Dark viewfinder - bad lens ?

Hamiltom · 06-11-2018, 08:19 AM

I'm beginning to think the return spring for the iris has fallen off and jammed internally inside the lens. It obvious that from your further information that the contacts are fine. I believe the spring in that model is accessible be removing the mount, but I would advise against disassembly. The lens is not valuable enough to make it worthwhile.

The best solution is to file the claim (as you have done).

I would recommend a used Sigma 70-300 as a replacement and use the 18-55 kit lens to fill in the range if you want to keep the costs down.

Hope you have better luck in the future.

reh321 · 06-11-2018, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by Hamiltom

I'm beginning to think the return spring for the iris has fallen off and jammed internally inside the lens. It obvious that from your further information that the contacts are fine. I believe the spring in that model is accessible be removing the mount, but I would advise against disassembly. The lens is not valuable enough to make it worthwhile.

The best solution is to file the claim (as you have done).

I would recommend a used Sigma 70-300 as a replacement and use the 18-55 kit lens to fill in the range if you want to keep the costs down.

Hope you have better luck in the future.

I don't want to "kick someone when he is down", but a lesson all of us should learn from this adventure is to always try something as soon as you can, because there is a reasonable limitation on returns

**twilhelm** · 06-11-2018, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by reh321

I don't want to "kick someone when he is down", but a lesson all of us should learn from this adventure is to always try something as soon as you can, because there is a reasonable limitation on returns

Agreed. But I believe the OP stated the shipping of the lens was delayed to him. He may still have a legitimate claim, depending on how "delayed" it was.

LensBeginner · 06-11-2018, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by twilhelm

Agreed. But I believe the OP stated the shipping of the lens was delayed to him. He may still have a legitimate claim, depending on how "delayed" it was.

In cases like this I wonder if the delay was accidental or not...

madbrain · 06-11-2018, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by SSGGeezer

Good luck since it sounds like a poor seller. Was it fulfilled by Amazon or just linked through Amazon? I am very leery if it is not a fulfilled by Amazon product because of slow shipping and lousy customer service like this.

It was sold and shipped by the seller directly.

---------- Post added 06-11-18 at 12:52 PM ----------

Originally posted by LensBeginner

In cases like this I wonder if the delay was accidental or not...

Actually, it's my bad, it wasn't delayed, I recalled incorrectly.
Order was placed 5/7 . It was shipped 5/9 . Received 5/11 . I notified the seller of the problem with the lens through the Amazon system on 6/8, and he did not reply.
Filed my refund request 6/10. Was denied by seller 6/11, and filed A-Z then. I hope Amazon will approve it. If not, my next step would be to file a claim for purchase protection under my credit card.

LensBeginner · 06-11-2018, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by madbrain

Actually, it's my bad, it wasn't delayed, I recalled incorrectly.
Order was placed 5/7 . It was shipped 5/9 . Received 5/11 . I notified the seller of the problem with the lens through the Amazon system on 6/8, and he did not reply.
Filed my refund request 6/10. Was denied by seller 6/11, and filed A-Z then. I hope Amazon will approve it. If not, my next step would be to file a claim for purchase protection under my credit card.

That's why the general advice is to check items ASAP...

hope you get your money back, otherwise you could still try and disassemble it. If it's only a loose spring as Hamilton speculated, then it could be a relatively easy fix.

madbrain · 06-11-2018, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by LensBeginner

That's why the general advice is to check items ASAP...

hope you get your money back, otherwise you could still try and disassemble it. If it's only a loose spring as Hamilton speculated, then it could be a relatively easy fix.

I'm not mechanically inclined, so I think I would not attempt this. Hopefully A-Z claim will work.

LensBeginner · 06-11-2018, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by madbrain

I'm not mechanically inclined, so I think I would not attempt this. Hopefully A-Z claim will work.

I would have probably enjoyed disassembling it than shooting with it... I bought a K-30 with the aperture control block failure just to repair it.

Keep us posted

madbrain · 06-11-2018, 01:57 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by LensBeginner

I would have probably enjoyed disassembling it than shooting with it... I bought a K-30 with the aperture control block failure just to repair it.

Keep us posted

I will. I may end up getting the money back from credit card claim and keep the lens if they don't ask for it back, in which case you could have it for the cost of shipping.

LensBeginner · 06-11-2018, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by madbrain

I will. I may end up getting the money back from credit card claim and keep the lens if they don't ask for it back, in which case you could have it for the cost of shipping.

Hahaha thanks! though it might be a little bit impractical from San Jose California to Florence Italy (not Alabama, not Arizona, not Colorado, not South Carolina... I found out that there are more "Florence" in the USA than I thought! I was expecting to find only one...

)

reh321 · 06-11-2018, 02:13 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by LensBeginner

Florence Italy (not Alabama, not Arizona, not Colorado, not South Carolina... I found out that there are more "Florence" in the USA than I thought! I was expecting to find only one...

)

When people came to the USA, they brought their old names with them. In my state Indiana, we do have a few "native" names such as "Miami" and "Mishawaka". We have names of persons such as "Lasalle" and "Lafayette". We have 'constructed' names such as my home town of "South Bend". But we have lots of names that we imported such as "Bremen", "London", "Mexico" and "Peru".

LensBeginner · 06-11-2018, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by reh321

When people came to the USA, they brought their old names with them. In my state Indiana, we do have a few "native" names such as "Miami" and "Mishawaka". We have names of persons such as "Lasalle" and "Lafayette". We have 'constructed' names such as my home town of "South Bend". But we have lots of names that we imported such as "Bremen", "London", "Mexico" and "Peru".

There even are some which are become more famous and bigger than the "originals": New York, New Orleans, Boston... I just didn't expect to find that many!

**UncleVanya** · 06-11-2018, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by LensBeginner

Hahaha thanks! though it might be a little bit impractical from San Jose California to Florence Italy (not Alabama, not Arizona, not Colorado, not South Carolina... I found out that there are more "Florence" in the USA than I thought! I was expecting to find only one...

)

My wife will be there in the fall. You could hand if off and we could ship it when she returns... LOL. (Mostly kidding)

LensBeginner · 06-11-2018, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

My wife will be there in the fall. You could hand if off and we could ship it when she returns... LOL. (Mostly kidding)

Since it'll be in your hands, why don't you just keep it and try the disassembly yourself?

I already have an M 200/4 that needs fiddling with the infinity focus...

**UncleVanya** · 06-11-2018, 02:35 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by LensBeginner

Since it'll be in your hands, why don't you just keep it and try the disassembly yourself?

I already have an M 200/4 that needs fiddling with the infinity focus...

No time! I have no interest in a new hobby (fixing mechanically broken lenses) - I'm already converting lenses from SDM to screw drive for people. I have a day job too!

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06-11-2018, 08:19 AM	#16
Hamiltom Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 100	I'm beginning to think the return spring for the iris has fallen off and jammed internally inside the lens. It obvious that from your further information that the contacts are fine. I believe the spring in that model is accessible be removing the mount, but I would advise against disassembly. The lens is not valuable enough to make it worthwhile. The best solution is to file the claim (as you have done). I would recommend a used Sigma 70-300 as a replacement and use the 18-55 kit lens to fill in the range if you want to keep the costs down. Hope you have better luck in the future.

06-11-2018, 08:35 AM	#17
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by Hamiltom I'm beginning to think the return spring for the iris has fallen off and jammed internally inside the lens. It obvious that from your further information that the contacts are fine. I believe the spring in that model is accessible be removing the mount, but I would advise against disassembly. The lens is not valuable enough to make it worthwhile. The best solution is to file the claim (as you have done). I would recommend a used Sigma 70-300 as a replacement and use the 18-55 kit lens to fill in the range if you want to keep the costs down. Hope you have better luck in the future. I don't want to "kick someone when he is down", but a lesson all of us should learn from this adventure is to always try something as soon as you can, because there is a reasonable limitation on returns

06-11-2018, 08:42 AM	#18
twilhelm Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,369	Originally posted by reh321 I don't want to "kick someone when he is down", but a lesson all of us should learn from this adventure is to always try something as soon as you can, because there is a reasonable limitation on returns Agreed. But I believe the OP stated the shipping of the lens was delayed to him. He may still have a legitimate claim, depending on how "delayed" it was.

06-11-2018, 09:01 AM	#19
LensBeginner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,696	Originally posted by twilhelm Agreed. But I believe the OP stated the shipping of the lens was delayed to him. He may still have a legitimate claim, depending on how "delayed" it was. In cases like this I wonder if the delay was accidental or not...

06-11-2018, 12:44 PM	#20
madbrain Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,341 Original Poster	Originally posted by SSGGeezer Good luck since it sounds like a poor seller. Was it fulfilled by Amazon or just linked through Amazon? I am very leery if it is not a fulfilled by Amazon product because of slow shipping and lousy customer service like this. It was sold and shipped by the seller directly. ---------- Post added 06-11-18 at 12:52 PM ---------- Originally posted by LensBeginner In cases like this I wonder if the delay was accidental or not... Actually, it's my bad, it wasn't delayed, I recalled incorrectly. Order was placed 5/7 . It was shipped 5/9 . Received 5/11 . I notified the seller of the problem with the lens through the Amazon system on 6/8, and he did not reply. Filed my refund request 6/10. Was denied by seller 6/11, and filed A-Z then. I hope Amazon will approve it. If not, my next step would be to file a claim for purchase protection under my credit card.

06-11-2018, 01:01 PM	#21
LensBeginner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,696	Originally posted by madbrain Actually, it's my bad, it wasn't delayed, I recalled incorrectly. Order was placed 5/7 . It was shipped 5/9 . Received 5/11 . I notified the seller of the problem with the lens through the Amazon system on 6/8, and he did not reply. Filed my refund request 6/10. Was denied by seller 6/11, and filed A-Z then. I hope Amazon will approve it. If not, my next step would be to file a claim for purchase protection under my credit card. That's why the general advice is to check items ASAP... hope you get your money back, otherwise you could still try and disassemble it. If it's only a loose spring as Hamilton speculated, then it could be a relatively easy fix.

06-11-2018, 01:32 PM	#22
madbrain Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,341 Original Poster	Originally posted by LensBeginner That's why the general advice is to check items ASAP... hope you get your money back, otherwise you could still try and disassemble it. If it's only a loose spring as Hamilton speculated, then it could be a relatively easy fix. I'm not mechanically inclined, so I think I would not attempt this. Hopefully A-Z claim will work.

06-11-2018, 01:34 PM	#23
LensBeginner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,696	Originally posted by madbrain I'm not mechanically inclined, so I think I would not attempt this. Hopefully A-Z claim will work. I would have probably enjoyed disassembling it than shooting with it... I bought a K-30 with the aperture control block failure just to repair it. Keep us posted

06-11-2018, 01:57 PM - 1 Like	#24
madbrain Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,341 Original Poster	Originally posted by LensBeginner I would have probably enjoyed disassembling it than shooting with it... I bought a K-30 with the aperture control block failure just to repair it. Keep us posted I will. I may end up getting the money back from credit card claim and keep the lens if they don't ask for it back, in which case you could have it for the cost of shipping.

06-11-2018, 02:04 PM	#25
LensBeginner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,696	Originally posted by madbrain I will. I may end up getting the money back from credit card claim and keep the lens if they don't ask for it back, in which case you could have it for the cost of shipping. Hahaha thanks! though it might be a little bit impractical from San Jose California to Florence Italy (not Alabama, not Arizona, not Colorado, not South Carolina... I found out that there are more "Florence" in the USA than I thought! I was expecting to find only one... )

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06-11-2018, 02:13 PM - 1 Like	#26
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by LensBeginner Florence Italy (not Alabama, not Arizona, not Colorado, not South Carolina... I found out that there are more "Florence" in the USA than I thought! I was expecting to find only one... ) When people came to the USA, they brought their old names with them. In my state Indiana, we do have a few "native" names such as "Miami" and "Mishawaka". We have names of persons such as "Lasalle" and "Lafayette". We have 'constructed' names such as my home town of "South Bend". But we have lots of names that we imported such as "Bremen", "London", "Mexico" and "Peru".

06-11-2018, 02:21 PM	#27
LensBeginner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,696	Originally posted by reh321 When people came to the USA, they brought their old names with them. In my state Indiana, we do have a few "native" names such as "Miami" and "Mishawaka". We have names of persons such as "Lasalle" and "Lafayette". We have 'constructed' names such as my home town of "South Bend". But we have lots of names that we imported such as "Bremen", "London", "Mexico" and "Peru". There even are some which are become more famous and bigger than the "originals": New York, New Orleans, Boston... I just didn't expect to find that many!

06-11-2018, 02:31 PM	#28
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,385	Originally posted by LensBeginner Hahaha thanks! though it might be a little bit impractical from San Jose California to Florence Italy (not Alabama, not Arizona, not Colorado, not South Carolina... I found out that there are more "Florence" in the USA than I thought! I was expecting to find only one... ) My wife will be there in the fall. You could hand if off and we could ship it when she returns... LOL. (Mostly kidding)

06-11-2018, 02:34 PM	#29
LensBeginner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 4,696	Originally posted by UncleVanya My wife will be there in the fall. You could hand if off and we could ship it when she returns... LOL. (Mostly kidding) Since it'll be in your hands, why don't you just keep it and try the disassembly yourself? I already have an M 200/4 that needs fiddling with the infinity focus...

06-11-2018, 02:35 PM - 2 Likes	#30
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,385	Originally posted by LensBeginner Since it'll be in your hands, why don't you just keep it and try the disassembly yourself? I already have an M 200/4 that needs fiddling with the infinity focus... No time! I have no interest in a new hobby (fixing mechanically broken lenses) - I'm already converting lenses from SDM to screw drive for people. I have a day job too!