2008 k200d Mounted With 1981 K1000 Lens

shutterpuppy · 06-30-2008, 10:39 AM

Hey All,
Although I forgot to set the white balance correctly, I found the lens did a fair job for something that only cost me 20 bucks,still looks funny mounted on the cam

Everything was done on auto pliot mode (aperture and shutter speed), manual focus of course.

Barry

Gooshin · 06-30-2008, 10:41 AM

how can you auto pilot a lens that has no "A" contact?

shutterpuppy · 06-30-2008, 10:44 AM

Good question, I just went outside with camera knob set on "auto pict" and clicked, maybe I got lucky

Barry

shutterpuppy · 06-30-2008, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by shutterpuppy

Good question, I just went outside with camera knob set on "auto pict" and clicked, maybe I got lucky

Barry

EXIF data also shows "auto exposure" Another blow to the competition. Try mounting your Nikon F2 lens on a D series
camera

MrApollinax · 06-30-2008, 11:07 AM

Correct me if I am wrong but I had thought you still need to press the green/AE-L button to meter with K or M lenses? Does the camera remember the previous metering if this is not done?

Gooshin · 06-30-2008, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by shutterpuppy

EXIF data also shows "auto exposure" Another blow to the competition. Try mounting your Nikon F2 lens on a D series
camera

i have a sneaky suspecion that you shot at wide open, since exif says your aperture is 0.0!

so any picture you take will shoot at wide open.

can you go and take 3 pictures of something close to you but with lots of space after it (like a coffe mug on the table), one at wide open, one at F8, and one at F22, are they identical or different?

shutterpuppy · 06-30-2008, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by MrApollinax

Correct me if I am wrong but I had thought you still need to press the green/AE-L button to meter with K or M lenses? Does the camera remember the previous metering if this is not done?

I swear, I did nuttin except go to custom settings and click OK when it came to the aperture setting to be allowed instead of being "prohibited" I'll do some more experimenting later but I'd like others to try the same thing with their older Pentax lenses, just mention lens make and setting too.

Barry

MrApollinax · 06-30-2008, 11:31 AM

Oh don't get me wrong. I believe you. I have a manual K mount 28mm lens, however I press the AE-L button on my K100D to meter before I take a picture. I'm thinking the camera remembers the last metering and applies it to the current exposure.

shutterpuppy · 06-30-2008, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by MrApollinax

Oh don't get me wrong. I believe you. I have a manual K mount 28mm lens, however I press the AE-L button on my K100D to meter before I take a picture. I'm thinking the camera remembers the last metering and applies it to the current exposure.

After more playing around, it seems like the LCD screen only gives you several options (manual,bulb and aperture priority) however, I was able able to adjust the shutter speed using the thumb wheel regardless of what the mode was. I tried using the flash but every shot was washed out beyond recognition, maybe I'll have to experiment some more using 1/60 second as a start..like the old film camera days. I'm having fun trying to mate this couple.

Barry

pschlute · 06-30-2008, 12:46 PM

Shutterpuppy

On the K10 you can meter in the following ways with "K" and M lenses.....should be the same for you:

1. Manual. You set aperture on lens and press "green" button (or AE-L). The camera briefly stops down to meter and sets a shutter speed.

2. Manual. Turn the DOF preview on and hold. You will see the ev bar in the viewfinder. Adjust aperture or shutter speed until the ev bar is centred. This will only work if you have set the DOF preview to "optical preview" in the custom settings.

3. Av. This functions in a limited way. The camera will set the shutter speed according to the available light, BUT the lens will be wide open during capture, even if you set the lens on f22

shutterpuppy · 07-01-2008, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by pschlute

Shutterpuppy

On the K10 you can meter in the following ways with "K" and M lenses.....should be the same for you:

1. Manual. You set aperture on lens and press "green" button (or AE-L). The camera briefly stops down to meter and sets a shutter speed.

2. Manual. Turn the DOF preview on and hold. You will see the ev bar in the viewfinder. Adjust aperture or shutter speed until the ev bar is centred. This will only work if you have set the DOF preview to "optical preview" in the custom settings.

3. Av. This functions in a limited way. The camera will set the shutter speed according to the available light, BUT the lens will be wide open during capture, even if you set the lens on f22

Although I got the f2.0 50mm to shoot in available low light at low ISOs, can someone help me with the settings when using the pop up flash?

Thanks
Barry

Entropy · 07-01-2008, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by shutterpuppy

Although I got the f2.0 50mm to shoot in available low light at low ISOs, can someone help me with the settings when using the pop up flash?

Thanks
Barry

There is no help to be given - One of the known limitations of operating with K/M lenses is that the onboard flash will operate full power.

If you want to use flash with a K or M lens, I suggest getting a hotshoe flash that has manual power adjustment or "A" mode where the flash meters itself using a sensor. The Vivitar 285HV and Sunpak 383 both are good choices, and are much cheaper than the AF-540FGZ ($90 vs. $300+) for the same power output.

Mike Cash · 07-01-2008, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by Gooshin

i have a sneaky suspecion that you shot at wide open, since exif says your aperture is 0.0!

You expected aperture data to be recorded for an M lens?

06-30-2008, 10:39 AM	#1
shutterpuppy Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 319	2008 k200d Mounted With 1981 K1000 Lens Hey All, Although I forgot to set the white balance correctly, I found the lens did a fair job for something that only cost me 20 bucks,still looks funny mounted on the cam Everything was done on auto pliot mode (aperture and shutter speed), manual focus of course. Barry

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06-30-2008, 10:41 AM	#2
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	how can you auto pilot a lens that has no "A" contact?

06-30-2008, 10:44 AM	#3
shutterpuppy Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 319 Original Poster	Good question, I just went outside with camera knob set on "auto pict" and clicked, maybe I got lucky Barry

06-30-2008, 10:49 AM	#4
shutterpuppy Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 319 Original Poster	Originally posted by shutterpuppy Good question, I just went outside with camera knob set on "auto pict" and clicked, maybe I got lucky Barry EXIF data also shows "auto exposure" Another blow to the competition. Try mounting your Nikon F2 lens on a D series camera

06-30-2008, 11:07 AM	#5
MrApollinax Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,529	Correct me if I am wrong but I had thought you still need to press the green/AE-L button to meter with K or M lenses? Does the camera remember the previous metering if this is not done?

06-30-2008, 11:12 AM	#6
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	Originally posted by shutterpuppy EXIF data also shows "auto exposure" Another blow to the competition. Try mounting your Nikon F2 lens on a D series camera i have a sneaky suspecion that you shot at wide open, since exif says your aperture is 0.0! so any picture you take will shoot at wide open. can you go and take 3 pictures of something close to you but with lots of space after it (like a coffe mug on the table), one at wide open, one at F8, and one at F22, are they identical or different?

06-30-2008, 11:13 AM	#7
shutterpuppy Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 319 Original Poster	Originally posted by MrApollinax Correct me if I am wrong but I had thought you still need to press the green/AE-L button to meter with K or M lenses? Does the camera remember the previous metering if this is not done? I swear, I did nuttin except go to custom settings and click OK when it came to the aperture setting to be allowed instead of being "prohibited" I'll do some more experimenting later but I'd like others to try the same thing with their older Pentax lenses, just mention lens make and setting too. Barry

06-30-2008, 11:31 AM	#8
MrApollinax Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,529	Oh don't get me wrong. I believe you. I have a manual K mount 28mm lens, however I press the AE-L button on my K100D to meter before I take a picture. I'm thinking the camera remembers the last metering and applies it to the current exposure.

06-30-2008, 11:40 AM	#9
shutterpuppy Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 319 Original Poster	Originally posted by MrApollinax Oh don't get me wrong. I believe you. I have a manual K mount 28mm lens, however I press the AE-L button on my K100D to meter before I take a picture. I'm thinking the camera remembers the last metering and applies it to the current exposure. After more playing around, it seems like the LCD screen only gives you several options (manual,bulb and aperture priority) however, I was able able to adjust the shutter speed using the thumb wheel regardless of what the mode was. I tried using the flash but every shot was washed out beyond recognition, maybe I'll have to experiment some more using 1/60 second as a start..like the old film camera days. I'm having fun trying to mate this couple. Barry

06-30-2008, 12:46 PM	#10
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,198	Shutterpuppy On the K10 you can meter in the following ways with "K" and M lenses.....should be the same for you: 1. Manual. You set aperture on lens and press "green" button (or AE-L). The camera briefly stops down to meter and sets a shutter speed. 2. Manual. Turn the DOF preview on and hold. You will see the ev bar in the viewfinder. Adjust aperture or shutter speed until the ev bar is centred. This will only work if you have set the DOF preview to "optical preview" in the custom settings. 3. Av. This functions in a limited way. The camera will set the shutter speed according to the available light, BUT the lens will be wide open during capture, even if you set the lens on f22

07-01-2008, 07:17 AM	#11
shutterpuppy Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 319 Original Poster	Originally posted by pschlute Shutterpuppy On the K10 you can meter in the following ways with "K" and M lenses.....should be the same for you: 1. Manual. You set aperture on lens and press "green" button (or AE-L). The camera briefly stops down to meter and sets a shutter speed. 2. Manual. Turn the DOF preview on and hold. You will see the ev bar in the viewfinder. Adjust aperture or shutter speed until the ev bar is centred. This will only work if you have set the DOF preview to "optical preview" in the custom settings. 3. Av. This functions in a limited way. The camera will set the shutter speed according to the available light, BUT the lens will be wide open during capture, even if you set the lens on f22 Although I got the f2.0 50mm to shoot in available low light at low ISOs, can someone help me with the settings when using the pop up flash? Thanks Barry

07-01-2008, 09:59 AM	#12
Entropy Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Owego, NY Posts: 976	Originally posted by shutterpuppy Although I got the f2.0 50mm to shoot in available low light at low ISOs, can someone help me with the settings when using the pop up flash? Thanks Barry There is no help to be given - One of the known limitations of operating with K/M lenses is that the onboard flash will operate full power. If you want to use flash with a K or M lens, I suggest getting a hotshoe flash that has manual power adjustment or "A" mode where the flash meters itself using a sensor. The Vivitar 285HV and Sunpak 383 both are good choices, and are much cheaper than the AF-540FGZ ($90 vs. $300+) for the same power output.

07-01-2008, 12:44 PM	#13
Mike Cash Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,950	Originally posted by Gooshin i have a sneaky suspecion that you shot at wide open, since exif says your aperture is 0.0! You expected aperture data to be recorded for an M lens?