Interesting Comparison: Canon 1Ds Mkll vs Pentax K20D

benjikan · 06-26-2008, 01:40 AM

This is dedicated to my dear friend RH.

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Both shot at 100 iso and compressed 5/12 in PS3 to get in under the 1 mega maximum. Both using flash which enhances the contrast. Both shot at optimum aperture...etc etc etc.

Last edited by benjikan; 06-26-2008 at 02:31 AM.

RiceHigh · 06-26-2008, 02:22 AM

There is no text!

benjikan · 06-26-2008, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

There is no text!

RH...What? I used the F---ING camera for "WORK, JOBS, ASSIGNMENTS, EXPERIENCE and MONEY!" That is how I compared them.

GeeeeZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Ben

christinelandon · 06-26-2008, 02:41 AM

RH, I don't get you sometimes. Benji has posted two photos. I used my two eyeballs to compare the two photos. No text required. (No comparison, either; guess which one won my comparison.)

RiceHigh · 06-26-2008, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by benjikan

RH...What? I used the F---ING camera for "WORK, JOBS, ASSIGNMENTS, EXPERIENCE and MONEY!" That is how I compared them.

GeeeeZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Ben

No no text!

RiceHigh · 06-26-2008, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by christinelandon

RH, I don't get you sometimes. Benji has posted two photos. I used my two eyeballs to compare the two photos. No text required. (No comparison, either; guess which one won my comparison.)

But the two pictures are very different. How can you "use two eyeballs" to compare an apple to orange? May I guess? Left eye for the Canon pic and the right eyeball for the Pentax pic?

benjikan · 06-26-2008, 02:45 AM

Use your eyes RH. You have eyes don't you.

Ben

Last edited by benjikan; 07-01-2008 at 01:20 AM.

RiceHigh · 06-26-2008, 02:46 AM

Originally posted by benjikan

Use you eyes RH. You have eyes don't you.

Ben

No no text.

axl · 06-26-2008, 02:51 AM

Originally posted by benjikan

Use you eyes RH. You have eyes don't you.

Ben

I doubt he has...
And if he does in deed they are made of glass

ftpaddict · 06-26-2008, 02:54 AM

Your requests are appalling, RH. Pictures speak a thousand words. WHAT DO YOU NEED TEXT FOR?

Here, I'll include some text for you:
The Pentax K20D has greater image quality than a Canon 1Ds Mkll which is many times more expensive.

benjikan · 06-26-2008, 02:58 AM

Originally posted by ftpaddict

Your requests are appalling, RH. Pictures speak a thousand words. WHAT DO YOU NEED TEXT FOR?

Here, I'll include some text for you:
The Pentax K20D has greater image quality than a Canon 1Ds Mkll which is many times more expensive.

Thank You...Really.

Oh and RH, I am no longer sponsored by anyone. Oh and one more thing RH, I was recently contacted by one of the big 5 to come with them and I declined.

Enough said!

Ben

christinelandon · 06-26-2008, 03:00 AM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

But the two pictures are very different. How can you "use two eyeballs" to compare an apple to orange? May I guess? Left eye for the Canon pic and the right eyeball for the Pentax pic?

RH, please get serious if you want to be taken seriously. Both of my eyes were used in comparing both pictures. For my comparison, I considered subject matter, composition and perspective, lighting, color and textural rendition, and aesthetic appeal.

What do you look for when you examine or compare photographs? May I guess? "Canon" on the camera body that took the picture and "pixels"?

benjikan · 06-26-2008, 03:04 AM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

But the two pictures are very different. How can you "use two eyeballs" to compare an apple to orange? May I guess? Left eye for the Canon pic and the right eyeball for the Pentax pic?

DO YOU know "ANYTHING" about capturing an image?

Listen Closely. Both shot with Studio Flash. Using High contrast bare bulb technique, thus very, very good contrast for IQ. Enhanced Highlights and Shadows using this technique. Both shot at optimal iso settings i.e. 100 iso. Both shot at Optimal aperture i.e. 2 to 3 stops down from "Wide Open" Three both shot with two very good lenses at their optimal settings. Four used a top of the line Minolta lV Flash meter perfectly calibrated before shooting. Five all shot in Adobe RVB and in RAW 16 bits and converted to JPEG for this posting.

Will that do for you?

Ben

RiceHigh · 06-26-2008, 03:07 AM

Nor you even include the basic EXIF data neither.

Originally posted by benjikan

DO YOU know "ANYTHING" about capturing an image?

Listen Closely. Both shot with Studio Flash. Using High contrast bare bulb technique, thus very, very good contrast for IQ. Enhanced Highlights and Shadows using this technique. Both shot at optimal iso settings i.e. 100 iso. Both shot at Optimal aperture i.e. 2 to 3 stops down from "Wide Open" Three both shot with two very good lenses at their optimal settings. Four used a top of the line Minolta lV Flash meter perfectly calibrated before shooting. Five all shot in Adobe RVB and in RAW 16 bits and converted to JPEG for this posting.

Will that do for you?

Ben

ftpaddict · 06-26-2008, 03:09 AM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

Nor you even include the basic EXIF data neither.

Pathetic. Here's the non-existant EXIF.

Camera Make: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II
Image Date: 2005:03:25 12:29:17
Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 21.0mm
Exposure Time: 0.0080 s (1/125)
Aperture: f/18.0
ISO equiv: 100
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: Manual

Camera Make: PENTAX Corporation
Camera Model: PENTAX K20D
Image Date: 2008:04:23 20:47:50
Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 28.0mm (35mm equivalent: 42mm)
Exposure Time: 0.125 s (1/8)
Aperture: f/6.3
ISO equiv: 100
White Balance: Auto
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: Manual
Exposure Mode: Manual

06-26-2008, 01:40 AM	#1
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	Interesting Comparison: Canon 1Ds Mkll vs Pentax K20D This is dedicated to my dear friend RH. User Photo Gallery - Miscellaneous User Photo Gallery - Miscellaneous Both shot at 100 iso and compressed 5/12 in PS3 to get in under the 1 mega maximum. Both using flash which enhances the contrast. Both shot at optimum aperture...etc etc etc. Last edited by benjikan; 06-26-2008 at 02:31 AM.

06-26-2008, 02:22 AM	#2
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934	Thanks, but HOW to compare? n/t There is no text!

06-26-2008, 02:41 AM	#5
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934	But also for sponsorship! n/t Originally posted by benjikan RH...What? I used the F---ING camera for "WORK, JOBS, ASSIGNMENTS, EXPERIENCE and MONEY!" That is how I compared them. GeeeeZZZZZZZZZZZ. Ben No no text!

06-26-2008, 02:46 AM	#8
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934	Yes, I have. But I don't have any sponsorship! n/t Originally posted by benjikan Use you eyes RH. You have eyes don't you. Ben No no text.

06-26-2008, 03:07 AM	#14
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934	So what? They are still an apple and an orange. Nor you even include the basic EXIF data neither. Originally posted by benjikan DO YOU know "ANYTHING" about capturing an image? Listen Closely. Both shot with Studio Flash. Using High contrast bare bulb technique, thus very, very good contrast for IQ. Enhanced Highlights and Shadows using this technique. Both shot at optimal iso settings i.e. 100 iso. Both shot at Optimal aperture i.e. 2 to 3 stops down from "Wide Open" Three both shot with two very good lenses at their optimal settings. Four used a top of the line Minolta lV Flash meter perfectly calibrated before shooting. Five all shot in Adobe RVB and in RAW 16 bits and converted to JPEG for this posting. Will that do for you? Ben

06-26-2008, 02:30 AM	#3
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308 Original Poster	Originally posted by RiceHigh There is no text! RH...What? I used the F---ING camera for "WORK, JOBS, ASSIGNMENTS, EXPERIENCE and MONEY!" That is how I compared them. GeeeeZZZZZZZZZZZ. Ben

06-26-2008, 02:41 AM	#4
christinelandon Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 812	RH, I don't get you sometimes. Benji has posted two photos. I used my two eyeballs to compare the two photos. No text required. (No comparison, either; guess which one won my comparison.)

06-26-2008, 02:44 AM	#6
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934	Originally posted by christinelandon RH, I don't get you sometimes. Benji has posted two photos. I used my two eyeballs to compare the two photos. No text required. (No comparison, either; guess which one won my comparison.) But the two pictures are very different. How can you "use two eyeballs" to compare an apple to orange? May I guess? Left eye for the Canon pic and the right eyeball for the Pentax pic?

06-26-2008, 02:45 AM	#7
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308 Original Poster	Use your eyes RH. You have eyes don't you. Ben Last edited by benjikan; 07-01-2008 at 01:20 AM.

06-26-2008, 02:51 AM	#9
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	Originally posted by benjikan Use you eyes RH. You have eyes don't you. Ben I doubt he has... And if he does in deed they are made of glass

06-26-2008, 02:54 AM	#10
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Your requests are appalling, RH. Pictures speak a thousand words. WHAT DO YOU NEED TEXT FOR? Here, I'll include some text for you: The Pentax K20D has greater image quality than a Canon 1Ds Mkll which is many times more expensive.

06-26-2008, 02:58 AM	#11
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308 Original Poster	Originally posted by ftpaddict Your requests are appalling, RH. Pictures speak a thousand words. WHAT DO YOU NEED TEXT FOR? Here, I'll include some text for you: The Pentax K20D has greater image quality than a Canon 1Ds Mkll which is many times more expensive. Thank You...Really. Oh and RH, I am no longer sponsored by anyone. Oh and one more thing RH, I was recently contacted by one of the big 5 to come with them and I declined. Enough said! Ben

06-26-2008, 03:00 AM	#12
christinelandon Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 812	Originally posted by RiceHigh But the two pictures are very different. How can you "use two eyeballs" to compare an apple to orange? May I guess? Left eye for the Canon pic and the right eyeball for the Pentax pic? RH, please get serious if you want to be taken seriously. Both of my eyes were used in comparing both pictures. For my comparison, I considered subject matter, composition and perspective, lighting, color and textural rendition, and aesthetic appeal. What do you look for when you examine or compare photographs? May I guess? "Canon" on the camera body that took the picture and "pixels"?

06-26-2008, 03:04 AM	#13
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308 Original Poster	Originally posted by RiceHigh But the two pictures are very different. How can you "use two eyeballs" to compare an apple to orange? May I guess? Left eye for the Canon pic and the right eyeball for the Pentax pic? DO YOU know "ANYTHING" about capturing an image? Listen Closely. Both shot with Studio Flash. Using High contrast bare bulb technique, thus very, very good contrast for IQ. Enhanced Highlights and Shadows using this technique. Both shot at optimal iso settings i.e. 100 iso. Both shot at Optimal aperture i.e. 2 to 3 stops down from "Wide Open" Three both shot with two very good lenses at their optimal settings. Four used a top of the line Minolta lV Flash meter perfectly calibrated before shooting. Five all shot in Adobe RVB and in RAW 16 bits and converted to JPEG for this posting. Will that do for you? Ben

06-26-2008, 03:09 AM	#15
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Originally posted by RiceHigh Nor you even include the basic EXIF data neither. Pathetic. Here's the non-existant EXIF. Camera Make: Canon Camera Model: Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II Image Date: 2005:03:25 12:29:17 Flash Used: No Focal Length: 21.0mm Exposure Time: 0.0080 s (1/125) Aperture: f/18.0 ISO equiv: 100 Metering Mode: Matrix Exposure: Manual Camera Make: PENTAX Corporation Camera Model: PENTAX K20D Image Date: 2008:04:23 20:47:50 Flash Used: No Focal Length: 28.0mm (35mm equivalent: 42mm) Exposure Time: 0.125 s (1/8) Aperture: f/6.3 ISO equiv: 100 White Balance: Auto Metering Mode: Matrix Exposure: Manual Exposure Mode: Manual

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