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,507	Originally posted by jatrax Perhaps you have the same issue as my wife does with electronics. Computer, tablet, cell phone whatever, after a short time they begin to act erratically. I know it is her because we always buy the same at the same time. Same cell phone, same tablet and so on. But mine always works fine and her's develops "issues". Same thing right here. I know exactly what you're talking about. We buy the same thing at the same time as well. I always get "the good one".

02-22-2015, 07:29 AM	#105
jgnfld Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Avalon Peninsula, Newfoundland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,799	Originally posted by r0ckstarr Same thing right here. I know exactly what you're talking about. We buy the same thing at the same time as well. I always get "the good one". Statistically unlikely after about 7 items.