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07-17-2015, 05:03 PM   #1
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Vintage Lens compatability?

In the classified ads of yesterday’s paper I notice a couple of package deals on used cameras with lenses and accessories.

Having fooled around with vintage lenses on my K-100D and just ordered a K-50 body, I know how to make the heritage glass work, and if I can use any of the glass that goes with these deals it would be worth the price even if I junk the old film eater box.

The first one is for a 1970 RICOH TLS 401.

Lenses: Ricinon f. 4 55mm, Vivitar Zoom 85 - 205 3.8m Soligar tele auto 3.5 135mmm Soligar WA 2.8 28mm along with a magnifier, ext. tubes etc..

If these lenses will work or adapt to the K mount the price is certainly right.

Then there is the PENTAX A3000 35-70 and 70-210 lenses (doesn’t say brand) flash, 2X tele converter, tripod & accessories for $75.

What say ye?

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They will work but get a Pentax Brand adaptor. Is that a Rikenon f1.4, if so the sale is worth it.
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the last two SMC A lenses I bought were in a lot with a Super Program film camera, which is now for sale... I see many package deals like this on eBay, but you also have to be picky about what lenses you are wanting...
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They will work but get a Pentax Brand adaptor. Is that a Rikenon f1.4, if so the sale is worth it.
The ad said f .4 55mm, so it could be a misprint dropping the "1" - which happens a lot in this publication.

Are those screw mount lenses?

If so I already have two adapters, one of which is a genuine PENTAX.

I removed the little spring catch from the adapter to enable me to remove lens, adapter and all rather than have to unscrew the lens and pry the catch open with a thin strip of credit card or small screw driver.



Are any of the other lenses I mentioned K Mount or are they all screw mounts?
If it is good quality glass at a decent price I can live with the adapters and run manual exposure settings and focus - like the old days.

One thing I miss from the K-1000 is the viewfinder focus glass; with my diminishing eyesight it's hard to get good focus through vintage glass without the little flashing red focus indicators.

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If it's the Rikenon 55mm 1.4 that's a great lens. It's screw mount and you have the adapter so you should be all set. The others with the Ricoh would be fun to try out. Actually the TLS 401 is an interesting camera with the switchable viewfinder. The finder is pretty dim though. As for the newer lenses on the A3000 I can't say much. I have the Pentax F 35-70 and Takumar F 70-210 and I think they are great lenses with a lot of character. They are both K-mount.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Uncle Jaque Quote
The first one is for a 1970 RICOH TLS 401.

Lenses: Ricinon f. 4 55mm, Vivitar Zoom 85 - 205 3.8m Soligar tele auto 3.5 135mmm Soligar WA 2.8 28mm along with a magnifier, ext. tubes etc..
You did not say what the asking price is for this kit. Here is my breakdown:

TLS 401 w/Auto-Rikenon 55/1.4, no more than $55 USD with the low being about $30 USDfor the pair. This is sort of a mixed deal and depend heavily on the condition of the body. The lens is generally worth less than $40 USD with the body as a giveaway. OTOH, the body, if in unusually excellent condition is of interest to collectors.

The value of the other lenses and accessories is on the low end. I would suggest $45 or less for the lens lot by itself if in decent condition. For the camera and all lenses, about $75 USD.

FWIW, I own the Auto-Rikenon 55/1.4 and while it has its strengths (fast, nice build, relatively sharp), it also is prone to "hot spot" reflection off the rear element. I would rate it a notch below the ST 50/1.4 and equivalent to f/1.4 Japanese lenses of similar vintage (late 1960s) and construction from Mamiya/Sekor, Yashica, and Fuji. To be honest, I prefer my Auto-Rikenon 50/1.7.

Reviews of the Auto-Rikenon 55/1.4 are split between two sections of this site*:
Ricoh Auto Rikenon 55mm F1.4 Lens Reviews - Ricoh Lenses - Pentax Lens Review Database

Auto Sears 55mm F1.4 Lens Reviews - Miscellaneous Lenses - Pentax Lens Review Database
Good luck on your purchase decision!


Steve

* My review of the 55/1.4 seems to have disappeared

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Rikenon on e-slay...

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They will work but get a Pentax Brand adaptor. Is that a Rikenon f1.4, if so the sale is worth it.
Just looked it up on Fleabay, and they are going from between $30 and $40.

Vtg Ricoh Rikenon 50mm 1 2 Prime Lens 50mm F 2 Pentax K Mount Ricoh Ships Free | eBay

They appear to be M-42 mounts But one of them seems to come with the adapter (?)

Wants $150 for the whole kit; I might offer him $100.

Worth it?

The A-3000 kit as asking $75 which does not seem unreasonable for a couple of decent lenses... assuming that they are decent build and condition.
I might offer him $50 if they are genuine Pentax lenses, especially if they are K-mount.

What I'd really like is a good zoom that runs out to 400mm for wildlife work - I don't think I'm going to find one for a price I want to shell out right away though.
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The Ricoh TLS 401 is a m42 mount camera, and the Auto Rekinon 55mm f1.4 is a m42 mount lens which you will need a m42-to-kmount adapter to use it on a pentax dslr.

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Vivitar 85-205mm

Yow; if you want to run vintage glass look at the deals!

Here's another one the TLS 401 guy has:

Vivitar 85 205mm F 3 8 Auto Tele Zoom Lens for Pentax M42 Screw Mount Both Caps | eBay

All of $25 bucks!

Nice looking lens, too!
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I have a Sears TLS, which is a re-badge Ricoh Singlex TLS which came out in '67, the 401 (which came out in 1970) is it's successor.
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Soligar 28mm WA going for around $30: Soligor 28mm F2 8 Pentax K Mount Manual Wide Angle Lens Japan | eBay
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Find out if the Pentax lenses are F series auto focus or A series or m series. The first deal $100 is likely high unless the stuff is pristine.
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Series?

I'm not familiar with the series designations; Is it marked on the lens, and if so where?

Which is more or less desirable / valuable?

I'm assuming that the cameras they are offering are essentially worthless.

Unless it's a collectable like a Hasseblad or a Leica the old film eaters are dumpers, I guess - as much as I liked my K-1000.
I'm only interested in salvagable lenses - and although I can use screw mounts would rather have the K-mounts.
Might give the local guy a call tomorrow and see if he's still got the stuff and see what it is if so.

Is the A3000 a bayonet / K mount system?
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Does the soligor tell auto 135 have an auto manual switch?

There was a short production of M42 lenses concurrent with the auto takumars, where there is no switch for auto and manual, and as a result the aperture control pin cannot be disabled, it needs to be depressed to stop the lens down. Even current zenitar lenses are like this.

There are two solutions, either a specialized M42 mount with a lip on the inside to depress the pin, or disassembly of the lens and putting a sleeve about 3mm long over the aperture pin, just behind the lens mount.
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A3000 is not autofocus. Lenses are likely "A" series which means they can be used with camera control over aperture which allows simpler metering options and less fuss.

Read about the camera here:Pentax A3 / A3000 - Pentax Manual Focus Film SLRs - Pentax Camera Reviews and Specifications

Read evolution of the k mount: Pentax Technology

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