Originally posted by D4rknezz What its saying , is that image quality suffers from having smaller mount and applying SR.
Let's just be clear on what exactly he said.
a) He said that mounts that have narrow diameter, will end up having more difficulty in producing an image circle large enough to cover FF sensor and the extra dimension needed for the SR to be effective.
This might be true to some extent, but let's not forget that there were mounts like m42 and even m39 and m37, which covered the whole FF film plane (and these mounts had same register distance as K-mount, they were just narrower). This shows that it comes down to lens design. Some lens designs require a large back element; and of course the mount size will limit this. But the Pentax K seems to be decently wide enough. And even if it does limit
some types of designs, we don't really notice this "hole." We have plenty of lenses available for Pentax, from fast UWA 14mm f2.8, fisheye, superzoom, telephoto (like DA 560mm), and so on. So the mount narrowness limitation has not yet, as far as we can tell, been a serious problem for Pentax K
b) He also said that making a lens that covers the FF sensor + the SR extra, it means you need to make a bigger lens.
Again, this heavily depends on the lens design. Just the SR might not require so much extra image circle diameter. Yes, you need a bigger lens to produce a bigger image circle in some cases (compare Q lenses to 645 lenses), but you can get away with quite compact designs. We can see that with lenses like DFA 100mm WR - it is telephoto, FF, allows SR, and it is super compact (pretty sure it is as small or smaller than other brand's 100mm macro lenses; and it still has stunning image quality). Another example could be the FA 50mm f1.4, and I'm sure we can find other cases of compact lenses with fast aperture and good image quality that allow FF and SR (as in, they don't make compromises just to accommodate SR). Again, I don't think this limit has been reached in Pentax K. Sony E might be different, but that is because it has a dramatically short register distance. This is why so many Sony lenses are much bigger than Pentax equivalents. If you put a Pentax DA limited lens on a K-01 or K-S1, you can get a smaller overall package than some Sony E camera+lens combinations; despite Pentax cameras being much thicker.
Also, the estimates on how much extra image circle is required for SR have been kind of odd. I've read that it takes only 1mm or that it takes a lot of extra space. I guess it depends on the lens' focal length/magnification. So macro or super telephoto lenses would require the most extra space (incidentally, those are the kinds that the 645 mount has in-lens SR, right?)
c) He then said that you can make a regular size lens on a narrow mount, and then just apply digital corrections to combat the optical problems; but that this will affect the image quality negatively.
Now, applying digital corrections does technically reduce image quality. But the only corrections necessary for the problems he mentioned would be vignetting correction (already available, lots of people use it; not a big deal), digital SR (lots of brands use it; I don't like it, but in some cases its unavoidable. Pentax only uses digital SR in video mode of cameras introduced after the K-01; does not use SR for photos)
Also, with modern sensors that capture 12, 14 bits; and modern fast CPU and lens profiles, digital corrections will not really become noticeable for a while. You really have to push things for the optical corrections to ruin these files
Conclusion: While the things he said could technically become problems, they are not problems yet. Maybe for lenses like 24mm f1.2 or some other truly exotic designs; but not many manufacturers are making those, they are just hypotheticals. The SR requirements are being blown a little out of proportion to emphasize why Fuji did what it did.
But! He might have been talking about the Pentax Q. The Q is different from K mount in many ways, so those things he mentioned might be more problematic in the Q series. I can't really comment on that, though. Definitely a smaller mount, with smaller register distance; but Pentax hasn't really explored the Q lineup fully. We haven't seen really fast primes yet or really UWA glass with fast aperture.
So no, Pentax mechanical SR does not negatively affect the image quality (if you use it right!), and it does not limit lens designs very much.
Last edited by Na Horuk; 04-03-2016 at 04:55 AM.