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07-11-2016, 09:26 PM   #1
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Will Ricoh-Pentax ever create k-mount mirrorless camera?

Just wondering, but certainly hope so.

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QuoteOriginally posted by talkskiwon Quote
Just wondering, but certainly hope so.
They already did, and it didn't do too well. Not sure anything can be changed to make a K-mount mirrorless make sense. The mirror doesn't really make things any bulkier due to the way the mount is designed. The only option would be to make mirrorless-only lenses along with an adapter for existing lenses, an idea that was floated around at CP+ 2012 but subsequently abandoned (see the photo below).


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Maybe Pentax could get a deal on Samsung's camera division and adapt to those.
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Seriously, as Adam says, for mirrorless to make sense it has to be smaller. The K mount flange to sensor distance is just too far. Mirrorless is becoming increasingly popular ( some say it is the future ) so you would hope that Pentax would come out with mirrorless that can be adapted to K mount.
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I full heartedly think they need a k-02 with pretty much the same body but with phase detect AF and gear it towards video

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mirrorless k-mount makes perfect sense for video as dslrs don't use their mirror in video mode so videographers would never need a mirror

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Ricoh is stretched already. A mirrorless line is not likely. They will probably only do it when Canon and Nikon also get serious about mirrorless and DSLR's really become a niche product (which they are not now and won't be for some time). They may however do something like Hasselblad did with the X1D. But for that to be a success they will have to set up a software design team. Ricoh is weak in software. Their apps, DCU 5, camera interface (while practical it is anciŽnt and not ready for a touch interface) are all pretty basic and limited and DCU is plain ugly and outdated.
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I would enjoy an APS-C Pentax mirrorless camera like the K-01, but which has:
- Stops down lenses automatically when aperture ring is used, instead of green button usage (though I guess we already have M42 lenses for that)
- Has an EVF

However, I guess other mirrorless cameras do this well already with an adapter.
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Do any other manufacturers make a compact mirrorless body that is directly compatible with their DSLR lenses?
Is it even possible/practical/sensical? Makes much more sense both in design and economics to produce new lenses for people to buy.
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Only Sigma: http://www4.pcmag.com/media/images/495704-sigma-sd-quattro.jpg The K-01 was the only dslr mount mirrorless before this one I believe unless you count slt's. It's not very practical because of the long flange distance that isn't needed. A lot of empty space to carry around.

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Yeah the K-01 is hardly what I'd call compact, which is surely the main benefit of mirrorless.
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But - as has been observed in other threads - they could make K-01 follow up in FF. The K-01 suffered a bit for its styling which (looking at the styling of the current crop of mirrorless) was simply ahead of its time. In FF it could be a Cinderella rather than the ugly (to some) step sister. It could be kept simple and relatively low cost. I would buy one. But that may be its biggest negative. A mirrorless FF in the form of a re-vamped K-01 might cut in to K-1 sales too much.
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Interesting though, since I often take me K-01 as a second body, and I want a K-1 mainly for landscape, I'd be quite happy with a slightly larger than the k-01 K-02. That would be perfect, especially if they knocked 3 or 4 hundred off the price. It would be awesome, but I don't expect it.

For landscape I don't need a viewfinder, I don't need a fast frame rate, all I need is a good basic camera in small portable package. The K-1 is actually more than I need.
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QuoteOriginally posted by PJ1 Quote
But - as has been observed in other threads - they could make K-01 follow up in FF.
If it fails, try again. Just make sure it will really fail this time
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To me, the biggest screw-up with the design of the K-01 was the lack of a click-on viewfinder,
as used on the Olympus M43.
I had an M43 for a long time. As soon as I got a vf, I started to use the camera a lot more.

I rarely use the K-01 now.
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Same here, I rarely use it, but, it's often in my camera bag. With the 40XS on it or even the 21ltd. it fits really nice in my bag, and is a nice compliment to the longer lens that's usually on my K-3.
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QuoteOriginally posted by victormeldrew Quote
Yeah the K-01 is hardly what I'd call compact, which is surely the main benefit of mirrorless.
The main advantage of a mirrorless ILC is the potential for reduced weight, compared with an equivalent DSLR. Overall size may be a secondary advantage, but both are offset to some extent by the size and weight of the system lenses.

A follow-on from the K-01 with an in-built EVF, and a more traditional body styling could find a greater success.
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