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08-21-2016, 05:49 AM   #1
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So who is upgrading from a K-S2 to a K70?

Hello everyone,
As the title states, I am wondering how many folks are upgrading from the K-S2 to the K70?

Is there enough of a difference to justify it?

I am sure tempted.

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Man, I'm still on K-r
Justification is very subjective. If I had a K-S2, I would not be getting a K-70 but would rather wait for the next generation, or a higher tier (K-3 or whatever its successor will be)
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QuoteOriginally posted by Na Horuk Quote
Man, I'm still on K-r
And I was about to say I'm still on my K-30, but you beat me by a bit

Not upgrading. K-30 is sweet.
I'd get what, no aa filter and more megapickles, pixel shift... movie af doesn't matter because i've only got screwdrive lenses and the video quality hasn't improved. mic jack? Well, since I don't want to use it to film anyways... Flip screen, yes, I'd like that. One thing i'd like.

I'm good for now
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QuoteOriginally posted by sarge Quote
I am wondering how many folks are upgrading from the K-S2 to the K70?

Is there enough of a difference to justify it?

I am sure tempted.
When a new, improved model comes out, it's always tempting However, I would recommend that you stick with the K-S2 unless you feel it's limiting you in some way that the K-70 wouldn't.

Some time ago, I upgraded from a K-5 to the K-3, but I kept my K-5 as a backup, and to use with adapted lenses. Technically, the K-3 is "better" in many ways, but I find myself continuing to use the K-5 just as much as I ever did, alongside the K-3. Honestly, for a lot of my photography, there isn't a significant advantage to shooting with the newer camera. Greater resolution? Yes... Better AF? Sure... Nicer control layout for back-button focusing? Definitely. Twin SD card capability? Great... But none of that really matters for most of what I shoot.

Looking back, there was absolutely no need for me to buy the K-3 or K-3II I now own... other than to satisfy an eternal "new toy" lust. As I'm gaining experience, I'm realising more and more that lenses are far more important than the cameras they're attached to.

If you really want the K-70, go for it... but don't think it will measurably improve your photography. Any gains in image quality will be marginal, and almost none-existent when viewed at normal sizes

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QuoteOriginally posted by sarge Quote
Hello everyone,
As the title states, I am wondering how many folks are upgrading from the K-S2 to the K70?

Is there enough of a difference to justify it?

I am sure tempted.
I'm glad I waited enough to skip the K-S2 & go for the K-70.

I don't think there is enough difference to justify an upgrade.

Maybe it would have been if the K-70 would have had an
- upgraded AF system which is better for tracking - say a 19 point AF system.
- 1-2 more number of dedicated buttons
- touch screen interfacing (this feature on it's own would have contributed as a big reason to many entry level users for an upgrade.)
- have flash commander enabled & composition adjustment enabled.
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The 14-bit raw makes me a bit jealous, same with pixel shift.

Seemed to me that there was little notice about this new K-70. I remember reading the rumour and it felt like the next week it was released! If I would have known I would have waited.

Wife wouldn't be happy if I bought another camera so soon after buying my K-S2, haha.
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I have a K-3 II now and we use both the K-3II and the K-S2 for wedding shoots. I am looking at the K70 mainly for the fact that it uses the same sensor as the K-3II.
14 bit RAW vs 12 bit is big for me.
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QuoteOriginally posted by FozzFoster Quote
The 14-bit raw makes me a bit jealous, same with pixel shift.
With a well-exposed shot, 14-bit raw will have little (if any) noticeable advantage. Where you would notice it is in under-exposed shadow areas when pushing them to the extreme - the detail would suffer because there just isn't enough information there. But in 99.99% of cases, it really wouldn't make any appreciable difference.

Pixel shift is nice, but it has a very limited set of legitimate use cases. It's great fun to play with initially, but for the majority of photography, it's either not a suitable method (because of moving subject matter) or more trouble than it's worth. There are certain situations where it can work well... product photography, still life, landscapes on an extremely still (no wind) day... But in most day-to-day shooting, I've not found it to be especially practical.

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QuoteOriginally posted by FozzFoster Quote
The 14-bit raw makes me a bit jealous, same with pixel shift.

Seemed to me that there was little notice about this new K-70. I remember reading the rumour and it felt like the next week it was released! If I would have known I would have waited.

Wife wouldn't be happy if I bought another camera so soon after buying my K-S2, haha.
have a look here.......

14-bit vs 12-bit RAW Can You Tell The Difference?
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QuoteOriginally posted by BigMackCam Quote
With a well-exposed shot, 14-bit raw will have little (if any) noticeable advantage. Where you would notice it is in under-exposed shadow areas when pushing them to the extreme - the detail would suffer because there just isn't enough information there. But in 99.99% of cases, it really wouldn't make any appreciable difference.

Pixel shift is nice, but it has a very limited set of legitimate use cases. It's great fun to play with initially, but for the majority of photography, it's either not a suitable method (because of moving subject matter) or more trouble than it's worth. There are certain situations where it can work well... product photography, still life, landscapes on an extremely still (no wind) day... But in most day-to-day shooting, I've not found it to be especially practical.
There is one additional use for 14 bit and that is Astro. You get little enough light, so you wind up stacking multiple exposures. The stacking software does see a difference between 12 and 14 bit and does help it along.

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QuoteOriginally posted by interested_observer Quote
There is one additional use for 14 bit and that is Astro. You get little enough light, so you wind up stacking multiple exposures. The stacking software does see a difference between 12 and 14 bit and does help it along.

Yes, I can quite believe that. It's a fairly specialised use for most of us, but worth knowing in case that's a major interest...
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I'd upgrade from a K-30 or K-50, but probably not a K-S2 unless I was already pushing the limits of that camera.

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I have the K-S2 and might change to the K70, main reason being if it has better low light capability. I've bee downloading a few raw files trying to see if it is worth while. For the same reason I also think about the K-1, but there is the money difference.
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Looking at the specs, I would have a tough time justifying going from a K-S2 to a K-70... however, I don't have a K-S2, so it's just an opinion. I am upgrading my K-30 though... just waiting for the store to call and tell me it has arrived...
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QuoteOriginally posted by BigMackCam Quote
I would recommend that you stick with the K-S2 unless you feel it's limiting you in some way that the K-70 wouldn't.
as a generic rather than a specific comment, that's the advice I always give to anyone foolish enough to ask me - trying to follow my own advice has saved me a lot of money and frustration over the years.
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