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08-22-2015, 10:09 AM   #1
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I am planning up upgrading from my K20D in the next couple of weeks, and am feeling somewhat swamped with my options. I have a budget of around 500 or so, I don't6 know if i should stick with pentax, or go with a brand like cannon or nikon due to the better availability of lenses and such. What are peoples thoughts?

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It could depend on what lenses you currently have for the K20D? One of the big advantages of Pentax for me is the ability to use old lenses that can be acquired cheaply. Some of my best shots are with older manual focus primes.
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You mention "better availability of lenses and such"... What are your requirements with respect to lenses - is there anything in particular you're missing? Personally, I've found more than enough variety and availability of lenses, new and used, to suit me, and there's lots of older glass around for very little money...
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I've just found pretty much that available of pentax lenses and bits in shops to be limited and ordering off the net can be a pain. I dunno, I think I am feeling a bit swamped for choice.

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Since you just mentioned that you are budget limited, I would stick with Pentax.
1) What lenses do you currently have
2) Canikon have more lens availability... but to the average photographer, and i'm going to take it you're not a pro because you still have your k-20d (although you could be!), no one needs so many lenses. Pentax has like 40, Canon has 80 (according to B&H) not including third party lenses. But many of those Canon lenses are either a difference of VR verson non VR, U.S. warranty vs. Greymarket, or in some cases the 2.8 version instead of the 4 version. The 70-200 comes in 2.8, 2.8VR, 4, 4VR... really?
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QuoteOriginally posted by GrimWolf Quote
I've just found pretty much that available of pentax lenses and bits in shops to be limited and ordering off the net can be a pain. I dunno, I think I am feeling a bit swamped for choice.
Ah, I see...

The thing is, if you're buying from the large, non-specialist high street retailers, you will - as you're undoubtedly aware - pay an awful lot more for your equipment (not always the case, of course, but usually). I've bought cameras and lenses from a number of sources over the years - large specialist retailers (SRS, Wex, etc.), online retailers such as Amazon, small family-owned shops (for negotiable used deals), and of course eBay. I almost always wait for heavily discounted deals before buying anything, and it makes a *huge* difference. There is no way I could have justified the lens purchases I've made if I'd paid high street retail prices.

If your main criterion for brand choice is availability of lenses and dedicated accessories from the high street, you probably will be happier with Nikon, Canon or possibly Olympus. But I'm not sure that's a great basis for your decision... Ultimately, though, you need to establish your priorities and weigh up how each of the brands measures up.
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My current lenses are my 18-55II kit lens, and a tamron 70-300 A17 telephoto (that has a crack on an internal bit of plastic, giving it a twist to the left). Looking at pentax, i am thinking either K50 with kit lens around 379 or if i can squeeze an extra 100 into my budget, a K3 (body only). K-s1 seems ok, but not weather sealed.

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QuoteOriginally posted by GrimWolf Quote
My current lenses are my 18-55II kit lens, and a tamron 70-300 A17 telephoto (that has a crack on an internal bit of plastic, giving it a twist to the left). Looking at pentax, i am thinking either K50 with kit lens around 379 or if i can squeeze an extra 100 into my budget, a K3 (body only). K-s1 seems ok, but not weather sealed.
I've just noticed that you're in Hertfordshire... which means, you can't be too far from SRS Microsystems. Whilst not always the cheapest, they're usually pretty competitive on price, they have a very wide selection of Pentax and Pentax-compatible equipment (new and used), and they're a Pentax Pro Dealer - so they offer 2 years warranty as standard. I've had very good service from them in the past...

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The K-3 would be a very worthwhile upgrade. Night and day compared to the K20D

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If you're super tight on budget, i'd get the k-50, great camera (i'm only slightly biased because i have a k-30 ), and if it comes with the kit lens, since you've already got one, you could sell one of them for another 50, get a M50 1.7 for that, or a da 35 2.8 for a bit more.
Considering your budget, i wouldn't be switching to canikon, olympus maybe, but not canikon, because:
1) canon doesn't have many legacy lenses to get for a cheaper price
2) nikon has legacy lenses, but you can't get AF on their legacy screwdrive lenses because cheaper bodies don't have the screwdrive motor.
If you've got another 1,000 lying around for lenses - go canikon.

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The K-3 would be a very worthwhile upgrade.
True, the k-3 would be a huge upgrade... but then some say your lenses are more important than the body.
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I think it's srs microsystems that I got my Tamron from, it's still within warranty so after my holiday I'm going to send it back to them and see what their engineers can do with the problems I've got with it.

What is the s1 like, and how important is the weather sealing?
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For many I suspect WR is one of those things we like to have, a comforter, but which is rarely ever actually needed. It depends on your particular outdoor pursuits. If you're into all -weather hiking and want to take the DSLR then it will be very useful and get you more shots. Otherwise, for most types of photography you can just put it away in the bag when things turn sour!

That said, even on fine days you might want to shoot waterfalls or waves breaking .....

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QuoteOriginally posted by GrimWolf Quote
What is the s1 like, and how important is the weather sealing?
Weather *resistance* is just that - it makes the camera more resistant to inclement weather. If you want to take your camera out in the rain or snow, on hot humid days, near fierce waterfalls, on wind-swept beaches etc., then it can be a very useful feature to have. But even a weather-resistant camera isn't water-proof or dust-proof... it's only resistant.
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I'm not sure what lenses you'd gain from canikon that you can't get here. I mean unless you're after some particularly large and fast zooms that cost an arm and a leg and the kidneys of all your children.

I mean your entire budget would be eaten up by even an older mid range model like the canon 60D or Nikon 7000/7100 anyways...
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I'm not sure what lenses you'd gain from canikon that you can't get here. I mean unless you're after some particularly large and fast zooms that cost an arm and a leg and the kidneys of all your children.
Kidneys, you say? Hmmm... <planning next lens purchase>
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