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03-08-2015, 01:19 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by jatrax Quote
KS-2 is the only Pentax DSLR with articulating screen.

Other than that a used k-5IIs is about as good as you can get.

If price is the biggest factor look for used k-x or k-r
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Another thing to bear in mind is that the K-5 II / K-5 IIs have a gapless screen which reduces reflection. Not as useful as an articulating screen, but it helps when viewing at an angle.

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I was wanting to stay around $200 for a body and $300 for a body and lens. Not wanting to sink a lot of money into it right now. Am thinking of selling off my 645 kit.

For the budget, and particularly as you're someone who clearly likes the look of film, the K10D might suit you well. The K10D can still produce excellent results at ISO100, with its 10MP CCD sensor delivering beautifully rich and saturated colours. Also, the whole experience of shooting with the K10D is a lot like shooting with slide film, as it has a similar dynamic range to slides and demands the same level of control over your exposures.

Downsides: there's no tilting screen, and the CCD sensor starts to get noisy above ISO400. So, if you're planning to do lots of low light shooting at very high ISO settings, a newer camera with a CMOS sensor is a better bet. But if you'll mostly be shooting at ISO100, the K10D can give you superb results.

Remember that you can use your 645 lenses on any Pentax DSLR with an adapter, so don't rush to sell them too quickly. And it's also worth looking through the various tribute threads to get an idea of the sort of results people are still getting with the older cameras.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/6-pentax-dslr-discussion/242738-k10d-club.html
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/6-pentax-dslr-discussion/276027-k20d-club.html
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/6-pentax-dslr-discussion/234878-appreciate-k100d.html
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QuoteOriginally posted by Dartmoor Dave Quote

Remember that you can use your 645 lenses on any Pentax DSLR with an adapter, so don't rush to sell them too quickly. And it's also worth looking through the various tribute threads to get an idea of the sort of results people are still getting with the older cameras.
However he indicated concern with vision as a reason to not use manual focus lenses. Sadly even autofocus 645 lenses are manual focus with the adapter.
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I didn't think about the K10 or K20. Some reviews had the K10D finicky to get the colors right, but the photos do,have that KODACHROME look to them.
I had no idea I could use 645 lenses on a DSLR. Has anyone done this and what were the results?
Thanks for the input everyone.

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KEH has some good deals on K 10and k20D's. Around 200 bucks.

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Found a K30 body on ebay that is up to $202. From a large pawn shop that has a generous return policy.
I'm intrigued by the K10D and it's color reputation.

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You need an adapter to mount the 645 lenses on a K-mount body. Further modern cameras don't come with a split prism screen for focusing, so focusing on a digital body using the viewfinder can be tricky. There are 3rd party split-prism screens available from KatzEye, focusingscreens.com and jinfinance; they might need shimming though. The K30 has focus peeking as a focusing aid in live view; the other models that you mention don't.

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One thing to be aware of is that models before the K-7 don't have AF assist in the body.

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It was posted today that Target is selling the K-50 w/ 18-55mm for $310 in-store. At least until they run out. With a check as the K-50 is very capable.
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Yeah, hit your local Target. I just picked one up from there even though I already have more than I need.
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OK, after much research and the realities of the lack of money due to daughters braces, old dishwasher dying, catalytic converter on car dying, etc. I have decided to go with a K-10, K-20, K100D Super or K200D. CCD sensor colors appeal to me and they are SDM autofocus drive.
Most are rated for 100,000 shutter releases. Of course, the fewer the better. At what number should I loose interest? Also, should I stay away from one that the seller cannot tell me the shuttercount?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Bustedup Quote
Most are rated for 100,000 shutter releases. Of course, the fewer the better. At what number should I loose interest? Also, should I stay away from one that the seller cannot tell me the shuttercount?
The fewer the better of course. But anything under 30,000 or so I would be fine with. And there is no excuse for anyone to not know the shutter count. Just tell them to use this: Check Shutter Count & Camera Manufacture Date Online - EXIF Reader
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Just a note that the K20D has a CMOS sensor, not a CCD. It's a little more feature packed than the K10D though.
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As others have mentioned, you can pick up an unused K-30 or K-50 at pretty much used prices right now.

If weight is a consideration have you considered the Q series? They pop up used on the marketplace forum from time to time. In fact there was one yesterday together with 3 lenses and other accessories for $300, but it may be gone now.

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Ok, the K20 has the CMOS. A bit of K series fatigue. Damn, they roll new cameras out every 3 months it seems. Dammit jgnfld, you just muddied the water again. Ok, let me investigate the Q series. Oh, my head is hurtin'!

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No Q series, sensor is too small. I do like larger prints most of the time for shots that I really like.
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K-30 or 50, Alan.
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If you are looking for a camera AND a lens, the K50 deals mentioned ($300 including a lens) can't be beat. The K50 is intermediate to the K5-K3 series, so you are looking at a modern camera at only marginally more than a K10d or K20 since it sounds like you might be buying an autofocus lens on top of the body anyway. If not, then you can probably buy whatever works for you.

I would say that looking at the 100 and 200 may limit you just a bit. The 200 was quite similar to the k10d with a few limitations (I think it might have only had one dial and a little less customizability). I would probably just focus on the K10d, K20 or even K30 or K50.

If you can get buy with the lenses you have for just a bit, I'd suggest getting a bit of a better body at first and then saving for a bit for a better lens. Buying a kit lens after coming from the 645 and higher quality prime lenses may find you quite disappointed if you try to use the 18-55. You might find your images better through manual focus than the 18-55. I don't know, though. And, in that case, I would probably try to get to the K30 and 50 so that you can have the focus peaking ability. You also gain the ability with the K30 or 50 to get a higher resolution image (more room for cropping) as well as the ability to shoot at pretty high ISO settings with little noise. My K10d was really only good up to ISO 400. I managed to get some good ISO 800 and even one or two ISO 1600 out of that camera, but those were exceptions rather than the norm. With a K5 (most Pentax dSLRs since the K5 have similar quality sensors, I think), I've been able to shoot out to ISO 12800 and get good shots (better than ISO 800 with my K10d).

None of the Pentax dSLR's come with a split-prism focusing screen, so focus peaking is one of the only ways you can get a decent manual focus short of installing an after market split prism yourself (not terribly cheap).
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