Clear Plastic Body

Markh61133 · 09-21-2017, 04:22 PM

OK, so I was able to turn off the debugging with the PK_Tether however, the photos from this camera are very dark, even with the flash engaged its like the shutter is not synced with the flash or the light meter is not working properly. Could it be possible that the settings have been changed when the camera was in debugging mode? I have reset the camera several times but the photos still come out very dark unless I crank up the ISO to 1600. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Mark

photoptimist · 09-21-2017, 04:52 PM

The light meter is probably seeing ambient light through the clear prism housing and under-exposing the image significantly. You could test this hypothesis by covering the camera (all except for the lens) with a dark cloth and see if it gets a better picture.

Or if that does not work, try metering with another known-good camera and then setting the clear-camera with those settings in M-mode.

Good luck!

**monochrome** · 09-21-2017, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by darylk

The practical reason for not producing a clear bodied camera is pretty obvious. The body is one giant light leak flooding the sensor with uncontrolled stray light from all directions. That is unless the internal light box portion of the camera is left opaque.

I have a clear Store Demo SF1 (but not the matching F35~70 kit lens). Of course loading film would never work.

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**cpk** · 09-21-2017, 05:40 PM

Try using a hand-held meter. (Shades of the old days!)

timw4mail · 09-21-2017, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

I have a clear Store Demo SF1 (but not the matching F35~70 kit lens). Of course loading film would never work.

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I thought the clear ones would work with film, as long as you put a regular back on it?

**monochrome** · 09-21-2017, 08:28 PM

It seems to me there would be too much opportunity for light leaks.

MegaPower · 09-21-2017, 08:31 PM

so, it seems the camera cannot take picture without covering the shell.

E-man · 09-21-2017, 10:05 PM

That is wicked cool. Definitely a rarity among rarities.

Not a Number · 09-21-2017, 10:34 PM

No surprise that it doesn't expose properly I suppose.

But do try manual mode. You could always try the "sunny 16 rule" to set the exposure.

What gets me there is so little in the battery grip - and they charge how much for those?

**pentaxus** · 09-22-2017, 12:30 AM

In the days of film, these cameras were made so that you could take pictures with them as they were or by replacing the clear back with a standard back. I suspect this one will be fun to use.

09-21-2017, 04:52 PM	#17
photoptimist Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,122	The light meter is probably seeing ambient light through the clear prism housing and under-exposing the image significantly. You could test this hypothesis by covering the camera (all except for the lens) with a dark cloth and see if it gets a better picture. Or if that does not work, try metering with another known-good camera and then setting the clear-camera with those settings in M-mode. Good luck! Last edited by photoptimist; 09-21-2017 at 07:00 PM.

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09-21-2017, 04:22 PM	#16
Markh61133 New Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 5 Original Poster	OK, so I was able to turn off the debugging with the PK_Tether however, the photos from this camera are very dark, even with the flash engaged its like the shutter is not synced with the flash or the light meter is not working properly. Could it be possible that the settings have been changed when the camera was in debugging mode? I have reset the camera several times but the photos still come out very dark unless I crank up the ISO to 1600. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Mark

09-21-2017, 05:37 PM	#18
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by darylk The practical reason for not producing a clear bodied camera is pretty obvious. The body is one giant light leak flooding the sensor with uncontrolled stray light from all directions. That is unless the internal light box portion of the camera is left opaque. I have a clear Store Demo SF1 (but not the matching F35~70 kit lens). Of course loading film would never work. .

09-21-2017, 05:40 PM	#19
cpk Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Montreal Posts: 638	Try using a hand-held meter. (Shades of the old days!)

09-21-2017, 08:02 PM	#20
timw4mail Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Driving a Mirage Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,670	Originally posted by monochrome I have a clear Store Demo SF1 (but not the matching F35~70 kit lens). Of course loading film would never work. . I thought the clear ones would work with film, as long as you put a regular back on it?

09-21-2017, 08:28 PM	#21
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	It seems to me there would be too much opportunity for light leaks.

09-21-2017, 08:31 PM	#22
MegaPower Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hong Kong / Irvine, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 636	so, it seems the camera cannot take picture without covering the shell.

09-21-2017, 10:05 PM	#23
E-man Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 678	That is wicked cool. Definitely a rarity among rarities.

09-21-2017, 10:34 PM	#24
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	No surprise that it doesn't expose properly I suppose. But do try manual mode. You could always try the "sunny 16 rule" to set the exposure. What gets me there is so little in the battery grip - and they charge how much for those?

09-22-2017, 12:30 AM	#25
pentaxus Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Central Coast, CA Posts: 1,313	In the days of film, these cameras were made so that you could take pictures with them as they were or by replacing the clear back with a standard back. I suspect this one will be fun to use.

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