K3ii replacement 36mp?

RonHendriks1966 · 02-19-2017, 03:37 AM

Originally posted by beachgardener

my prediction is that we will see the K-3II replacement 12 months from now

That is 2018. Well I expected only one new camera this year, so with KP we reached that goal.

mee · 02-19-2017, 06:32 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by beachgardener

my prediction is that we will see the K-3II replacement 12 months from now

If you're wrong, do I get to give you a noogie?

**clackers** · 02-19-2017, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by amp

Just as the title asks...do you think the K3ii replacement will have 36mp's, or any more for that matter? I know mps aren't everything, but I'm thinking about the ability to crop images and still retain amazing quality.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!

You wouldn't want it, Amp.

The more pixels you put on a wafer, the smaller they have to be.

You can end up gaining resolution but losing ISO performance.

Adam · 02-19-2017, 07:59 PM

Originally posted by tduell

Does anyone have any info on just how much better in noise performance the new gen 24Mp sensors are than the sensor in the K-3 II...and also how they compare with the sensor in the K-1?

Cheers,
Terry

Take a look at the K-70 review. The difference is real, especially in JPEG mode:

Pentax K-70 Review - Sharpness & Noise | PentaxForums.com Reviews

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**beachgardener** · 02-19-2017, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by mee

Originally posted by beachgardener Quote my prediction is that we will see the K-3II replacement 12 months from now

Originally posted by mee

If you're wrong, do I get to give you a noogie?

emm, should I be worried ?

what is a noogie?

amp · 02-20-2017, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by clackers

You wouldn't want it, Amp.

The more pixels you put on a wafer, the smaller they have to be.

You can end up gaining resolution but losing ISO performance.

Taking your wafer analogy a little bit farther, can one presume that you get roughly the same performance from a 24mp aps-c sensor as a FF 36mp sensor given their respective sizes?
Thanks for your time.

mee · 02-20-2017, 07:22 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by beachgardener

emm, should I be worried ?

Yes.

Originally posted by beachgardener

what is a noogie?

Muah ha ha ha haaa.

---------- Post added 02-20-17 at 08:32 AM ----------

Noogie.

WestBug · 02-20-2017, 09:10 AM

Nooooo ! 36MP ? God I Hope Not !

The Squirrel Mafia · 02-20-2017, 10:27 AM

I'd be happy with 24mp. I'd be happier with 20mp. There could even be a possibilty of 28mp. In the end it doesn't really matter for me as long as the AF has been improved.

The KP & K-70 have recieved major improvemnts in just about everything. The upcoming flagship will most likely have similar improvemnts & then some. Something tells me that it's going to be much improved over the K-3/3II. More than what the K-3/3II was to the K-5II/5IIs.

bxf · 02-20-2017, 11:16 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mee

If you're wrong, do I get to give you a noogie?

You have permission to give him one regardless

**beachgardener** · 02-20-2017, 01:23 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mee

Noogie.

Originally posted by bxf

You have permission to give him one regardless

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

**ffking** · 02-20-2017, 01:44 PM

Having produced the K-1 and the KP, Pentax need a bit of differentiation, so it would make more sense to chase faster burst rates and deeper buffers than more Mp - especially if they can further improve the AF - they're not going to compete in the sports camera arena - that's too tied up, regardless of how good a product they produce - but they should focus on a great wildlife camera, which should be about 24Mp with Pentax weather sealing, better high ISO and AF than the K-3 - plus decent video - wildlife people like to be able to have that option, and it's got to bet better or the brand loses credibility - makes it an easy target.

mee · 02-20-2017, 01:52 PM

The higher the pixel count, the higher the disk space required to hold that data.

**clackers** · 02-20-2017, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by amp

Taking your wafer analogy a little bit farther, can one presume that you get roughly the same performance from a 24mp aps-c sensor as a FF 36mp sensor given their respective sizes?
Thanks for your time.

No, when you crop the 36Mp you get 15-16Mp.

Anything more than that, you've had to make the pixels smaller.

avekaesar · 02-21-2017, 07:44 PM

Hi, do you think pentax would make the replacement for the pentax k3II camera this year?I am thinking to buy the K3II but if they are going to make the substitute I will wait.
Have you heard rumors?
Sorry for my English.

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02-19-2017, 03:37 AM	#16
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by beachgardener my prediction is that we will see the K-3II replacement 12 months from now That is 2018. Well I expected only one new camera this year, so with KP we reached that goal.

02-19-2017, 06:32 PM - 1 Like	#17
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by beachgardener my prediction is that we will see the K-3II replacement 12 months from now If you're wrong, do I get to give you a noogie?

02-19-2017, 07:22 PM	#18
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by amp Just as the title asks...do you think the K3ii replacement will have 36mp's, or any more for that matter? I know mps aren't everything, but I'm thinking about the ability to crop images and still retain amazing quality. Thanks in advance for your thoughts! You wouldn't want it, Amp. The more pixels you put on a wafer, the smaller they have to be. You can end up gaining resolution but losing ISO performance.

02-19-2017, 07:59 PM	#19
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,594	Originally posted by tduell Does anyone have any info on just how much better in noise performance the new gen 24Mp sensors are than the sensor in the K-3 II...and also how they compare with the sensor in the K-1? Cheers, Terry Take a look at the K-70 review. The difference is real, especially in JPEG mode: Pentax K-70 Review - Sharpness & Noise \| PentaxForums.com Reviews Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

02-19-2017, 10:31 PM	#20
beachgardener Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,842	Originally posted by mee Originally posted by beachgardener Quote my prediction is that we will see the K-3II replacement 12 months from now Originally posted by mee If you're wrong, do I get to give you a noogie? emm, should I be worried ? what is a noogie?

02-20-2017, 07:09 AM	#21
amp Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 168 Original Poster	Originally posted by clackers You wouldn't want it, Amp. The more pixels you put on a wafer, the smaller they have to be. You can end up gaining resolution but losing ISO performance. Taking your wafer analogy a little bit farther, can one presume that you get roughly the same performance from a 24mp aps-c sensor as a FF 36mp sensor given their respective sizes? Thanks for your time.

02-20-2017, 07:22 AM - 1 Like	#22
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by beachgardener emm, should I be worried ? Yes. Originally posted by beachgardener what is a noogie? Muah ha ha ha haaa. ---------- Post added 02-20-17 at 08:32 AM ---------- Noogie.

02-20-2017, 09:10 AM	#23
WestBug Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 93	Nooooo ! 36MP ? God I Hope Not !

02-20-2017, 10:27 AM	#24
The Squirrel Mafia Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,054	I'd be happy with 24mp. I'd be happier with 20mp. There could even be a possibilty of 28mp. In the end it doesn't really matter for me as long as the AF has been improved. The KP & K-70 have recieved major improvemnts in just about everything. The upcoming flagship will most likely have similar improvemnts & then some. Something tells me that it's going to be much improved over the K-3/3II. More than what the K-3/3II was to the K-5II/5IIs.

02-20-2017, 11:16 AM - 1 Like	#25
bxf Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Lisbon area Posts: 1,660	Originally posted by mee If you're wrong, do I get to give you a noogie? You have permission to give him one regardless

02-20-2017, 01:23 PM - 1 Like	#26
beachgardener Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,842	Originally posted by mee Noogie. Originally posted by bxf You have permission to give him one regardless Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

02-20-2017, 01:44 PM	#27
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Having produced the K-1 and the KP, Pentax need a bit of differentiation, so it would make more sense to chase faster burst rates and deeper buffers than more Mp - especially if they can further improve the AF - they're not going to compete in the sports camera arena - that's too tied up, regardless of how good a product they produce - but they should focus on a great wildlife camera, which should be about 24Mp with Pentax weather sealing, better high ISO and AF than the K-3 - plus decent video - wildlife people like to be able to have that option, and it's got to bet better or the brand loses credibility - makes it an easy target.

02-20-2017, 01:52 PM	#28
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	The higher the pixel count, the higher the disk space required to hold that data.

02-20-2017, 03:45 PM	#29
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by amp Taking your wafer analogy a little bit farther, can one presume that you get roughly the same performance from a 24mp aps-c sensor as a FF 36mp sensor given their respective sizes? Thanks for your time. No, when you crop the 36Mp you get 15-16Mp. Anything more than that, you've had to make the pixels smaller.

02-21-2017, 07:44 PM	#30
avekaesar New Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Photos: Gallery Posts: 7	Hi, do you think pentax would make the replacement for the pentax k3II camera this year?I am thinking to buy the K3II but if they are going to make the substitute I will wait. Have you heard rumors? Sorry for my English.