My dilemma...

jmdeegan · 07-30-2008, 06:31 PM

Looking to see what folks think on this on..

Here's my issue. My k10d went to pentax for repairs last week. The gentleman on the phone before I shipped said most k bodies were being completed in under 10 business days currently. So I felt good.
I called today to get an idea, and the woman said 15-20 days, and all she can tell is my work is in process.

I leave for vacation next Saturday, so in business days, assuming that 15 days holds true, the camera won't be back to me before the trip begins.

So, here are my current thoughts.

1-How similar is the k200d to the k10d? Is it more like the k100d? I know it uses AA batteries, but I am more concerned with the layout-wheels etc. I had a k100d as a backup, and hated it compared to my k10d.

2-I could rent/buy a k20d and then sell either that or the k10d once vacation is over and the camera is back in my hands.

3-Relax, leave the dSLR at home, its a family vacation with little kids, 2 standard point and shoots plus an advanced point and shoot are good enough to capture the moments

I mention number 3 because, in all honesty, that may be the direction I take. Much as I want to take the kit, I don't know how often I'd get to use it. On the beaches, I'll be chasing at least one of my kids around. In the water, I have my olympus. And I doubt I will have much time to sneak off for photo opportunities.

The fourth option would be to track down a used k10d and pick that up as a spare even just for the trip....

but I could see things being fine without it.
(the next big trip after aruba is croatia, and the k10d should be back long before then.

two68s · 07-30-2008, 07:19 PM

Myself personally, I would choose #3. How often do you get to vacation with your family? Relax, enjoy your family and your vacation. Taking your DSLR and kit will only be one more thing to worry about.

drabina · 07-30-2008, 07:36 PM

I second the option #3 though it also depends where are you going. I was in Mexico early this year and while I did not want to carry my DSLR to the beach, I definitely took it on a trip to Chichen Itza.

jmdeegan · 07-30-2008, 07:41 PM

thats kinda the way im leaning.

part of it is, im really not pining for the k20, so the "excuse" isn't helpful to me, if that means much.

its one time fitting all the camera gear in my pocket should be fine

sewebster · 07-30-2008, 08:08 PM

If you are that unsure of wanting a DSLR, then I wouldn't buy one just to take there...

Look up the cost of renting, then you should be able to decide if it is worth it.

Though, I suppose if you figure you could buy a DSLR then sell it again for less of a loss than renting, maybe that's worth it, but a bunch of hassle.

Yep, depends on the trip. Some it would be worth a lot to get a good camera, others, not so much.

jmdeegan · 07-30-2008, 08:10 PM

sew-guessing you missed my initial blurb, or the sig.

i have one. mine is out of commision, and its a debate between replacing, or just using the point and shoots and actually relaxing

woof · 07-30-2008, 08:23 PM

Leaning towards number 3, but for me I have no extra dollars to throw around these days.

Just got back from vacation. I got about 400 percent more on the Fuji Finepix S700 ($149.00) than on the K10D primarily because I was on the beach a lot and frankly didn't want the stress. Actually I had a great time translating everything I've learned with the K10D to the little FinePix... It sure has a lot of big boy features!

Anyway, either way, I hope it works out for you and that you get to relax and have a great time. The quality of your pics will reflect that no matter what you do!

woof!

Igilligan · 07-30-2008, 08:23 PM

If as you say you are not pining for the K20... then I agree with the others... just go with option 3. You are so limited in quality photo time on many beachy family vacations. Your focus is literally on the kids and not thru the camera most of the time... Sand/theft all possible problems that scream out for a small P&S option.

But as my good friend said to me on my last vacation. You bought that damn thing to use it didn't ya?
But since yours is away for repair(as is mine right now!) I think the p&s is a great simplification.

WMBP · 07-30-2008, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by jmdeegan

Looking to see what folks think on this on..

Here's my issue. My k10d went to pentax for repairs last week. The gentleman on the phone before I shipped said most k bodies were being completed in under 10 business days currently. So I felt good. I called today to get an idea, and the woman said 15-20 days, and all she can tell is my work is in process.

I don't know WHY they keep cameras for so long but they do. Look for after about four weeks.

Quote:

1-How similar is the k200d to the k10d? Is it more like the k100d? I know it uses AA batteries, but I am more concerned with the layout-wheels etc. I had a k100d as a backup, and hated it compared to my k10d.

Then you would not like the K200D either. It's basically a K10D sensor in the body (and with the ergonomics) of the K100D. Personally, I have never understood the point of the K200D. They should dropped the K100D, kept the K10D in production and added the K20D to the line. But they didn't ask me.

Quote:

2-I could rent/buy a k20d and then sell either that or the k10d once vacation is over and the camera is back in my hands.

Nah.

Quote:

3-Relax, leave the dSLR at home, its a family vacation with little kids, 2 standard point and shoots plus an advanced point and shoot are good enough to capture the moments.

Well, there is always that option. If that works for you, then great!

It's possibilities like this that make it essential for me (at least) to have more than one good camera. On a trip to NYC recently, I felt a bit nervous about taking the K20D so I took the K10D instead. Sometimes I just grab the *ist DS.

Will

Igilligan · 07-30-2008, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by Igilligan

If as you say you are not pining for the K20... then I agree with the others... just go with option 3. You are so limited in quality photo time on many beachy family vacations. Your focus is literally on the kids and not thru the camera most of the time... Sand/theft all possible problems that scream out for a small P&S option.

But as my good friend said to me on my last vacation. You bought that damn thing to use it didn't ya?
But since yours is away for repair(as is mine right now!) I think the p&s is a great simplification.

I looked at my last "Beach" vacation photos. I only took the P&S's because I did not have the K100d. This is the snap from the wifes old Sony P200...
I am ok with it. They really are family memories...

Attachment 16269

sewebster · 07-30-2008, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by jmdeegan

sew-guessing you missed my initial blurb, or the sig.

i have one. mine is out of commision, and its a debate between replacing, or just using the point and shoots and actually relaxing

Sorry, guess I wasn't clear. I read your post. I meant that if you seemed unsure of wanting a DSLR _on the trip_... etc.

But yeah, my post wasn't really all that insightful anyway

pentaxbling · 07-30-2008, 11:38 PM

# 3 by far.... lol, take the money youd spend on a quick fix dslr and do something extra fun on your vacation!

jmdeegan · 07-31-2008, 09:20 AM

PB, nothing I could spend it on unless the wife finds a jeweler in Aruba. Not giving her any ideas LOL. My three are still too young to cost daddy that much on a vacation (now, ask me that after next year to WDW....)

I am going for the point and shoots. My wife already has a canon s5 advanced one, plus I just got her the Olympus 850 for pool and beach stuff. Ill tote along my 770 as well, since it's mine, i am a big fan of backups, and dammit I wanna have my own LOL.
3 Cameras...if it's not enough I'm in trouble..

cardinal43 · 07-31-2008, 09:53 AM

Well, seeing as how your K10d is in for repair, and you are going to the beach for rest and relaxation, and taking not 1, but 3 P&S, then let me be the first to offer to hold on to your lens for you (especially the 16-45 and the 50-135) while you are gone. After all, we don't want them to feel left out, now do we?

rfortson · 07-31-2008, 10:05 AM

#3 all the way, then buy the K20D when you get home.

Seriously, you'll be chasing kids around and having fun. Just enjoy the family and concentrate on taking some interesting shots with the P&S. They take great shots in most situations, so now's your time to concentrate on composition, not equipment.

07-30-2008, 06:31 PM	#1
jmdeegan Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: nyc Photos: Gallery Posts: 564	My dilemma... Looking to see what folks think on this on.. Here's my issue. My k10d went to pentax for repairs last week. The gentleman on the phone before I shipped said most k bodies were being completed in under 10 business days currently. So I felt good. I called today to get an idea, and the woman said 15-20 days, and all she can tell is my work is in process. I leave for vacation next Saturday, so in business days, assuming that 15 days holds true, the camera won't be back to me before the trip begins. So, here are my current thoughts. 1-How similar is the k200d to the k10d? Is it more like the k100d? I know it uses AA batteries, but I am more concerned with the layout-wheels etc. I had a k100d as a backup, and hated it compared to my k10d. 2-I could rent/buy a k20d and then sell either that or the k10d once vacation is over and the camera is back in my hands. 3-Relax, leave the dSLR at home, its a family vacation with little kids, 2 standard point and shoots plus an advanced point and shoot are good enough to capture the moments I mention number 3 because, in all honesty, that may be the direction I take. Much as I want to take the kit, I don't know how often I'd get to use it. On the beaches, I'll be chasing at least one of my kids around. In the water, I have my olympus. And I doubt I will have much time to sneak off for photo opportunities. The fourth option would be to track down a used k10d and pick that up as a spare even just for the trip.... but I could see things being fine without it. (the next big trip after aruba is croatia, and the k10d should be back long before then.

07-30-2008, 08:59 PM	#10
Igilligan Guest	Just to reinforce my option 3 choice... Originally posted by Igilligan If as you say you are not pining for the K20... then I agree with the others... just go with option 3. You are so limited in quality photo time on many beachy family vacations. Your focus is literally on the kids and not thru the camera most of the time... Sand/theft all possible problems that scream out for a small P&S option. But as my good friend said to me on my last vacation. You bought that damn thing to use it didn't ya? But since yours is away for repair(as is mine right now!) I think the p&s is a great simplification. I looked at my last "Beach" vacation photos. I only took the P&S's because I did not have the K100d. This is the snap from the wifes old Sony P200... I am ok with it. They really are family memories... Attachment 16269

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07-30-2008, 07:19 PM	#2
two68s Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 56	Myself personally, I would choose #3. How often do you get to vacation with your family? Relax, enjoy your family and your vacation. Taking your DSLR and kit will only be one more thing to worry about.

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drabina Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 525	I second the option #3 though it also depends where are you going. I was in Mexico early this year and while I did not want to carry my DSLR to the beach, I definitely took it on a trip to Chichen Itza.

07-30-2008, 07:41 PM	#4
jmdeegan Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: nyc Photos: Gallery Posts: 564 Original Poster	thats kinda the way im leaning. part of it is, im really not pining for the k20, so the "excuse" isn't helpful to me, if that means much. its one time fitting all the camera gear in my pocket should be fine

07-30-2008, 08:08 PM	#5
sewebster Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC Photos: Gallery Posts: 544	If you are that unsure of wanting a DSLR, then I wouldn't buy one just to take there... Look up the cost of renting, then you should be able to decide if it is worth it. Though, I suppose if you figure you could buy a DSLR then sell it again for less of a loss than renting, maybe that's worth it, but a bunch of hassle. Yep, depends on the trip. Some it would be worth a lot to get a good camera, others, not so much.

07-30-2008, 08:10 PM	#6
jmdeegan Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: nyc Photos: Gallery Posts: 564 Original Poster	sew-guessing you missed my initial blurb, or the sig. i have one. mine is out of commision, and its a debate between replacing, or just using the point and shoots and actually relaxing

07-30-2008, 08:23 PM	#7
woof Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In the present Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,870	Leaning towards number 3, but for me I have no extra dollars to throw around these days. Just got back from vacation. I got about 400 percent more on the Fuji Finepix S700 ($149.00) than on the K10D primarily because I was on the beach a lot and frankly didn't want the stress. Actually I had a great time translating everything I've learned with the K10D to the little FinePix... It sure has a lot of big boy features! Anyway, either way, I hope it works out for you and that you get to relax and have a great time. The quality of your pics will reflect that no matter what you do! woof!

07-30-2008, 08:29 PM	#9
WMBP Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,482	Originally posted by jmdeegan Looking to see what folks think on this on.. Here's my issue. My k10d went to pentax for repairs last week. The gentleman on the phone before I shipped said most k bodies were being completed in under 10 business days currently. So I felt good. I called today to get an idea, and the woman said 15-20 days, and all she can tell is my work is in process. I don't know WHY they keep cameras for so long but they do. Look for after about four weeks. Quote: 1-How similar is the k200d to the k10d? Is it more like the k100d? I know it uses AA batteries, but I am more concerned with the layout-wheels etc. I had a k100d as a backup, and hated it compared to my k10d. Then you would not like the K200D either. It's basically a K10D sensor in the body (and with the ergonomics) of the K100D. Personally, I have never understood the point of the K200D. They should dropped the K100D, kept the K10D in production and added the K20D to the line. But they didn't ask me. Quote: 2-I could rent/buy a k20d and then sell either that or the k10d once vacation is over and the camera is back in my hands. Nah. Quote: 3-Relax, leave the dSLR at home, its a family vacation with little kids, 2 standard point and shoots plus an advanced point and shoot are good enough to capture the moments. Well, there is always that option. If that works for you, then great! It's possibilities like this that make it essential for me (at least) to have more than one good camera. On a trip to NYC recently, I felt a bit nervous about taking the K20D so I took the K10D instead. Sometimes I just grab the *ist DS. Will

07-30-2008, 10:31 PM	#11
sewebster Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC Photos: Gallery Posts: 544	Originally posted by jmdeegan sew-guessing you missed my initial blurb, or the sig. i have one. mine is out of commision, and its a debate between replacing, or just using the point and shoots and actually relaxing Sorry, guess I wasn't clear. I read your post. I meant that if you seemed unsure of wanting a DSLR _on the trip_... etc. But yeah, my post wasn't really all that insightful anyway

07-30-2008, 11:38 PM	#12
pentaxbling Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 141	# 3 by far.... lol, take the money youd spend on a quick fix dslr and do something extra fun on your vacation!

07-31-2008, 09:20 AM	#13
jmdeegan Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: nyc Photos: Gallery Posts: 564 Original Poster	PB, nothing I could spend it on unless the wife finds a jeweler in Aruba. Not giving her any ideas LOL. My three are still too young to cost daddy that much on a vacation (now, ask me that after next year to WDW....) I am going for the point and shoots. My wife already has a canon s5 advanced one, plus I just got her the Olympus 850 for pool and beach stuff. Ill tote along my 770 as well, since it's mine, i am a big fan of backups, and dammit I wanna have my own LOL. 3 Cameras...if it's not enough I'm in trouble..

07-31-2008, 09:53 AM	#14
cardinal43 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,412	Well, seeing as how your K10d is in for repair, and you are going to the beach for rest and relaxation, and taking not 1, but 3 P&S, then let me be the first to offer to hold on to your lens for you (especially the 16-45 and the 50-135) while you are gone. After all, we don't want them to feel left out, now do we?

07-31-2008, 10:05 AM	#15
rfortson Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Houston TX Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,129	#3 all the way, then buy the K20D when you get home. Seriously, you'll be chasing kids around and having fun. Just enjoy the family and concentrate on taking some interesting shots with the P&S. They take great shots in most situations, so now's your time to concentrate on composition, not equipment.