Originally posted by pathdoc A few things come to mind:
Volume requirements - where in a camera already crowded with necessary gear are you actually going to put it, and how are you going to lay the necessary wiring? By how much are you going to let an already fairly hefty camera grow? If you can't repack components around the new SSD (all of which eats up R&D time and money), you have to grow the camera, redesign the outer shell, completely retool the production line to build the new outer shell, and transfer the costs to the customers.
Weight requirements - when you're carrying it all day, every gram counts. And if the metallic outer shell expands, this pushes the weight up even further.
Power requirements - every additional thing you put into a DSLR eats milliamp hours.
Heat-sink requirements - these things get warm with use. You want to keep it far away from the sensor, or you need shielding, which gets back to the volume and packing issues mentioned above.
So... do you want a full-frame camera which is growing towards the size of a 645Z, when the current generation of mirrorless medium-format cameras is shrinking towards the size of a K-1?
Good points, but I'm not sure I agree/buy them:
- Volume: As I said, the "chip" is the same size or perhaps even smaller than an sd-card itself...removing one sd-card slot and the mechanics around it probably saves space instead, also the wiring is already there if using the same space, but probably could be optimized in a different way for even less space since it doesn't need to be accessible from the outside.
- Power: Maybe (or not) a bit more than an SD card, but since a whole highend SDD (EVO 850 for example) uses ~1.5w during write, we're probably talking less than half a watt here during write for one chip, and at other times milliamps, and then it's not even optimized for battery yet and could maybe be improved.
- Heat: Again, 0.5w wont produce any heat to talk about, far less than the sensor anyway.
So in this case I don't think that's the reason why
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Originally posted by Adam SD cards aren't the bottleneck when it comes to burst performance (as least in Pentax's case), but when the time comes UHS-II could always be used for much higher speeds.
Maybe not the card itself, but the storage system is (the burst rate goes down when the buffer fills, but with this you could store/offload the buffer faster than you can create data and thus never fill the bufffer)...the bus is slower than the cards today, but the bus can't be improved (after the camera leaves the factory) even if the cards are improved anyway so getting better cards in the future is except for storage size, usually never improving performance
Originally posted by Adam ]
As for why pro cameras don't have internal storage, I think that having a removable memory card adds a lot of flexibility and convenience, since this way you aren't forced to download photos when one card fills up, you can perform backups more easily, and you can store your media separately from the camera if desired. You can also use separate cards for separate shoots/lenses/customers and move them between different bodies as needed. Lastly, using external media is more future-proof since newer cards might exceed the camera's USB transfer rate.
Yes, that is what I meant with the last part, we could keep one of the two slots for this portability...but when you can store 6400 pics on just the internal memory, I think a lot of the usecases for it disappear (can wait till after the shoot (s)). (But agree that a number of usecases remain)
As for backup/offload I think we're thinking to much floppy-era think now...new usb or even wifi standards are much faster than even the fastest sd-cards now for offloading data so lets not put too much emphasis on "sneakernet" for data transfer (but yes, current Pentax cameras use almost 10 years old usb and wifi tech and are slower).
The last part I don't get "Lastly, using external media is more future-proof since newer cards might exceed the camera's USB transfer rate" - the camera wont be able to use that extra speed anyway then?
But in total I agree, there are some cases where 2 card slots are preferable, I'm just not certain those cases outweigh the advantages (for most) users?