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MikeD · 12-07-2016, 08:26 PM

The K3 was announced Oct 7 of 2013, the K3II was announced April 22 of 2015 aren't we about due. As great as the K1 is it's burst rate is too slow for me. I need a tilt screen, KI style pixel shift, and better video 4k. Everything else about the K3II is acceptable even though I have other things on my wish list. .

JeffB · 12-07-2016, 09:07 PM - **1 Like**

Please, no tilt screen. Adds size, weight and complexity. Size and weight pain me now. Complexity pains me later when it breaks.

The Squirrel Mafia · 12-07-2016, 09:12 PM

Nothing has been leaked yet. My guess is that Pentax might let us know what's up sometime in February to April 2017. That's a maybe. It could also even be as far as October 2017 or even sometime in 2018. You never know with Pentax.

**microlight** · 12-07-2016, 09:19 PM

The K-3II already has pixel-shift...

mee · 12-07-2016, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by JeffB

Please, no tilt screen. Adds size, weight and complexity. Size and weight pain me now. Complexity pains me later when it breaks.

Tilt screen is one of my top 3 largest desires out of a new flagship Pentax camera. So I'm very much wanting to see this happen. It shouldn't break unless you do something that would break the camera anyways. And, if you keep it stationary, can pretend it doesn't even exist.

I'm hoping (but not expecting) a taller camera body too similar to the K-1. Big hands want a big camera to hold. But without the big price of full frame.

Not a Number · 12-07-2016, 09:30 PM

Why settle for 4k video when 8k is available?

**lithedreamer** · 12-07-2016, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by JeffB

Please, no tilt screen. Adds size, weight and complexity. Size and weight pain me now. Complexity pains me later when it breaks.

I'm confident in the K-1 style tilt screen mechanism. I've been able to carry around the K-1 + 70-200 by the the screen, so it seems sturdy enough. How much weight does it add? If you're pinching pounds and size that hard, mirrorless might be the way to go.

JeffB · 12-07-2016, 09:50 PM

If you want a tilt screen, mirrorless is clearly the way to go. Tilt screen usefulness is pretty much limited to "live-view" and that implementation on SLR is rather poor. MIrrorless is live-view all the time.

stillshot2 · 12-07-2016, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by lithedreamer

I've been able to carry around the K-1 + 70-200 by the the screen

Wow! That's impressive. And risky!

Adam · 12-07-2016, 10:14 PM

About due for sure!

Cynog Ap Brychan · 12-08-2016, 06:52 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by JeffB

If you want a tilt screen, mirrorless is clearly the way to go. Tilt screen usefulness is pretty much limited to "live-view" and that implementation on SLR is rather poor. MIrrorless is live-view all the time.

I disagree (to some extent). I find the tilt screen on the K-1 most useful when I'm taking macro and close up photos in my studio, especially when I'm using the camera in portrait mode when the small amount of tilt available saves me having to bend over too far. At my age, that's important! I've never used the tilt on any other occasions.

normhead · 12-08-2016, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by JeffB

Please, no tilt screen. Adds size, weight and complexity. Size and weight pain me now. Complexity pains me later when it breaks.

Taken with the aid of the tilt screen, with the camera near ground level... I rest my case.

If you are really opposed to weight, something like a Panasonic FZ1000 should be right up your alley, or any of the 4/3 cameras. It's an APS-c or FF DSLR you should be avoiding, not a tilt screen

MikeD · 12-08-2016, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by microlight

The K-3II already has pixel-shift...

I know it has pixel shift but not like the KI which can deal with some movement

BrianR · 12-08-2016, 09:37 AM

I kinda expect the K1's tilty screen to make it on the next flagship aps-c, but I guess who knows? Most of my uses for it (studio stills, forest floor macros) could be handled with polished WiFi tethering to a smartphone or tablet. I'm sure I'd use both options if they were available

Originally posted by MikeD

I know it has pixel shift but not like the KI which can deal with some movement

Can't this be handled by the software? ... https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/172-pentax-k-3/321244-pixel-shift-motion-...ion-k-3ii.html

Not a Number · 12-08-2016, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by MikeD

I know it has pixel shift but not like the KI which can deal with some movement

According to an interview with one of the Ricoh engineers (Japanese website, I posted links elsewhere) the K3ii has the same motion correction capabilities as the K-1 using the same algorithms. The only difference (at the time of the interview) was that MC could not be turned off on the K3ii menus. This may or may have changed with a firmware update. I seem to recall a few posts that confirm that MC is active on the K3ii. MC seems to work better on the K-1 probably due to differences in the sensor since the claim is the same algorithms are in use.

12-07-2016, 08:26 PM	#1
MikeD Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: traverse city MI Posts: 346	Aren't we about due for a K3II upgrade. The K3 was announced Oct 7 of 2013, the K3II was announced April 22 of 2015 aren't we about due. As great as the K1 is it's burst rate is too slow for me. I need a tilt screen, KI style pixel shift, and better video 4k. Everything else about the K3II is acceptable even though I have other things on my wish list. .

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12-07-2016, 09:07 PM - 1 Like	#2
JeffB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 'Merica! Posts: 209	Please, no tilt screen. Adds size, weight and complexity. Size and weight pain me now. Complexity pains me later when it breaks.

12-07-2016, 09:12 PM	#3
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,058	Nothing has been leaked yet. My guess is that Pentax might let us know what's up sometime in February to April 2017. That's a maybe. It could also even be as far as October 2017 or even sometime in 2018. You never know with Pentax.

12-07-2016, 09:19 PM	#4
microlight Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,129	The K-3II already has pixel-shift...

12-07-2016, 09:23 PM	#5
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by JeffB Please, no tilt screen. Adds size, weight and complexity. Size and weight pain me now. Complexity pains me later when it breaks. Tilt screen is one of my top 3 largest desires out of a new flagship Pentax camera. So I'm very much wanting to see this happen. It shouldn't break unless you do something that would break the camera anyways. And, if you keep it stationary, can pretend it doesn't even exist. I'm hoping (but not expecting) a taller camera body too similar to the K-1. Big hands want a big camera to hold. But without the big price of full frame.

12-07-2016, 09:30 PM	#6
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	Why settle for 4k video when 8k is available?

12-07-2016, 09:41 PM	#7
lithedreamer Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,799	Originally posted by JeffB Please, no tilt screen. Adds size, weight and complexity. Size and weight pain me now. Complexity pains me later when it breaks. I'm confident in the K-1 style tilt screen mechanism. I've been able to carry around the K-1 + 70-200 by the the screen, so it seems sturdy enough. How much weight does it add? If you're pinching pounds and size that hard, mirrorless might be the way to go.

12-07-2016, 09:50 PM	#8
JeffB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 'Merica! Posts: 209	If you want a tilt screen, mirrorless is clearly the way to go. Tilt screen usefulness is pretty much limited to "live-view" and that implementation on SLR is rather poor. MIrrorless is live-view all the time.

12-07-2016, 09:55 PM	#9
stillshot2 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Phoenix, AZ Photos: Albums Posts: 1,070	Originally posted by lithedreamer I've been able to carry around the K-1 + 70-200 by the the screen Wow! That's impressive. And risky!

12-08-2016, 06:52 AM - 1 Like	#11
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by JeffB If you want a tilt screen, mirrorless is clearly the way to go. Tilt screen usefulness is pretty much limited to "live-view" and that implementation on SLR is rather poor. MIrrorless is live-view all the time. I disagree (to some extent). I find the tilt screen on the K-1 most useful when I'm taking macro and close up photos in my studio, especially when I'm using the camera in portrait mode when the small amount of tilt available saves me having to bend over too far. At my age, that's important! I've never used the tilt on any other occasions.

12-08-2016, 07:18 AM	#12
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by JeffB Please, no tilt screen. Adds size, weight and complexity. Size and weight pain me now. Complexity pains me later when it breaks. Taken with the aid of the tilt screen, with the camera near ground level... I rest my case. If you are really opposed to weight, something like a Panasonic FZ1000 should be right up your alley, or any of the 4/3 cameras. It's an APS-c or FF DSLR you should be avoiding, not a tilt screen

12-08-2016, 09:16 AM	#13
MikeD Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: traverse city MI Posts: 346 Original Poster	Originally posted by microlight The K-3II already has pixel-shift... I know it has pixel shift but not like the KI which can deal with some movement

12-08-2016, 09:37 AM	#14
BrianR Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,332	I kinda expect the K1's tilty screen to make it on the next flagship aps-c, but I guess who knows? Most of my uses for it (studio stills, forest floor macros) could be handled with polished WiFi tethering to a smartphone or tablet. I'm sure I'd use both options if they were available Originally posted by MikeD I know it has pixel shift but not like the KI which can deal with some movement Can't this be handled by the software? ... https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/172-pentax-k-3/321244-pixel-shift-motion-...ion-k-3ii.html

12-08-2016, 09:38 AM	#15
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	Originally posted by MikeD I know it has pixel shift but not like the KI which can deal with some movement According to an interview with one of the Ricoh engineers (Japanese website, I posted links elsewhere) the K3ii has the same motion correction capabilities as the K-1 using the same algorithms. The only difference (at the time of the interview) was that MC could not be turned off on the K3ii menus. This may or may have changed with a firmware update. I seem to recall a few posts that confirm that MC is active on the K3ii. MC seems to work better on the K-1 probably due to differences in the sensor since the claim is the same algorithms are in use.

Aren't we about due for a K3II upgrade.

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