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08-18-2016, 04:20 AM   #31
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QuoteOriginally posted by pacerr Quote
As close to the old H1a or Spotmatic experience as you're likely to get with a DSLR.
It goes back in time even further than that - remember, the M42's are full-time manual-stopdown on DSLRs, so in fact you are going back to the days even before the Auto-Takumars!! At least with the Spotmatic you only had to close it down to meter whenever the light changed appreciably... (but even that was painful enough that I eventually bought a Spotmatic F to go with all the Takumar lenses I'd originally bought to try out on my K-5...).

Alas by the time I'd pulled my finger out and sent my dead *istDL in for repair, hoping to make it a Takumar camera, they told me the circuit board which needed replacing was unavailable. RIP, little camera; you served me well.

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K10d is good to keep in the car with a WR lens, an emergency cam.Just check batteries from time to time.
*ist DS I would donate to someone, but K20D is good to keep in the car. I have K200D for that reason in my car.
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... the M42's are full-time manual-stopdown on DSLRs, so in fact you are going back to the days even before the Auto-Takumars!! At least with the Spotmatic you only had to close it down to meter whenever the light changed appreciably...
Yep! Perhaps I'm still stuck in the era of stick-shift transmissions and dial telephones but I've not succumbed to the habit of coupling focusing and metering to the shutter button. I've always considered it 'normal' to meter and evaluate the scene then open wide to focus and close down again to shoot -- or vice versa as the situation demanded.

To me, the value of TTL metering is the ability to clearly see what's being evaluated through the lens including any added accessories, not to tie it to the instant of exposure.

It also seems silly to me to be able to set a 1/2-stop EV bias then slew a sophisticated metering mode through the scene without knowing exactly what it's 'seeing'. A long-term intentional bias may be done with ISO input (as Weston and Seconic intended ).
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nothing wrong with a stick shift transmission. My wife likes her automatic, but I prefer to have changed down before I stamp on the accelerator.

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I have a *istD, a k100d super, a k10, a k20 ... I use all of them and each of them has its own "personality", every CCD or CMOS responds differently,so i choose one camera or another as in the analogic era we chose different film

that's all
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Last evening I took some family photos using the Pentax ist ds
The lens was one I don't use often, being the SMC Pentax -M Zoom 1:2.8 ~ 4 40 ~ 80mm

I have the camera set to just produce camera jpgs of 2400 by 1600.

The results were quite good.

So this morning I did a comparison using the crash test dummy under the badminton net,
between the above Pentax and my Olympus M43 with its basic kit lens, the M.ZuikoDigital 14 ~ 42mm 1:3.5~ 5.6
The Pentax lens is ~ 37 years old and the Olympus lens is ~ 5 years old

I have been tending to use the Oly more for family photos because it is so easy to use,
also my son is starting to learn on it.

Here is the Pentax -M Zoom, all wide open and the camera was in Manual at iso 200 and 1/350th for all, and using focus confirmation.
From wide to macro:
https://app.box.com/s/6nyd6nqgxu1uu44vtosuuhz82hwd1aah
https://app.box.com/s/ltyyjwapgbxtrcnwi0qhjqspd926xazr
https://app.box.com/s/vo5jv19a8jlfcuj520s1iezs2c337285
https://app.box.com/s/wz5dyhw8gswo0mgrkw2oukhnaqz6vfuv
https://app.box.com/s/crmj1qxgjw5ii73a7sxfrc6qbw4ytto6

Here is the Olympus Zoom set in Auto. ( Auto focus and auto iso) It tended to set the lens at f/5.6.
From wide to as close as the Oly lens would focus:
https://app.box.com/s/1ys7gdqepo06yo0yvsj9hud18y6o2c1y
https://app.box.com/s/tu0qtdnjtiq8wtf0oio1kxpkelqq2ju0
https://app.box.com/s/8nbs7wmyy3w1cuoqe0ffk4110j4yhtxl
https://app.box.com/s/xxbtmgrx8fmh85ox52ojnb1zgp4l3813
https://app.box.com/s/uhn2xu5qb9ydxbg8d2neuf9flffgeswd


The Pentax lens gives better background differentiation for this type of photo, as we would expect.
The macro photo shows some color abberation

The Oly Auto mode has overexposed the close in exposures.
I usually use it in Auto focus and Manual exposure.

The vintage Pentax with the -M lens is more difficult to use than the M43, but I am fairly sure with more use
with this Pentax lens, my photos would still be better than with the M43 kit lens.
However there are better, wider aperture, M43 lenses than the old kit lens I have.

And let the vintage Pentax dslrs live on!

ps The Takumar 135mm lens hood shown in the photo is OK on the ist ds but no good on the full 35mm.
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