Originally posted by normhead I'm following kengoh very closely
You'll notice kengoh uses his K-1 for a few of the images in this thread and a K-3 for the last ones posted.
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/12-post-your-photos/321944-nature-two-recent-nesting.html
You'll notice the bottom image is shot with a K-3. So, I'll just beg to differ. I can look at what folks are doing and draw conclusions. With all due respect, so far, I'm seeing some issues with the k-1 images, related to the narrower DoF and other focus issues. I am also being some seriously enthusiastic posters who are completely over valuing the quality of their images, based on their belief that an image they wouldn't have posted with a K-3 or K-5 was taken with a K-1. With the PS landscape Pixel Shift images there are some lights out K-1 images. Something I'm sure my K-3 can't approach. I think what is happening with the K-1 is, you can get better images, birding and other wildlife, but it's so much more trouble that people don't. I am quite comfortable making these observations without owning a K-1. But at the end of the day, if change my mind on this, it will be because of something someone like kengoh says. I don't take advice from folks who don't produce the kinds of quality images I like. The fact that some guy is happy producing an image on his K-1 I wouldn't be happy with taken on a K-5 makes practically no impression on me. Those who don't get lots of appreciation posting over in the 300mm lens club, are going to have to show me they have a clue about what the post about before I pay much attention. For you K-1 ownership is the price of admission to the "discuss the K-1 club". For me discussing wildlife, it's a track record over in the 300mm plus club, in many cases new K-1 owners aren't aren't even aware of the excellent work posted with everything from K20Ds to K-1s. Ownership of a K-1 counts for practically nothing. If you want to know why, I'll analyze and score the last 50 pictures in the 300 plus club, and the last 50 images in the K-1 images club, and the last 50 images in the K-3 club. I think that will pretty clearly demonstrate the correlation between camera ownership and photographic expertise as well as the correlation between the camera used and the number of great images produced.
Simply stated, good photographers produce good images with whatever they use. Having the ability to buy a K-1 doesn't make you an expert on anything.
My prejudice is K-3 for birding, K-1 for landscape, still life, studio etc. (Most of my images are wildlife and birds) I'm looking for a few images that might change that, or some discussion by guys who've used a k-3 and now use either a K-1 or both a K-1 and K-3. So threads like this are definitely of interest.
I couldn't agree more with you regarding the K-1 being a tool and not a solution to good photography...
To be fair though, members here have had much more time to shoot with the K-3 series and the 300 club is a result of that.
Given enough time, there may be an inspiring number of K-1 posts at the top rankings in that club thread...
Also, if you look at the photos you linked for Kengoh, the first image is ISO 6400. That same photo is not going to be achievable on the K-3 or K-3ii. Even the last few shots at ISO 2000/2500 have more noise than the K-1 at ISO 6400.
Again, I agree that for most wildlife shooters, the K-3ii would be the better choice.
I have achieved incredible results with my K-3ii + DA*300. By no means do I have enough reputation on the 300 club to convince anyone here, but I am happy with the results of my gear and they have taught me more about photography in the last 6 months than I could have ever imagined. If I jumped on the K-1 bandwagon back then I may have been overwhelmed and given up already.
The K-3ii still overwhelms at times, but that helps me learn. I am comfortable enough with the K-3ii that I can take it pretty much anywhere now and know I will get a few good shots.
I'm just arguing both sides, because if you can't argue both sides you really shouldn't be "debating" at all - you need not argue against your own morality to argue for a position you oppose.
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Originally posted by Suhail Hi,
I own a K-5IIs, a K-S2, and a K-r for back-up usually left at home. I keep a 300 mm lens over K-5IIs all the time for wildlife photography, and use either a 100mm/F2 macro or a 18-135 mm for nature (flowers and landscapes with my dog in it) photography on K-S2.
Reading about K-1 and K-3ii on the web, I am salivating. Given my interest of wildlife and nature photography, should I buy a K-1 or K-3ii or perhaps invest in a good quality wide angle zoom lens for landscapes.
I bought my 300mm and 100mm after seeking advice on these forums and I have not been disappointed by these two. I thought it's about time I sought more advice.
I will be looking forward to hearing from you.
Regards,
Suhail
To the OP.
Sorry we got a bit off track...
Is your 300mm the DA*?
I do not believe that was ever confirmed...
Sorry, just noticed it in your signature
The K-3ii is an incredible camera, if you find one used for around $600 I would go that route.
I'd also consider that HD 1.4xTC to pair with the DA*300.
So with that:
K-1 = $1800 (brand new)
K-3ii + HD 1.4xTC = $1000 (used market)
I'd take the latter - every day, no questions asked. + $800 to spend elsewhere
Just remember, bodies will always become obsolete.
If you invest in good glass now, it will serve you well for many more years to come.
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