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10-08-2015, 11:12 AM   #1
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K 50 vs K S1 vs k S2

My ist DS is dying so its time to say goodbye. Budget $500 or less and going for new instead of used. K50 Ks1 Ks2 bodies fall in this range.

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10-08-2015, 11:18 AM   #2
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I just got a K-S2 as a walkaround I can just keep in my laptop bag and it's been pretty nice. I got an eBay gray market body for $400.

If you like a compact body and flip screen the K-S2 might suit you. Dual control wheels, WR, and stuff like interval shooting are great features for a mid range body.

The K-50 can be had cheaper is is probably the best value of these three. I think it has all those features except the flip screen.

The K-S1 is smaller than the S2 and I think it lacks WR and has no flip screen. If ultimate smallness is important this is the one to get.
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K3 if you wait might be at that price new at some point. Currently if you buy the special for $649 with flash and lens you may be able to sell those off and get it down a bit closer to budget. The kit Includes Free Pentax 50mm F/1.8 & Pentax AF-200FG ($178.95 net retail value)

The KS1 is supposedly on sale for $289 - but it shows as $346 for me.

The K50 for $294.95

The KS2 for $489.70

The KS series cameras lack the ability to use the on board flash as a wireless optical controller or master unit to trigger a remote P-TTL flash but simple wireless triggers can provide similar functionality albeit not P-TTL generally. The buffer space on the KS2 isn't upgraded enough to allow it to match the K50 in terms of buffering continuous shooting. The KS1 lacks weather sealing. The KS2 as mentioned above is equipped with a tilting screen which makes it the only Pentax DSLR with that feature.

Since I have an AF540FGZ and I like using it off camera I bought the K3 rather than the KS2 when I had the opportunity to buy one or the other. The current camera you have is closest in size to the KS1 as I recall. The K50 is not large nor is the KS2 or even the K3 but the K3 is the largest of those and considerably larger and heavier than the KS1.
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I'd go KS-2. Latest and greatest, and fits your budget, unless of course you want/need the lower price of the other two, in which case the budget may indeed not be $500.

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So far as IQ goes, any of them will be a huge step up in terms of resolution and low-light performance compared the 6MP CCD in the DS. Either sensor will probably have less noise at ISO 3200 than the 6MP at ISO 800. In good light, the AA-less 20MP of the K-S1/2 gives a little more detail than the 16MP in the K-50. In poor light, the 20MP has a little more noise, but it is of the luminance variety (as opposed to false color), and easy to clean up in post-processing without loss of detail. Some have described the 20MP's noise as "film like", and considered it a plus.
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Of the three I'd do K-S2 if you needed WR, other than that the K-S1. I just bought a pair of them for gifts with 18-55 kit lenses and I had to play around with one. While it certainly isn't a K3 it actually makes decent pics and the menu isn't as bad as some would have you believe. It is a great entry level camera to me, and feels better in the hand than the K50 does.
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Ks1 don't have viewfinder and front/back e-dials.
Ks2 have them. Small camera.
K50 is fast!!!
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QuoteOriginally posted by kjfishman Quote
My ist DS is dying so its time to say goodbye. Budget $500 or less and going for new instead of used. K50 Ks1 Ks2 bodies fall in this range.

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I would also recommend the K-S2, unless you have large hands, in which case you'd enjoy the ergonomics of the K-50 more. The K-S2 is more technologically advanced; while it's lost features like cable release and wireless flash, it has wi-fi, the AA filter simulator, manual flash power control, and other things which you'll read about below.

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I would be concerned about the K-50's aperture arm/motor assembly failing in the long run. This is a known issue in the K-30. If I were you I would spend the extra $$ if you have it and go with the K-S2.
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QuoteOriginally posted by KDD Quote
Ks1 don't have viewfinder
I think you may be confusing the K-01. K-S1 is a DSLR with OVF.
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Yeah, it definitely has an OVF
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QuoteOriginally posted by 6BQ5 Quote
I would be concerned about the K-50's aperture arm/motor assembly failing in the long run. This is a known issue in the K-30.
Do we have any statistics on the frequency of such failures?

BTW: "The Pentax K-S1 shares the majority of its hardware with the K-50"

https://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-s1-review/specifications.html

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QuoteOriginally posted by lytrytyr Quote
Do we have any statistics on the frequency of such failures?

BTW: "The Pentax K-S1 shares the majority of its hardware with the K-50"

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Mine started acting up and there are many other owner's stories here. Search for threads where people ask about mysteriously dark images.

If the K-S1 has the same mechanics as the K-50/30 then I would avoid that model as well. Maybe the specific part has been updated over time and the vendor to Ricoh is now providing more reliable performance. I wouldn't chance it though.
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QuoteOriginally posted by 6BQ5 Quote
I would be concerned about the K-50's aperture arm/motor assembly failing in the long run. This is a known issue in the K-30. If I were you I would spend the extra $$ if you have it and go with the K-S2.
QuoteOriginally posted by lytrytyr Quote
Do we have any statistics on the frequency of such failures?

BTW: "The Pentax K-S1 shares the majority of its hardware with the K-50"

Pentax K-S1 Review - Specifications | PentaxForums.com Reviews
My guess is since the KS2 and KS1 share the same shutter as the K50 there is a good chance they have the same aperture control mechanisms too. Out of 3 different K30's I've owned all had over 6000 actuations and never had the aperture problem. One had a pop up flash die and was exchanged though. I think the problem could be overblown since out of thousands of K30's and K50's produced the only ones that had the failure would definitely post it here and I've only seen less than a dozen post about it. You can never be entirely sure any electronic will be 100% reliable. That is why the saying goes "two is one and one is none." If you shoot serious and important events it is a no brainer to have a back up camera!
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QuoteOriginally posted by lytrytyr Quote
Do we have any statistics on the frequency of such failures?

BTW: "The Pentax K-S1 shares the majority of its hardware with the K-50"

Pentax K-S1 Review - Specifications | PentaxForums.com Reviews
Different sensor and no AA filer. Better IQ than K50. In reality the K50 and KS2 are much more similar to one another.
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