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03-11-2015, 01:04 AM   #31
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I have these cheap old manual lenses, in very good conditions, that I bougth on ebay, and that I use for landscapes

Auto Revuenon 28mm, 20, used
Vivitar 24mm 2.8, with A position, 50, new, it was an old stock
Sigma mini wide II, 28mm 2.8, with A position, used like new, 40

I would suggest lenses with A position, it's better for metering and aperture control; with Revuenon I had a lot of problems for metering over f8

Auto Revuenon is cheap but not a good lens... not sharp, flares
Vivitar, is a good lens, with a hood is sharp, not a razor but sharp
Sigma, it's the best, sharp, very good colors and contrast

sometimes for landscapes I use an old pentax smc A 35mm 2.8, a little more expensive (80), a great lens

I love old lenses, and prime lenses in general, I do not like zooms; with this kit I'm able to get very good shots, and I have more light available than with zooms, at a reasonable cost

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I can vouch for the Sigma Superwide. Nice lens. I have one in the MD mount that I will probably sell in a couple weeks to help fund the SMC K 24mm and 50mm lenses I just bought.
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You've got a nice selection of lenses to pick from already. I will second those mentioning Sigma 24mm or (probably little bit pricey ) SMC K 24mm f2.8. Another , much wider (and in my opinion much better for tripod / landscape shooter ) is famous Tokina 17mm f3.5 - it is superior to anything I know , including DA limited 15mm - but might be just at or around your maximum $200 - and probably very hard to find :P

Lastly, I would not go for an AF lens ( unless this was mandatory feature ) - it is simple over-hyped and rather useless for serious landscape shooting.
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I recently found a mint A24/2.8 for 100 euros. My best wide is the Sigma EX 15-30 that can be found every now and then for 200 or so.

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The Sigma 15-30 is rare but much superior to the 17-35s that are pretty common. Digitalis seems to enjoy his and that guy knows a thing or two about lenses...

Speaking of rare, a Tokina 17 3.5 showed up on EBay last night on a 3 day auction. Some love it dearly like manntax, and it is a good lens, but is it better than the Pentax 16-45? I don't know...
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QuoteOriginally posted by ChristianRock Quote
Speaking of rare, a Tokina 17 3.5 showed up on EBay last night on a 3 day auction. Some love it dearly like manntax, and it is a good lens, but is it better than the Pentax 16-45? I don't know...
I have no doubt about it - nothing comes close to my Tokina stopped down to 5.6 or 8 - here is one example, by no means a work of art - just a snapshot on my way to pick up my wife - web sized and below a 100% of crop , not even central, but furthest up edge of the frame. K-01 , Tokina 17m @f8, sparingly PPed

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Well, but would the 16-45 not be able to do that level of sharpness as well on F8, border to border? I think it would.

Not to say the Tokina isn't wonderful. I know it is, I looked hard for one a while ago when I had the means to buy it. Right now I don't, or I would join the hunt for this one that just showed up on Ebay. I tend to prefer primes anyway!
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I just picked up a Sigma 28mm Mini Wide and it is known to be fantastic, only cost me $30. It doesn't have SMC coating and can suffer from some flare, but for the price, it is a wonderful lens.

Besides this, a used 14mm F2.8 Samyang lens may do the trick.There are several lenses in the 24mm - 28mm range that can be had for under $200. Perhaps the best is the SMC Pentax 24mm. It is about $174.

If you can spring for a bit more money, Get the Limited 21mm or the 15mm, both are fantastic.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Blacknight659 Quote
I just picked up a Sigma 28mm Mini Wide and it is known to be fantastic, only cost me $30. It doesn't have SMC coating and can suffer from some flare, but for the price, it is a wonderful lens.

Besides this, a used 14mm F2.8 Samyang lens may do the trick.There are several lenses in the 24mm - 28mm range that can be had for under $200. Perhaps the best is the SMC Pentax 24mm. It is about $174.

If you can spring for a bit more money, Get the Limited 21mm or the 15mm, both are fantastic.
I have said it many times. I LOVE my DA 15 (SMC) Limited. Love love love!
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QuoteOriginally posted by UncleVanya Quote
I have said it many times. I LOVE my DA 15 (SMC) Limited. Love love love!
Like many of us, UV, lovable, but not cheap!
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Like many of us, UV, lovable, but not cheap!
Alas that is true.
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QuoteOriginally posted by clackers Quote
Like many of us, UV, lovable, but not cheap!
Speak for yourself. I'm pretty cheap.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Trigger Happy Quote
Speak for yourself. I'm pretty cheap.
And we're sure about the lovable?

Of course, it goes with being a Pentax owner!
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Well, but would the 16-45 not be able to do that level of sharpness as well on F8, border to border? I think it would.
No , it wouldn't - I am pretty certain that zoom will not touch my Tokina - maybe only where the strong backlight / flare is an issue - Tokina is known for being little bit prone to flare , but with good lens hood + careful framing one can really achieve a lot.

QuoteOriginally posted by ChristianRock Quote
Not to say the Tokina isn't wonderful. I know it is, I looked hard for one a while ago when I had the means to buy it. Right now I don't, or I would join the hunt for this one that just showed up on Ebay. I tend to prefer primes anyway!
I am actually surprised it hasn't been snatched yet - especially the price is actually less than I've paid for mine back in 2013. The only problem I can see with purchases from overseas of a lens like this is sample variation. I went through 3 copies of Tokina (when I was buying it, they were a bit more available ) in the range of 100 - 150. One came with scratches to the glass - and I mean not small nick, but long nasty scratches and nasty rear element.. Back it went. Another one was this one I have one - pristine , little wear to the body, more expensive but I was happy to have it. Year later I found another one , for 129, got it because I was curious about sample variation - indeed, it turned that new lens was less sharp , it was also pristine , no dust no haze no scratches, but the corner sharpness was not up to my original lens.. so I returned it because seller was accepting returns - it just costed me few to find out that my current Tokina is best out of 3 I handled. .. and the FOV on full frame is crazy ! will never part with mine

Below another shot of that church - heavy overcast and bad light, ISO was I think 400, below two 100% crops for the idea of sharpness the lens can give - shot on K-01

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As others have mentioned...

- Samyang/Rokinon makes a 14mm (not too cheap though)
- Old Simga 24mm superwide (I have the 28mm mini-wide II) - nice manual lens
- Pentax did / does have an old 24mm f/2.8 manual lens - I saw one for sale last week at the Pasadena camera show. I past it up for a Pentax M 50mm f/1.4

Also - since you did mention 'any f stop' - Pentax DA-L 18-55mm kit lens.
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