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04-05-2016, 05:05 PM   #121
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QuoteOriginally posted by jatrax Quote
There is still a DA UWA zoom on the lens map. Looks like about 12-28ish.

+1. All of the DA* lenses need a refresh over the next few years but I suspect it will be 2017 - 2018 before they get to them.
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Before advanced CAD design tools it took about ten years to earn back the cost of designing a lens (software may have shortened that) so some of the DA primes might take longer before a refresh - of the Limiteds and * lenses, I think only the SMC 40 is over ten, and the 21 and 70 are around ten - the *16-50 and *50-135 were introduced in 2007.

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I'm one of those that was not (that) interested to buy K-1, but the price point it's launched IS VERY TEMPTING.
So I propably will buy it later this year ...
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You know, I've simply decided I need to concentrate on learning my gear and photography. I have a K5II, K5IIs, 2 K-01s, and a 200, none with nearly enough images on them, and I've seen stunning images others have produced from these cameras, especially with good glass. I get too caught up in reading about the latest bodies and how great they are, at the expense of spending time on photography. I'm not questioning at all the qualities of the new bodies, but that's part of the equation, and learning the craft a big part of the other, which I need to buckle down on.
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No, if the price here (Japan) is still stay at this level. it is a Japanese product, but it is more expensive than in the US!
it currently at 278,100 JPY or 2,520 USD.

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It will be interesting to see how well the K-1 will sell. All the attention is promising.

For me, though... I definitely don't need it. The reason I got back to "proper" cameras was wildlife shooting. And a K-3+DA55-300 is already at the limit of what I'm willing to carry. In that sense APS-C is the right set of compromises for me, while 135 format is most decidedly not. If I could get a smaller system with an OVF I would probably have gone there.

Then again... shiny! Me wants!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
You have 100% control of DoF with either format. Technically smaller sensors have a narrower DoF when controlling for all other variables.
You probably need to make a list of those other variables.
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QuoteOriginally posted by reh321 Quote
You probably need to make a list of those other variables.
DOF is variable with sensor size, if it's that important to you, shoot MF. 645 is shallower than 35mm and still quite portable.

You can still get plenty of control over DOF with an APS-C camera unless.

Unless you shoot everything wide open, DOF probably isn't the a driving reason to move to 35mm. Although it might be a reason to consider amongst many variables.

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I probably will when Pentax makes a few FF lenses I consider important.
24-105 f/4 or 24-85 f/4
70-200 f/4
85 f1.8 or f/1.4
20 f/2 or f/2.8

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QuoteOriginally posted by sarge Quote
I probably will when Pentax makes a few FF lenses I consider important.
24-105 f/4 or 24-85 f/4
70-200 f/4
85 f1.8 or f/1.4
20 f/2 or f/2.8
Similarly ... High quality f4 zooms which will provide a lighter package is key for me. With a few FF primes I'd move ...
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QuoteOriginally posted by BarryE Quote
Similarly ... High quality f4 zooms which will provide a lighter package is key for me. With a few FF primes I'd move ...
My thinking exactly.
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For me, it's not an upgrade.

I shot my Spotmatic for 40 years before I bought my K7. I'm not upgrading to Kq1, I'm going home.
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QuoteOriginally posted by BarryE Quote
High quality f4 zooms which will provide a lighter package is key for me. With a few FF primes I'd move ...
Agree. Those f/2.8 monsters are really nice but I would much prefer an equally nice set of f/4 zooms. Unfortunately it seems we have a choice of 'professional' f/2.8 glass or 'consumer' slower glass. I want 'professional' f/4 glass.

I'm current looking at the FA 20-35 f/4 and the F 24-50 f/4 but I need a really high quality 70-200 f/4. Maybe the DA*60-250 will work acceptably, we will see.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jatrax Quote
Agree. Those f/2.8 monsters are really nice but I would much prefer an equally nice set of f/4 zooms. Unfortunately it seems we have a choice of 'professional' f/2.8 glass or 'consumer' slower glass. I want 'professional' f/4 glass.

I'm current looking at the FA 20-35 f/4 and the F 24-50 f/4 but I need a really high quality 70-200 f/4. Maybe the DA*60-250 will work acceptably, we will see.
Pentax will not be able to run two lines of professional glas, plus FF and APS-C lines. My 70-200 was not delivered yet, I used to work with an early Nikon 2.8/80-200 hoping that the Pentx as not too much bigger and heavier.
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QuoteOriginally posted by zapp Quote
Pentax will not be able to run two lines of professional glass
Probably not, at least in the foreseeable future. The good news is that their 'good' consumer glass like the DA 16-85 is quite good, though slow. And I much prefer a constant aperture but that seems to have gone away as well.
Still one can hope. I would like a new 20-35 f/4 matched with a really good 28-105 f/4 and an 80-220ish f/4.

QuoteOriginally posted by zapp Quote
work with an early Nikon 2.8/80-200 hoping that the Pentax as not too much bigger and heavier.
Nikon 80-200 = 1,275g
Pentax 70-200 = 1,755g

Better start working out
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QuoteOriginally posted by VoiceOfReason Quote
Already preordered. The K1 and K3 will perfectly compliment each other until a more capable APSC camera comes along.
I agree. This is my plan as well!
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