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05-15-2015, 07:50 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by Shanti Quote
the new 80-400 is 1340 g (2.95 lb),
DA*300 + tripod mt + lens hood is 1282g
K5II + Grip 1112g
so Pentax total is 2520 Nikon is 2680
The new Nikkor lenses are indeed MUCH lighter than they were before.
The new 300mm really has me intrigued...

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Are you kidding me ?

I have a K5 (same size as the K5Iis) and the battery grip + the DA*300/4 + HD 1.4X TC .... quite "light" and small actually.
Nikon's new 300mm prime is actually smaller and lighter than the DA* 300mm

AF-S NIKKOR 300mm F4E PF ED VR Lens - Nikkor F-Mount Lenses - Nikon Lens Database - Lens Database - NikonForums.com

But as for the 80-400mm vs 150-450mm, I'd expect them to be comparable. I might get a 80-400mm loaner just out of curiosity, once the 150-450mm arrives.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Adam Quote
Nikon's new 300mm prime is actually smaller and lighter than the DA* 300mm

AF-S NIKKOR 300mm F4E PF ED VR Lens - Nikkor F-Mount Lenses - Nikon Lens Database - Lens Database - NikonForums.com

But as for the 80-400mm vs 150-450mm, I'd expect them to be comparable. I might get a 80-400mm loaner just out of curiosity, once the 150-450mm arrives.
Based on the few reviews I've seen I don't think that new $3000 Nikkor F4 300mm is as sharp as the Da*300 and it suffers from glow artifacts due to the fresnel element as well. Also, Nikon only applies their "nano" coating to one surface so it's, pretty much, just an advertising feature. I shot a few things with my D810 and 70-200 VRII today but had to "try again" with my K-5 and DA*200 in order to get what I wanted.

From my experience all DA* lenses show better colour and contrast than Nikon lenses, despite what Dx0 Mark reviews say.
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forgot to say I had battery grip on,and with the da 300 +tc +tripod mt it was lighter or the same..maybe it was the balance on Nikon made it feel that way? was not about price as D4 is way too much $$..just ease of handling
What? There's no battery grip for a Nikon so you could do an apples to apples comparison? I guess the comparison for you is a good one. I carry extra batteries instead of a battery grip... so I would find the Nikon both heavier and bigger. And the lens to compare on a Nikon FF 80-400 to an APS-c pentax would be the DA*60-250, to match the enlargement of the 150-450 on a Nikon (or any) FFwould be almost 700mm. I guess when you did your comparison, you didn't notice the difference in subject size.

So exactly what did you compare? Weight and "handling." without respect of the 1.5 crop factor, or the ability of the Pentax system to lose the weight of the battery grip? Seriously?

I take it you are one of those who has big hands and has to have the battery grip for handling. It's the only way your analysis makes even a bit of sense.

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What? There's no battery grip for a Nikon so you could do an apples to apples comparison? I guess the comparison for you is a good one. I carry extra batteries instead of a battery grip... so I would find the Nikon both heavier and bigger. And the lens to compare on a Nikon FF 80-400 to an APS-c pentax would be the DA*60-250, to match the enlargement of the 150-450 on a Nikon (or any) FFwould be almost 700mm. I guess when you did your comparison, you didn't notice the difference in subject size.

So exactly what did you compare? Weight and "handling." without respect of the 1.5 crop factor, or the ability of the Pentax system to lose the weight of the battery grip? Seriously?

I take it you are one of those who has big hands and has to have the battery grip for handling. It's the only way your analysis makes even a bit of sense.
quite simply I was saying the Nikon with a 400mm reach was the same weight as my Pentax with 300mm, and I thought an extra kg for the same FL if I get the 150-450 mmmmm....and I need the grip as have large hands
of course the Pentax feels more solid(can use as hammer if needed) but was surprised how light the Nikon gear was--not often I even see a D4 much less hold one
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