How the Pentax K-1 stacks up against the Nikon D810

Dlanor Sekao · 07-12-2016, 08:37 PM - **1 Like**

My neighbor man just showed me this........I thought that it was prudent to share as the reviews and comparisons trickle in........Enjoy !
Among 83 cameras the Pentax K-1 Ranked #2......

Pentax K-1 vs Nikon D810 Detailed Comparison

Last edited by Dlanor Sekao; 07-12-2016 at 08:42 PM.

Paul the Sunman · 07-12-2016, 08:50 PM

Pretty dry stuff. Basic facts are useful, though there's so much more that a serious photographer would want to know. Nevertheless, it's good to see the K1 being taken seriously based on "objective" measures.

**RobA_Oz** · 07-12-2016, 09:28 PM

Interesting that they acknowledged the Astrotrace function of the K-1, but not pixel-shift. I'm sure DPR would dispute their finding in respect of the sports photography performance.

This is what would be called a "desktop" review, as distinct from a "field" review.

joergens.mi · 07-12-2016, 09:49 PM

Interesting is also this
Pentax K-1 vs Nikon D750 Detailed Comparison

I don't understand why K-1 gets the second place here, but it is no problem (there is no bashing on this comparison)
- Why is size 7 point difference?
- What is the difference in features?

biz-engineer · 07-12-2016, 10:57 PM

The D750 is typically a higher performance electronics device mounted into a disposable body in order to save costs. I used a D750, and the build quality has nothing to do with a K1. I told Nikon rep that it is a disposable camera, and he replies "well, that true, so are a lot of consumer electronics".

**ffking** · 07-13-2016, 12:35 AM

The D750 is a classic case of where a camera makes a big leap forward and gets (often justified) rave reviews at the time which are never modified as technology (fr instance sensors) improves, so when you compare and older camera with a newer one the older one tends to be over-rated by comparison - which isn't to say that it's a bad camera, just that (for instance), can it really be judged the same value for money as the K-1?

biz-engineer · 07-13-2016, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by ffking

The D750 is a classic case of where a camera makes a big leap forward and gets (often justified) rave reviews at the time which are never modified as technology (fr instance sensors) improves, so when you compare and older camera with a newer one the older one tends to be over-rated by comparison - which isn't to say that it's a bad camera, just that (for instance), can it really be judged the same value for money as the K-1?

You are right. Review aren't absolute but relative.

Last edited by biz-engineer; 07-13-2016 at 12:52 AM.

**Rondec** · 07-13-2016, 02:34 AM - **1 Like**

The D750 is a better camera if you need really good focus tracking and high frame rates and good buffer size. These are the sorts of things that neither the K-1 or the D810 are going to excel at.

biz-engineer · 07-13-2016, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

The D750 is a better camera if you need really good focus tracking and high frame rates and good buffer size. These are the sorts of things that neither the K-1 or the D810 are going to excel at.

I believe D750 AF is good, but 6.5 FPS is not a big step above K1, and the D750 buffer is no much better than K1 (https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison). Nikon create the D750 to compete with 5DIII and canon created the 6D to compete with the D600, none of those cameras are significantly faster than K1 and to getting into the sport DSLR category, you really to get a the D4,D5, 1D, 1Dx series that are 100% better than the general purpose D750/D810/5Ds/K1.

**Rondec** · 07-13-2016, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

I believe D750 AF is good, but 6.5 FPS is not a big step above K1, and the D750 buffer is no much better than K1 (https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison). Nikon create the D750 to compete with 5DIII and canon created the 6D to compete with the D600, none of those cameras are significantly faster than K1 and to getting into the sport DSLR category, you really to get a the D4,D5, 1D, 1Dx series that are 100% better than the general purpose D750/D810/5Ds/K1.

True, but all those sports cameras are really expensive. I always thought the D750 was sold as a poor man's D4.

biz-engineer · 07-13-2016, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by Rondec

True, but all those sports cameras are really expensive. I always thought the D750 was sold as a poor man's D4.

:-) yes !

Nicolas06 · 07-17-2016, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by ffking

The D750 is a classic case of where a camera makes a big leap forward and gets (often justified) rave reviews at the time which are never modified as technology (fr instance sensors) improves, so when you compare and older camera with a newer one the older one tends to be over-rated by comparison - which isn't to say that it's a bad camera, just that (for instance), can it really be judged the same value for money as the K-1?

The D750 biggest issue (now solved maybe) was the light leaks. Other than that it sport better AF overall. This may not matter to everybody. Biz-engineer for example is trained enough to not care much and do well with K1. And for most people K1 AF is likely good enough.

Still 6.5FPS vs 4.5 on FF is significant improvement, K1 is as fast only in APSC mode and then you might as well get a D7100 or K3. The Nikon echosystem is much stronger. You get all the latest sigma/tamron lenses at sigma/tamron prices. Nikon has lot of lenses on top of that of professionnal quality. Because the lenses where there for years, you can find them used too (for example a Nikon 70-200 for 1150€ or 24-70 for $1000...)

In France the D750 is 25% cheaper than K1, so that almost a free lens to get for the price. Maybe a sigma 24-70 f/2.8 or 24-105 f/4...

The K1 will be better for landscapes, still shooting on a tripod (pixel shift...), that 100% true. But while a landscape with only 24MP can still quite successfully be print at any size without any problem, if the focus if off, you will just trash the photo of that action shoot. It might also be that there more pro photographers making money shooting event, people, sports were AF matter and high resolution doesn't than landscapes.

This of course is subjective. I still prefer FAltds for example and think K3 AF good enough so for me K1 would make more sense even if I find it doesn't fit my needd (I want smaller/lighter and a small 24mm prime as well as an EVF so if use digital zoom for reach I still get a clear view).

biz-engineer · 07-19-2016, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by Nicolas06

In France the D750 is 25% cheaper than K1, so that almost a free lens to get for the price. Maybe a sigma 24-70 f/2.8 or 24-105 f/4...

Your behaviour is emotionally driven. What do you gain by promoting Nikon offering in Pentax forum? If you'd get a commission from Nikon , good for you, but if not, you better keep silent about promoting other brands. When you promote Nikon offering, all it does, indirectly, it destroys the value of your own Pentax gear. If you own Pentax gear, try to avoid destroying your own value. We don't ask you to promote Pentax, but at least you can keep quiet, and it is ethical to do so. Some other people have said all the good of Pentax in order to sell it and purchased Nikon in the meantime. You're just doing the opposite, i.e keepting Pentax gear and criticizing the brand at the same time, at best this will do nothing to you and at worst this will hurt you.

What benefit do you get out of openly showing how better is Nikon offering?

Kunzite · 07-19-2016, 08:48 AM

25% cheaper... is this from Rakuten? (i.e. import goods)

Gimbal · 07-19-2016, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

Your behaviour is emotionally driven. What do you gain by promoting Nikon offering in Pentax forum? If you'd get a commission from Nikon , good for you, but if not, you better keep silent about promoting other brands. When you promote Nikon offering, all it does, indirectly, it destroys the value of your own Pentax gear. If you own Pentax gear, try to avoid destroying your own value. We don't ask you to promote Pentax, but at least you can keep quiet, and it is ethical to do so. Some other people have said all the good of Pentax in order to sell it and purchased Nikon in the meantime. You're just doing the opposite, i.e keepting Pentax gear and criticizing the brand at the same time, at best this will do nothing to you and at worst this will hurt you.

What benefit do you get out of openly showing how better is Nikon offering?

I don't agree with you here biz-engineer.
People who hide facts or "forget" to mention them because they make the opposite side look good is imho people you can't trust. That means the majority of salesmen for instance, can't trust them.

07-12-2016, 08:37 PM - 1 Like	#1
Dlanor Sekao Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,457	How the Pentax K-1 stacks up against the Nikon D810 My neighbor man just showed me this........I thought that it was prudent to share as the reviews and comparisons trickle in........Enjoy ! Among 83 cameras the Pentax K-1 Ranked #2...... Pentax K-1 vs Nikon D810 Detailed Comparison Last edited by Dlanor Sekao; 07-12-2016 at 08:42 PM.

07-17-2016, 02:15 PM	#12
Nicolas06 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 4,854	Originally posted by ffking The D750 is a classic case of where a camera makes a big leap forward and gets (often justified) rave reviews at the time which are never modified as technology (fr instance sensors) improves, so when you compare and older camera with a newer one the older one tends to be over-rated by comparison - which isn't to say that it's a bad camera, just that (for instance), can it really be judged the same value for money as the K-1? The D750 biggest issue (now solved maybe) was the light leaks. Other than that it sport better AF overall. This may not matter to everybody. Biz-engineer for example is trained enough to not care much and do well with K1. And for most people K1 AF is likely good enough. Still 6.5FPS vs 4.5 on FF is significant improvement, K1 is as fast only in APSC mode and then you might as well get a D7100 or K3. The Nikon echosystem is much stronger. You get all the latest sigma/tamron lenses at sigma/tamron prices. Nikon has lot of lenses on top of that of professionnal quality. Because the lenses where there for years, you can find them used too (for example a Nikon 70-200 for 1150€ or 24-70 for $1000...) In France the D750 is 25% cheaper than K1, so that almost a free lens to get for the price. Maybe a sigma 24-70 f/2.8 or 24-105 f/4... The K1 will be better for landscapes, still shooting on a tripod (pixel shift...), that 100% true. But while a landscape with only 24MP can still quite successfully be print at any size without any problem, if the focus if off, you will just trash the photo of that action shoot. It might also be that there more pro photographers making money shooting event, people, sports were AF matter and high resolution doesn't than landscapes. This of course is subjective. I still prefer FAltds for example and think K3 AF good enough so for me K1 would make more sense even if I find it doesn't fit my needd (I want smaller/lighter and a small 24mm prime as well as an EVF so if use digital zoom for reach I still get a clear view). Last edited by Nicolas06; 07-17-2016 at 02:23 PM.

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07-12-2016, 08:50 PM	#2
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,846	Pretty dry stuff. Basic facts are useful, though there's so much more that a serious photographer would want to know. Nevertheless, it's good to see the K1 being taken seriously based on "objective" measures.

07-12-2016, 09:28 PM	#3
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,200	Interesting that they acknowledged the Astrotrace function of the K-1, but not pixel-shift. I'm sure DPR would dispute their finding in respect of the sports photography performance. This is what would be called a "desktop" review, as distinct from a "field" review.

07-12-2016, 09:49 PM	#4
joergens.mi Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 408	Interesting is also this Pentax K-1 vs Nikon D750 Detailed Comparison I don't understand why K-1 gets the second place here, but it is no problem (there is no bashing on this comparison) - Why is size 7 point difference? - What is the difference in features?

07-12-2016, 10:57 PM	#5
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,237	The D750 is typically a higher performance electronics device mounted into a disposable body in order to save costs. I used a D750, and the build quality has nothing to do with a K1. I told Nikon rep that it is a disposable camera, and he replies "well, that true, so are a lot of consumer electronics".

07-13-2016, 12:35 AM	#6
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,039	The D750 is a classic case of where a camera makes a big leap forward and gets (often justified) rave reviews at the time which are never modified as technology (fr instance sensors) improves, so when you compare and older camera with a newer one the older one tends to be over-rated by comparison - which isn't to say that it's a bad camera, just that (for instance), can it really be judged the same value for money as the K-1?

07-13-2016, 12:43 AM	#7
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,237	Originally posted by ffking The D750 is a classic case of where a camera makes a big leap forward and gets (often justified) rave reviews at the time which are never modified as technology (fr instance sensors) improves, so when you compare and older camera with a newer one the older one tends to be over-rated by comparison - which isn't to say that it's a bad camera, just that (for instance), can it really be judged the same value for money as the K-1? You are right. Review aren't absolute but relative. Last edited by biz-engineer; 07-13-2016 at 12:52 AM.

07-13-2016, 02:34 AM - 1 Like	#8
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,662	The D750 is a better camera if you need really good focus tracking and high frame rates and good buffer size. These are the sorts of things that neither the K-1 or the D810 are going to excel at.

07-13-2016, 11:22 AM	#9
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,237	Originally posted by Rondec The D750 is a better camera if you need really good focus tracking and high frame rates and good buffer size. These are the sorts of things that neither the K-1 or the D810 are going to excel at. I believe D750 AF is good, but 6.5 FPS is not a big step above K1, and the D750 buffer is no much better than K1 (https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison). Nikon create the D750 to compete with 5DIII and canon created the 6D to compete with the D600, none of those cameras are significantly faster than K1 and to getting into the sport DSLR category, you really to get a the D4,D5, 1D, 1Dx series that are 100% better than the general purpose D750/D810/5Ds/K1.

07-13-2016, 01:01 PM	#10
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,662	Originally posted by biz-engineer I believe D750 AF is good, but 6.5 FPS is not a big step above K1, and the D750 buffer is no much better than K1 (https://photographylife.com/nikon-dslr-buffer-capacity-comparison). Nikon create the D750 to compete with 5DIII and canon created the 6D to compete with the D600, none of those cameras are significantly faster than K1 and to getting into the sport DSLR category, you really to get a the D4,D5, 1D, 1Dx series that are 100% better than the general purpose D750/D810/5Ds/K1. True, but all those sports cameras are really expensive. I always thought the D750 was sold as a poor man's D4.

07-13-2016, 01:37 PM	#11
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,237	Originally posted by Rondec True, but all those sports cameras are really expensive. I always thought the D750 was sold as a poor man's D4. :-) yes !

07-19-2016, 08:27 AM	#13
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,237	Originally posted by Nicolas06 In France the D750 is 25% cheaper than K1, so that almost a free lens to get for the price. Maybe a sigma 24-70 f/2.8 or 24-105 f/4... Your behaviour is emotionally driven. What do you gain by promoting Nikon offering in Pentax forum? If you'd get a commission from Nikon , good for you, but if not, you better keep silent about promoting other brands. When you promote Nikon offering, all it does, indirectly, it destroys the value of your own Pentax gear. If you own Pentax gear, try to avoid destroying your own value. We don't ask you to promote Pentax, but at least you can keep quiet, and it is ethical to do so. Some other people have said all the good of Pentax in order to sell it and purchased Nikon in the meantime. You're just doing the opposite, i.e keepting Pentax gear and criticizing the brand at the same time, at best this will do nothing to you and at worst this will hurt you. What benefit do you get out of openly showing how better is Nikon offering?

07-19-2016, 08:48 AM	#14
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	25% cheaper... is this from Rakuten? (i.e. import goods)

07-19-2016, 10:54 AM	#15
Gimbal Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,106	Originally posted by biz-engineer Your behaviour is emotionally driven. What do you gain by promoting Nikon offering in Pentax forum? If you'd get a commission from Nikon , good for you, but if not, you better keep silent about promoting other brands. When you promote Nikon offering, all it does, indirectly, it destroys the value of your own Pentax gear. If you own Pentax gear, try to avoid destroying your own value. We don't ask you to promote Pentax, but at least you can keep quiet, and it is ethical to do so. Some other people have said all the good of Pentax in order to sell it and purchased Nikon in the meantime. You're just doing the opposite, i.e keepting Pentax gear and criticizing the brand at the same time, at best this will do nothing to you and at worst this will hurt you. What benefit do you get out of openly showing how better is Nikon offering? I don't agree with you here biz-engineer. People who hide facts or "forget" to mention them because they make the opposite side look good is imho people you can't trust. That means the majority of salesmen for instance, can't trust them.