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**mgvh** · 07-04-2018, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by Mikesul

After all this is a Pentax forum. Unlikely that you will get the best informed help regarding Fuji vs Pentas

I'm keeping my Pentax K-3 as my primary camera (usually w/ the 16-85 on it), but I'm looking for something smaller to use as a backup / street camera. And I want to be able to use my collection of K-mount lenses. I would be happy if Pentax came out with an updated K-01 with a viewfinder, updated APS-C, etc., but I don't think that's going to happen.

**Mikesul** · 07-04-2018, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by mgvh

I'm keeping my Pentax K-3 as my primary camera (usually w/ the 16-85 on it), but I'm looking for something smaller to use as a backup / street camera. And I want to be able to use my collection of K-mount lenses. I would be happy if Pentax came out with an updated K-01 with a viewfinder, updated APS-C, etc., but I don't think that's going to happen.

Isn't that the KP?

Ronald Oakes · 07-04-2018, 02:21 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by mgvh

Thanks, all! I was thinking about the K-70, but if I go w/ APS-C DSLR, I think I'd try to hold out for a used K-3ii. Maybe in a few months, and if Pentax announces a replacement for the K-3ii / KP, maybe one of them used will drop into my price range. Thanks again!

I just sold my Backup K-3II for $470 here on the forum...1630 clicks in Mint condition ! It is doable.
BTW.....forget the M43 system , you will never be happy down the road.

**Mikesul** · 07-04-2018, 04:45 PM

Listen to Ronald Oakes!

**onlineflyer** · 07-04-2018, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by Mikesul

Listen to Ronald Oakes!

^^^ This

**mgvh** · 07-04-2018, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Ronald Oakes

I just sold my Backup K-3II for $470 here on the forum...1630 clicks in Mint condition ! It is doable. BTW.....forget the M43 system , you will never be happy down the road.

Hmm... I must have missed seeing your K-3II...
Yes, I've decided that M43 is not for me. APS-C still is my preferred format.
If I could find a used KP for ~$500, I'd consider that, but the Fujifilm X-T100 I mentioned is still quite a bit smaller.
Thanks again, all!

**onlineflyer** · 07-04-2018, 07:25 PM

Whatever you pick it will be a great choice . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

as long as it's a Pentax.

SSGGeezer · 07-04-2018, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by mgvh

I've still been looking around, knowing that I still have a few months before getting another body.

How about the new Fujifilm X-T100 using my Pentax lenses? (Initial price is $600 body only, $700 w/ 15-45 lens - Hopefully prices will come down a bit in a few months.)

The Fujifilm is small, about half the weight of a K3, uses APS-C, and has both an articulating touchscreen and an electronic viewfinder.

It isn't weather-resistant, nor does it have in-body image stabilization.
It does video better than Pentax, however, especially if I pay an extra $100 and get the 15-45 kit lens. It has bluetooth and pairs w/ my phone so I can apparently geotag images along with viewing them.

If I get the right Pentax K > Fujifilm X adapter, I am apparently able to use aperture mode shooting, so I could use any of my lenses in manual focus.

I see a few people on this forum are using the more expensive Fujifilm X-T20 or X-M1 with their Pentax lenses, so it seems doable...

Am I missing anything? Other advice? Thanks!

EVF is not for everyone, I myself dislike it a great deal and hated Point and Shoot and Bridge cameras that I tried with them. Future firmware and support from Fuji would be my concern since I thought they got out of the camera biz.

Do you shoot video much? If you do then you were barking up the wrong tree when you asked your initial question here. Most folks who post a lot are fans of what Pentax produces and what the capabilities of the camera are. Adapters are probably better than I have experienced in my short time as a DSLR owner.

surfar · 07-05-2018, 02:11 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by SSGGeezer

Future firmware and support from Fuji would be my concern since I thought they got out of the camera biz.

Hmm, well you thought that one wrong....but reading between the lines,you may have them confused with Samsung.

---------- Post added 07-05-18 at 08:29 PM ----------

Originally posted by mgvh

The Fujifilm is small, about half the weight of a K3, uses APS-C, and has both an articulating touchscreen and an electronic viewfinder.

It isn't weather-resistant, nor does it have in-body image stabilization.
It does video better than Pentax, however, especially if I pay an extra $100 and get the 15-45 kit lens. It has bluetooth and pairs w/ my phone so I can apparently geotag images along with viewing them.

Youtu.be

This stabilisation looks OK, i own the 15-45 and its a awesome "little" lens.

fsge · 07-05-2018, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by onlineflyer

Whatever you pick it will be a great choice . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

as long as it's a Pentax.

Yes, always better to support our favorite brand...

**Mikesul** · 07-05-2018, 07:42 AM

Pentax needs you.

normhead · 07-05-2018, 08:23 AM - **2 Likes**

It's little difficult to understand the dismissal of the K-70. I aways buy one extra battery, buy two and the battery issue is solved. I almost always shoot in AV mode, the only time I dive into the menus is to enable Pixel shift. All other settings are programmed into the user dials, of which the K-70 has 3. It doesn't have the "big camera" prestige of a K-1 or K-3, but if you were considering 4/3, that seriously cannot be a drawback.

Fenwoodian, who is so picky I find him difficult to talk to and who I'm pretty sure has me on his ignore list, likes his .That should be enough to sell 100 of them right there.
Pentax K-70 - Pentax K-mount DSLRs - Pentax Camera Reviews and Specifications

reh321 · 07-05-2018, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by normhead

It's little difficult to understand the dismissal of the K-70. I aways buy one extra battery, buy two and the battery issue is solved. I almost always shoot in AV mode, the only time I dive into the menus is to enable Pixel shift. All other settings are programmed into the user dials, of which the K-70 has 3. It doesn't have the "big camera" prestige of a K-1 or K-3, but if you were considering 4/3, that seriously cannot be a drawback.

Fenwoodian, who is so picky I find him difficult to talk to and who I'm pretty sure has me on his ignore list, likes his .That should be enough to sell 100 of them right there.
Pentax K-70 - Pentax K-mount DSLRs - Pentax Camera Reviews and Specifications

I know Pentax is said to have dealt with their aperture control issue for the K-70, but I'll have trouble ever trusting a camera from that line again. In some sense Pentax gains, because I'll eventually purchase a {more expensive} KP, but in some sense Pentax loses because they'll have to wait an extra year or more for their money

reh321 · 07-05-2018, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by normhead

I'm pretty sure has me on his ignore list

Is there no way for you to tell if you're on someone's "Ignore List"?
Seems kind of wasteful to respond when he doesn't know you're saying anythng

reh321 · 07-05-2018, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by Mikesul

Isn't that the KP?

A KP is smaller than usual, but it still has mirror and prism.

K-01 is smaller still and is MILC {"mirrorless"}; any viewfinder would be an Electronic ViewFinder {EVF}.

07-04-2018, 02:21 PM - 1 Like	#18
Ronald Oakes Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,585	Originally posted by mgvh Thanks, all! I was thinking about the K-70, but if I go w/ APS-C DSLR, I think I'd try to hold out for a used K-3ii. Maybe in a few months, and if Pentax announces a replacement for the K-3ii / KP, maybe one of them used will drop into my price range. Thanks again! I just sold my Backup K-3II for $470 here on the forum...1630 clicks in Mint condition ! It is doable. BTW.....forget the M43 system , you will never be happy down the road. Last edited by Ronald Oakes; 07-04-2018 at 02:26 PM.

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07-04-2018, 01:56 PM	#16
mgvh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MD Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,033 Original Poster	Originally posted by Mikesul After all this is a Pentax forum. Unlikely that you will get the best informed help regarding Fuji vs Pentas I'm keeping my Pentax K-3 as my primary camera (usually w/ the 16-85 on it), but I'm looking for something smaller to use as a backup / street camera. And I want to be able to use my collection of K-mount lenses. I would be happy if Pentax came out with an updated K-01 with a viewfinder, updated APS-C, etc., but I don't think that's going to happen.

07-04-2018, 02:07 PM	#17
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Originally posted by mgvh I'm keeping my Pentax K-3 as my primary camera (usually w/ the 16-85 on it), but I'm looking for something smaller to use as a backup / street camera. And I want to be able to use my collection of K-mount lenses. I would be happy if Pentax came out with an updated K-01 with a viewfinder, updated APS-C, etc., but I don't think that's going to happen. Isn't that the KP?

07-04-2018, 04:45 PM	#19
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Listen to Ronald Oakes!

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onlineflyer Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NW Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,094	Originally posted by Mikesul Listen to Ronald Oakes! ^^^ This

07-04-2018, 05:22 PM	#21
mgvh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MD Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,033 Original Poster	Originally posted by Ronald Oakes I just sold my Backup K-3II for $470 here on the forum...1630 clicks in Mint condition ! It is doable. BTW.....forget the M43 system , you will never be happy down the road. Hmm... I must have missed seeing your K-3II... Yes, I've decided that M43 is not for me. APS-C still is my preferred format. If I could find a used KP for ~$500, I'd consider that, but the Fujifilm X-T100 I mentioned is still quite a bit smaller. Thanks again, all!

07-04-2018, 07:25 PM	#22
onlineflyer Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NW Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,094	Whatever you pick it will be a great choice . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . as long as it's a Pentax.

07-04-2018, 08:38 PM	#23
SSGGeezer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Indiana, U.S. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,845	Originally posted by mgvh I've still been looking around, knowing that I still have a few months before getting another body. How about the new Fujifilm X-T100 using my Pentax lenses? (Initial price is $600 body only, $700 w/ 15-45 lens - Hopefully prices will come down a bit in a few months.) The Fujifilm is small, about half the weight of a K3, uses APS-C, and has both an articulating touchscreen and an electronic viewfinder. It isn't weather-resistant, nor does it have in-body image stabilization. It does video better than Pentax, however, especially if I pay an extra $100 and get the 15-45 kit lens. It has bluetooth and pairs w/ my phone so I can apparently geotag images along with viewing them. If I get the right Pentax K > Fujifilm X adapter, I am apparently able to use aperture mode shooting, so I could use any of my lenses in manual focus. I see a few people on this forum are using the more expensive Fujifilm X-T20 or X-M1 with their Pentax lenses, so it seems doable... Am I missing anything? Other advice? Thanks! EVF is not for everyone, I myself dislike it a great deal and hated Point and Shoot and Bridge cameras that I tried with them. Future firmware and support from Fuji would be my concern since I thought they got out of the camera biz. Do you shoot video much? If you do then you were barking up the wrong tree when you asked your initial question here. Most folks who post a lot are fans of what Pentax produces and what the capabilities of the camera are. Adapters are probably better than I have experienced in my short time as a DSLR owner.

07-05-2018, 04:00 AM	#25
fsge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Genf Posts: 1,138	Originally posted by onlineflyer Whatever you pick it will be a great choice . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . as long as it's a Pentax. Yes, always better to support our favorite brand...

07-05-2018, 07:42 AM	#26
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Pentax needs you.

07-05-2018, 08:23 AM - 2 Likes	#27
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	It's little difficult to understand the dismissal of the K-70. I aways buy one extra battery, buy two and the battery issue is solved. I almost always shoot in AV mode, the only time I dive into the menus is to enable Pixel shift. All other settings are programmed into the user dials, of which the K-70 has 3. It doesn't have the "big camera" prestige of a K-1 or K-3, but if you were considering 4/3, that seriously cannot be a drawback. Fenwoodian, who is so picky I find him difficult to talk to and who I'm pretty sure has me on his ignore list, likes his .That should be enough to sell 100 of them right there. Pentax K-70 - Pentax K-mount DSLRs - Pentax Camera Reviews and Specifications

07-05-2018, 08:44 AM	#28
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,186	Originally posted by normhead It's little difficult to understand the dismissal of the K-70. I aways buy one extra battery, buy two and the battery issue is solved. I almost always shoot in AV mode, the only time I dive into the menus is to enable Pixel shift. All other settings are programmed into the user dials, of which the K-70 has 3. It doesn't have the "big camera" prestige of a K-1 or K-3, but if you were considering 4/3, that seriously cannot be a drawback. Fenwoodian, who is so picky I find him difficult to talk to and who I'm pretty sure has me on his ignore list, likes his .That should be enough to sell 100 of them right there. Pentax K-70 - Pentax K-mount DSLRs - Pentax Camera Reviews and Specifications I know Pentax is said to have dealt with their aperture control issue for the K-70, but I'll have trouble ever trusting a camera from that line again. In some sense Pentax gains, because I'll eventually purchase a {more expensive} KP, but in some sense Pentax loses because they'll have to wait an extra year or more for their money

07-05-2018, 08:47 AM	#29
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,186	Originally posted by normhead I'm pretty sure has me on his ignore list Is there no way for you to tell if you're on someone's "Ignore List"? Seems kind of wasteful to respond when he doesn't know you're saying anythng

07-05-2018, 08:49 AM	#30
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,186	Originally posted by Mikesul Isn't that the KP? A KP is smaller than usual, but it still has mirror and prism. K-01 is smaller still and is MILC {"mirrorless"}; any viewfinder would be an Electronic ViewFinder {EVF}.

Help me think... K3ii or KP or M43 or...

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