Goodbye Pentax

normhead · 02-10-2017, 02:06 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by eddie1960

My K10 came with tethering software and worked right out of the box, it's only after the K20 when Hoya was in cost cutting mode to break up the company that it went .

One of my buddies who shot commercial in Toronto, mostly catalogues, it was his bread and butter. With the art director on the other end of the tether via modem, changes were made with the model still in the room, instant reshoots. It took weeks off the amount of time it took to produce a catalogue, with no sending proofs back and forth. My buddy retired at 50 years old with over a million in the bank. (Of course most of that came from selling his studio, which was possible because he was doing in 6 weeks what used to take all year and he could just rent studio space for that. Also reduced his paid staff from 6 to 2, him and an executive assistent.)

How are you non-tethered guys doing?

To say folks can get along without tethering, is just plain wrong. Maybe some folks can, but it's worth paying for, for a lot of people. Like most I'm cool without it. But then I have this friend......

EdMaximus · 02-10-2017, 03:41 PM

The funny thing is I hate tethering when it comes to shooting my own work. But not having it when needed definitely cost a lot... Every shoot from this job I missed out on was enough to pay my rent and other monthly bills. The showroom has their own in-house retoucher/digitech. So all I had to do is show up with two assistants to set up sets, shoot, and turn over the low res files at the end of the day. The next day, they would send me their selection so I could give their retoucher the high res.

Originally posted by normhead

One of my buddies who shot commercial in Toronto, mostly catalogues, it was his bread and butter. With the art director on the other end of the tether via modem, changes were made with the model still in the room, instant reshoots. It took weeks off the amount of time it took to produce a catalogue, with no sending proofs back and forth. My buddy retired at 50 years old with over a million in the bank. (Of course most of that came from selling his studio, which was possible because he was doing in 6 weeks what used to take all year and he could just rent studio space for that. Also reduced his paid staff from 6 to 2, him and an executive assistent.)

How are you non-tethered guys doing?

To say folks can get along without tethering, is just plain wrong. Maybe some folks can, but it's worth paying for, for a lot of people. Like most I'm cool without it. But then I have this friend......

biz-engineer · 02-11-2017, 01:08 AM

Originally posted by Nicolas06

I don't think Pentax is especially deficient. Tethering is a specific requirement that I couldn't care less. But for a few people that's their bread and butter. They just need the right tool for the job.

That's it.

**robgski** · 02-11-2017, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by EdMaximus

But not having it when needed definitely cost a lot... Every shoot from this job I missed out on was enough to pay my rent and other monthly bills

Sounds like a good reason to switch, at least for the paying studio jobs. Best of luck.

dfp771 · 02-11-2017, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by normhead

One of my buddies who shot commercial in Toronto, mostly catalogues, it was his bread and butter. With the art director on the other end of the tether via modem, changes were made with the model still in the room, instant reshoots. It took weeks off the amount of time it took to produce a catalogue, with no sending proofs back and forth. My buddy retired at 50 years old with over a million in the bank. (Of course most of that came from selling his studio, which was possible because he was doing in 6 weeks what used to take all year and he could just rent studio space for that. Also reduced his paid staff from 6 to 2, him and an executive assistent.)

How are you non-tethered guys doing?

To say folks can get along without tethering, is just plain wrong. Maybe some folks can, but it's worth paying for, for a lot of people. Like most I'm cool without it. But then I have this friend......

As I said in a previous post, I shoot tethered now. In a studio working with a team of people it just makes sense to try to get the best shot right away. While I focus on lighting, the model can see other issues ( hair, makeup) and if I have a stylist or MUA, even better. I think, when working with a team of people, tethering makes you a better photographer. I use the K-1 and 4 primes- Samyang 24mm F1.4, Pentax 31mm, Pentax 77mm, Rokinon 135mm F2. For macro work, I have a 15 year old Tamron 90mm F2.8. For location work I don't shoot tethered- yet.

EdMaximus · 05-19-2017, 02:40 PM - **5 Likes**

It's been a while but I thought I would update this thread. I'm still using Pentax. After renting a 5D MkIV a few times, I keep finding myself going back to the K1. The 5DIV is a fantastic camera with better focus and better tethering support but it just doesn't feel right in my hand for some reason.

I went on a whim and bought the Image Transmitter 2 software to see if it could be a passable solution. Using it on its own wasn't... But when I pair it with Lightroom or C1, it does the job. Transfer speed is an issue as expected, specially since I always shoot raw.To mitigate that, I set up the camera to shoot both Jpeg and Raw. In IT2, I selected for it to transfer the jpeg but save the Raw files in the card. This method works for now. If a gig demands more, I'll stick with renting another system...

Angel Perez · 05-20-2017, 03:33 AM

Ed that is great news to hear! Looks like you have a great respect for the Canon, but it seems to be missing that certain "je ne sais quoi".
I don't have a need to shoot tethered, but I am wondering, why not just shoot with the HDMI cable connected to a monitor? It's not the same as being tethered to lightroom or capture one, but it will allow you to preview your shots on a larger monitor. I tried it once, but was so used to looking at my back LCD that I was mainly fumbling, but found that it could be useful to go over a few pictures with my model to discuss a few concepts. Just a thought.

Really excited to know you are sticking with Pentax. You are hipster, and no matter what you try to do, you can't shake it.

Looking forward to seeing more great work from you.

ChristianRock · 05-22-2017, 08:24 AM

I am glad to hear it, too. Because I do think Pentax is a great company, albeit being a small player, and hope they will release a truly pro camera with things like tethering taken care of - but in the meantime creative people like you are making it work for your situation.

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02-10-2017, 02:06 PM - 1 Like	#61
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,420	Originally posted by eddie1960 My K10 came with tethering software and worked right out of the box, it's only after the K20 when Hoya was in cost cutting mode to break up the company that it went . One of my buddies who shot commercial in Toronto, mostly catalogues, it was his bread and butter. With the art director on the other end of the tether via modem, changes were made with the model still in the room, instant reshoots. It took weeks off the amount of time it took to produce a catalogue, with no sending proofs back and forth. My buddy retired at 50 years old with over a million in the bank. (Of course most of that came from selling his studio, which was possible because he was doing in 6 weeks what used to take all year and he could just rent studio space for that. Also reduced his paid staff from 6 to 2, him and an executive assistent.) How are you non-tethered guys doing? To say folks can get along without tethering, is just plain wrong. Maybe some folks can, but it's worth paying for, for a lot of people. Like most I'm cool without it. But then I have this friend......

02-10-2017, 03:41 PM	#62
EdMaximus Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York Posts: 318 Original Poster	The funny thing is I hate tethering when it comes to shooting my own work. But not having it when needed definitely cost a lot... Every shoot from this job I missed out on was enough to pay my rent and other monthly bills. The showroom has their own in-house retoucher/digitech. So all I had to do is show up with two assistants to set up sets, shoot, and turn over the low res files at the end of the day. The next day, they would send me their selection so I could give their retoucher the high res. Originally posted by normhead One of my buddies who shot commercial in Toronto, mostly catalogues, it was his bread and butter. With the art director on the other end of the tether via modem, changes were made with the model still in the room, instant reshoots. It took weeks off the amount of time it took to produce a catalogue, with no sending proofs back and forth. My buddy retired at 50 years old with over a million in the bank. (Of course most of that came from selling his studio, which was possible because he was doing in 6 weeks what used to take all year and he could just rent studio space for that. Also reduced his paid staff from 6 to 2, him and an executive assistent.) How are you non-tethered guys doing? To say folks can get along without tethering, is just plain wrong. Maybe some folks can, but it's worth paying for, for a lot of people. Like most I'm cool without it. But then I have this friend......

02-11-2017, 01:08 AM	#63
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,135	Originally posted by Nicolas06 I don't think Pentax is especially deficient. Tethering is a specific requirement that I couldn't care less. But for a few people that's their bread and butter. They just need the right tool for the job. That's it.

02-11-2017, 06:11 AM	#64
robgski Pentaxian At Large Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Shenandoah Valley, Virginia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,694	Originally posted by EdMaximus But not having it when needed definitely cost a lot... Every shoot from this job I missed out on was enough to pay my rent and other monthly bills Sounds like a good reason to switch, at least for the paying studio jobs. Best of luck.

02-11-2017, 06:29 PM	#65
dfp771 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Monterey County, California Photos: Albums Posts: 97	Originally posted by normhead One of my buddies who shot commercial in Toronto, mostly catalogues, it was his bread and butter. With the art director on the other end of the tether via modem, changes were made with the model still in the room, instant reshoots. It took weeks off the amount of time it took to produce a catalogue, with no sending proofs back and forth. My buddy retired at 50 years old with over a million in the bank. (Of course most of that came from selling his studio, which was possible because he was doing in 6 weeks what used to take all year and he could just rent studio space for that. Also reduced his paid staff from 6 to 2, him and an executive assistent.) How are you non-tethered guys doing? To say folks can get along without tethering, is just plain wrong. Maybe some folks can, but it's worth paying for, for a lot of people. Like most I'm cool without it. But then I have this friend...... As I said in a previous post, I shoot tethered now. In a studio working with a team of people it just makes sense to try to get the best shot right away. While I focus on lighting, the model can see other issues ( hair, makeup) and if I have a stylist or MUA, even better. I think, when working with a team of people, tethering makes you a better photographer. I use the K-1 and 4 primes- Samyang 24mm F1.4, Pentax 31mm, Pentax 77mm, Rokinon 135mm F2. For macro work, I have a 15 year old Tamron 90mm F2.8. For location work I don't shoot tethered- yet.

05-19-2017, 02:40 PM - 5 Likes	#66
EdMaximus Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York Posts: 318 Original Poster	It's been a while but I thought I would update this thread. I'm still using Pentax. After renting a 5D MkIV a few times, I keep finding myself going back to the K1. The 5DIV is a fantastic camera with better focus and better tethering support but it just doesn't feel right in my hand for some reason. I went on a whim and bought the Image Transmitter 2 software to see if it could be a passable solution. Using it on its own wasn't... But when I pair it with Lightroom or C1, it does the job. Transfer speed is an issue as expected, specially since I always shoot raw.To mitigate that, I set up the camera to shoot both Jpeg and Raw. In IT2, I selected for it to transfer the jpeg but save the Raw files in the card. This method works for now. If a gig demands more, I'll stick with renting another system...

05-20-2017, 03:33 AM	#67
Angel Perez Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 155	Ed that is great news to hear! Looks like you have a great respect for the Canon, but it seems to be missing that certain "je ne sais quoi". I don't have a need to shoot tethered, but I am wondering, why not just shoot with the HDMI cable connected to a monitor? It's not the same as being tethered to lightroom or capture one, but it will allow you to preview your shots on a larger monitor. I tried it once, but was so used to looking at my back LCD that I was mainly fumbling, but found that it could be useful to go over a few pictures with my model to discuss a few concepts. Just a thought. Really excited to know you are sticking with Pentax. You are hipster, and no matter what you try to do, you can't shake it. Looking forward to seeing more great work from you.

05-22-2017, 08:24 AM	#68
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,361	I am glad to hear it, too. Because I do think Pentax is a great company, albeit being a small player, and hope they will release a truly pro camera with things like tethering taken care of - but in the meantime creative people like you are making it work for your situation.

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