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06-10-2016, 06:44 AM   #1
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What is the best Pentax to date for video?

What is the best Pentax to date for video, and where does the K-01 rank?
I am talking about IQ ONLY, as I would never use image stabilization or auto focus no mater how good they work.


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06-10-2016, 06:56 AM   #2
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None of them are all that great. The K-01 is one of the better ones, since unlike later models, it retains mechanical SR (although some don't like the noise the microphone picks up), and the controls and codec are better than those on the K-5. It can record full 1080p, but at a max of 30fps. Other downsides include no AF or focus peaking during recording.

Believe it or not, the Pentax body I most commonly use for video is the Q-7, since the video quality is surprisingly good, the manual controls are decent, it is easy to assemble a lightweight rig, and it accepts a lot of outstanding c mount cinema glass. I also find the video also isn't as prone to jello or shearing as it is n the larger sensored cameras.
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The K-01 uses digital SR for video. I find I often prefer to switch it off rather than see the "jello" effect.
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Yep, double checking this you are right. I hadb't used it in so long that I misrememebered it as being similar to the K-5.

QuoteOriginally posted by Ontarian50 Quote
The K-01 uses digital SR for video. I find I often prefer to switch it off rather than see the "jello" effect.


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K-01 video quality is good with SR turned off, and it is especially great for making time lapses. DSLR cameras in general are not known for their video capabilities, except maybe a few in the Canon Ti line. The recently announced K-70 seems to have the most advanced video features on a Pentax DSLR to date.. But I think the best bet currently for image quality and sharpness would be one of the flagship models, K-5IIs or K-3II.
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Quality-wise I'd argue the K-1 is the best, and feature-wise the K-70. But the overall quality could still use some improvement, since videos are heavily compressed.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Adam Quote
Quality-wise I'd argue the K-1 is the best, and feature-wise the K-70. But the overall quality could still use some improvement, since videos are heavily compressed.
I agree with Adam.

K1 is the best, then K3 and then K5 - in that order.
The K7 *maybe* but it maxed out at 720p.
Everything else, had some good qualities, but left out other things.
Some had headphones jacks, WR, or some had HDMI, but no out during video...etc. etc.

The K5 started/enabled a professional workflow.

Now we need 1080p/60 or 2k or even 4k with good bit rates.
I think the K70 is the testbed for video that is probably going to come when we see the updated K3 III.
I will see where the K70 goes, but the new lens combination with it, might be the best video from Pentax yet.
We'll see.
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True for DR and DOF purposes, and to a certain extent for the controls, but the jello and shearing are absolutely atrocious on the K-1, just as bad or worse than on any of the aps-c bodies. The sensor simply doesn't have the bandwidth to get the readout speed necessary for high quality video.

QuoteOriginally posted by Adam Quote
Quality-wise I'd argue the K-1 is the best, and feature-wise the K-70. But the overall quality could still use some improvement, since videos are heavily compressed.


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You know I've heartily disagreed with you on this in the past, and I'll say it again. None of the Pentax DSLRs permit anything even close to an acceptable professional workflow.
The Problems:
- Terrible "rolling shutter" effect across all models
- poor codecs/compression bandwidth and no raw video out on any model
- lack of 4k on any model
- interlaced recording in many cases
- nonstandard codec implementations in many models
- poor framerate selections on many models
- controls range from terrible to merely bad depending on the model
- sensor overheating due to the presence of the floating SR mechanism, which prevents the use of a heat sink
- choice of noisy (mechanical) or inadequate (digital) SR
- poor tethering/monitoring options, in-camera or off
- non-existent to poor AF during video recording
- poor aperture control during video recording
- focus peaking not available during live view on most models

They just aren't great video cameras, nor are they intended to be, and Ricoh has always been upfront about this. I don't understand why you continue beating yourself over the head trying to use Pentax cameras in your own workflow when there are much better affordable options like Panasonic, BlackMagic, and even Sony for what you are trying to do.

Will the K-70 perhaps be a better option. Sure, it looks that way on paper, but it certainly doesn't address all the issues listed above, and I'd wager it will be several more generations before Pentax catches up even to where the other, more video-oriented brands are right now.


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I agree with Adam.

K1 is the best, then K3 and then K5 - in that order.
The K7 *maybe* but it maxed out at 720p.
Everything else, had some good qualities, but left out other things.
Some had headphones jacks, WR, or some had HDMI, but no out during video...etc. etc.

The K5 started/enabled a professional workflow.

Now we need 1080p/60 or 2k or even 4k with good bit rates.
I think the K70 is the testbed for video that is probably going to come when we see the updated K3 III.
I will see where the K70 goes, but the new lens combination with it, might be the best video from Pentax yet.
We'll see.



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I used to keep hoping that Pentax would step up their video game, but now that I've gone dual m43 I no longer worry about it. I use my Pentax for photography and my Panasonic for video (and for when I just want a smaller camera). The new Panasonic GX80/85 in particular is a bargain for a good video camera.

That being said, I have gotten some decent video from my K-30, but with the limitations already noted above. It really just depends on what/where you're shooting, and what your expectations are.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Edgar_in_Indy Quote
That being said, I have gotten some decent video from my K-30, but with the limitations already noted above. It really just depends on what/where you're shooting, and what your expectations are.
Well stated. Sometimes it's good enough, at other times it isn't!

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Where did the super-long and super-detailed reply from LaurenOE go? Am I loosing my marbles? Did she say too much and blow her cover? Is the NSA involved?? Perhaps FEMA?

And what happens when you "Like" a post, and then it disappears? Is it true that it can disrupt the space-time continuum??
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QuoteOriginally posted by Edgar_in_Indy Quote
Where did the super-long and super-detailed reply from LaurenOE go? Am I loosing my marbles? Did she say too much and blow her cover? Is the NSA involved?? Perhaps FEMA?

And what happens when you "Like" a post, and then it disappears? Is it true that it can disrupt the space-time continuum??
I killed it.
I felt that I was going into "rant" territory or bragging about what I do.
Sometimes I go overboard with too much detail.
I *reeled* myself in.

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QuoteOriginally posted by LaurenOE Quote
I killed it.
I felt that I was going into "rant" territory or bragging about what I do.
Sometimes I go overboard with too much detail.
I *reeled* myself in.

That's too bad. I didn't think it was aggressive, even if it did bear some passing resemblance to a rant, and there was some interesting info in there.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Edgar_in_Indy Quote
That's too bad. I didn't think it was aggressive, even if it did bear some passing resemblance to a rant, and there was some interesting info in there.
Thanks.
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