what second body to choose

grispie · 11-10-2015, 03:06 AM

need some real life advice here.

I need a 2nd body for using my m lenses. With only one body i always forget to shift from av or whatever mode to M mode...
+ it is simply nice to go out with two bodies to reduce lens changing.

I have three now:
K3
K20d
K01

I just sold the K01. Although nice, i can't do without a viewfinder & a decent handgrip.

And k20d, although i like it a lot & i'll keep it for it's long battery life & sturdiness, i noticed i'm getting frustrated using it next to the K3. Especially when evening falls & light becomes low but gentle & nice.

I went out with a k r the other day & i really liked it (the green button is really in a nice place as opposed to the K3..) & they can be had quite cheap + i found it's iso performance impressive.
But maybe another older body would be even better?? for whatever reason that comes to mind..

Sandy Hancock · 11-10-2015, 03:11 AM

K-S2 gives you everything or better than the K-01 did, plus WR, an articulated LCD and WiFi among other features. Even the K-S1 if you want something even more compact.

grispie · 11-10-2015, 03:27 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

K-S2 gives you everything or better than the K-01 did

yes ok, but i want to stay on the second hand options just for the low price...
I threw the k r out there as an example. it can be had for quite a steal.

Some 'new' combo's with the wr 18 135 are interesting (as i want to add a wr lens to my prime collection) but i just decided i want a 16-85..
and that combo seems only available with another K3 (which would be nice ofcourse :-) .

**ismaelg** · 11-10-2015, 04:14 AM

Hi,

I think a K5 may be right for this.
I use my K20 as all weather/daylight backup and K-x as low light backup. A K5 would combine both strengths into one.
I still occasionally use my K100DS with m lenses but for lightbox studio shots.

Thanks,

Sandy Hancock · 11-10-2015, 04:28 AM

Originally posted by grispie

yes ok, but i want to stay on the second hand options just for the low price...

Then you should have kept your K-01

Part of me wishes I'd kept mine....

Steve.Ledger · 11-10-2015, 04:55 AM - **1 Like**

K-50 is going for a song at B&H

pathdoc · 11-10-2015, 05:29 AM

Something with switch and menu layouts as close to your primary body as possible.

If going for an older body, don't go so far back you lose SDM/DC capability. I have a feeling we'll be needing that a lot more in the future.

grispie · 11-10-2015, 05:50 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Then you should have kept your K-01

no i shouldn't. Like i said, i need viewfinder and handgrip.
K01 was a nice camera but i didn't use it except for video when i had nothing else for video.

Originally posted by Steve.Ledger

K-50 is going for a song at B&H

K50, where i live, it is not going for a song. reasonably priced yes.
But for the money, i can also get a very nice 2ndhand K5.
And for 60% of that price, i can get a 2ndhand k30
And for 40% of that price a kr

The thing i really liked on the kr in use with my m lenses, was the placement of the green button.
I looked at pictures on the net & its in the same place for kr, k30, k50.

Maybe k30 is a good middle option? Believe it has focus peaking as well.
And two dials, and WR as opposed to kr.

Originally posted by pathdoc

Something with switch and menu layouts as close to your primary body as possible.

exactly,
I noticed this already when using the k20 next to my k3..

**klh** · 11-10-2015, 05:56 AM - **1 Like**

You should get a second K-3. Same layout, no confusion.

**Kerrowdown** · 11-10-2015, 06:07 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by grispie

I noticed I'm getting frustrated using it next to the K3

I think you've already answered your own question here.

I always run the same make and bodies in pairs so there's no thought process involved in operation of settings etc.

**UncleVanya** · 11-10-2015, 06:41 AM

Do you want to use green button or optical preview method for your m lens metering? Many non-pro bodies only support green button (k50).

grispie · 11-10-2015, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

Do you want to use green button or optical preview method for your m lens metering?

I'm fine with just the green button.

Originally posted by klh

You should get a second K-3. Same layout, no confusion.

Originally posted by Kerrowdown

I think you've already answered your own question here

I hear you :-)
the FF looks to have a similar layout to K3 ;-)
not sure this is the answer i was looking for though..

**UncleVanya** · 11-10-2015, 06:58 AM

Ks-1 is cheap. I think I saw that Samys had it for 199 again if you used a 100 rebate. Unclear if they ship to you since I'm on mobile and can't see your location right now.

**Kerrowdown** · 11-10-2015, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by grispie

not sure this is the answer i was looking for though..

It was really... you just needed our blessing get a couple of FFs.

normhead · 11-10-2015, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by grispie

And k20d, although i like it a lot & i'll keep it for it's long battery life & sturdiness, i noticed i'm getting frustrated using it next to the K3.

With the same two cameras I get the same thing now. When I take out the K20D it seems excruciatingly slow even in good light. If I were buying today, I'd probably go for the K-S2. I seriously want that tilting screen for macro.

I still have my K-01, and I'll probably never get rid of it, because I like how it fits in my camera bag with the 40XS on it. It's the secodbcamera I don't want to use often, but it's way better than nothing if my first camera fails.

11-10-2015, 03:06 AM	#1
grispie Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,199	what second body to choose need some real life advice here. I need a 2nd body for using my m lenses. With only one body i always forget to shift from av or whatever mode to M mode... + it is simply nice to go out with two bodies to reduce lens changing. I have three now: K3 K20d K01 I just sold the K01. Although nice, i can't do without a viewfinder & a decent handgrip. And k20d, although i like it a lot & i'll keep it for it's long battery life & sturdiness, i noticed i'm getting frustrated using it next to the K3. Especially when evening falls & light becomes low but gentle & nice. I went out with a k r the other day & i really liked it (the green button is really in a nice place as opposed to the K3..) & they can be had quite cheap + i found it's iso performance impressive. But maybe another older body would be even better?? for whatever reason that comes to mind..

11-10-2015, 06:07 AM - 1 Like	#10
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,835	Originally posted by grispie I noticed I'm getting frustrated using it next to the K3 I think you've already answered your own question here. I always run the same make and bodies in pairs so there's no thought process involved in operation of settings etc. Last edited by Kerrowdown; 11-10-2015 at 06:57 AM.

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11-10-2015, 03:11 AM	#2
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	K-S2 gives you everything or better than the K-01 did, plus WR, an articulated LCD and WiFi among other features. Even the K-S1 if you want something even more compact.

11-10-2015, 03:27 AM	#3
grispie Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,199 Original Poster	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock K-S2 gives you everything or better than the K-01 did yes ok, but i want to stay on the second hand options just for the low price... I threw the k r out there as an example. it can be had for quite a steal. Some 'new' combo's with the wr 18 135 are interesting (as i want to add a wr lens to my prime collection) but i just decided i want a 16-85.. and that combo seems only available with another K3 (which would be nice ofcourse :-) .

11-10-2015, 04:14 AM	#4
ismaelg Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,683	Hi, I think a K5 may be right for this. I use my K20 as all weather/daylight backup and K-x as low light backup. A K5 would combine both strengths into one. I still occasionally use my K100DS with m lenses but for lightbox studio shots. Thanks,

11-10-2015, 04:28 AM	#5
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	Originally posted by grispie yes ok, but i want to stay on the second hand options just for the low price... Then you should have kept your K-01 Part of me wishes I'd kept mine....

11-10-2015, 04:55 AM - 1 Like	#6
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	K-50 is going for a song at B&H

11-10-2015, 05:29 AM	#7
pathdoc Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,381	Something with switch and menu layouts as close to your primary body as possible. If going for an older body, don't go so far back you lose SDM/DC capability. I have a feeling we'll be needing that a lot more in the future.

11-10-2015, 05:50 AM	#8
grispie Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,199 Original Poster	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Then you should have kept your K-01 no i shouldn't. Like i said, i need viewfinder and handgrip. K01 was a nice camera but i didn't use it except for video when i had nothing else for video. Originally posted by Steve.Ledger K-50 is going for a song at B&H K50, where i live, it is not going for a song. reasonably priced yes. But for the money, i can also get a very nice 2ndhand K5. And for 60% of that price, i can get a 2ndhand k30 And for 40% of that price a kr The thing i really liked on the kr in use with my m lenses, was the placement of the green button. I looked at pictures on the net & its in the same place for kr, k30, k50. Maybe k30 is a good middle option? Believe it has focus peaking as well. And two dials, and WR as opposed to kr. Originally posted by pathdoc Something with switch and menu layouts as close to your primary body as possible. exactly, I noticed this already when using the k20 next to my k3..

11-10-2015, 05:56 AM - 1 Like	#9
klh Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2009 Location: West Lafayette, Indiana, USA Posts: 827	You should get a second K-3. Same layout, no confusion.

11-10-2015, 06:41 AM	#11
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,445	Do you want to use green button or optical preview method for your m lens metering? Many non-pro bodies only support green button (k50).

11-10-2015, 06:50 AM	#12
grispie Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,199 Original Poster	Originally posted by UncleVanya Do you want to use green button or optical preview method for your m lens metering? I'm fine with just the green button. Originally posted by klh You should get a second K-3. Same layout, no confusion. Originally posted by Kerrowdown I think you've already answered your own question here I hear you :-) the FF looks to have a similar layout to K3 ;-) not sure this is the answer i was looking for though..

11-10-2015, 06:58 AM	#13
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,445	Ks-1 is cheap. I think I saw that Samys had it for 199 again if you used a 100 rebate. Unclear if they ship to you since I'm on mobile and can't see your location right now.

11-10-2015, 06:58 AM	#14
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,835	Originally posted by grispie not sure this is the answer i was looking for though.. It was really... you just needed our blessing get a couple of FFs.

11-10-2015, 07:00 AM	#15
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by grispie And k20d, although i like it a lot & i'll keep it for it's long battery life & sturdiness, i noticed i'm getting frustrated using it next to the K3. With the same two cameras I get the same thing now. When I take out the K20D it seems excruciatingly slow even in good light. If I were buying today, I'd probably go for the K-S2. I seriously want that tilting screen for macro. I still have my K-01, and I'll probably never get rid of it, because I like how it fits in my camera bag with the 40XS on it. It's the secodbcamera I don't want to use often, but it's way better than nothing if my first camera fails.