New Pentax DSLR: Evidence at Adorama!

northcoastgreg · 08-24-2018, 06:51 AM

Worst case scenario: it's all bogus.

Best case scenario: these are garbled representations of products to be announced at Photokina. The 50 MP camera and the $7,599 price tag suggests a 645zii, a very modest update to the current 645z. The other camera is an APS-C model. The $1,069.94 price point is entirely bogus, as no camera would have such an MSRP. So it's possible this is a flagship (in that case, $1,300+). What the heck is the 14-24 lens? Probably bogus, or a mis-statement of focal length (mis-statement of 11-16?). If there is a 14-24 lens coming, it would be a DFA wide angle zoom, probably an f4 optic, and would not likely be kitted with an APS-C DSLR.

MacGirl · 08-24-2018, 06:52 AM

Wow! I checked in to see the post progress and thought, "what the heck happened overnight?"......

Regardless, I hope this is true.....I can probably hold out a bit longer and maybe the KP will drop another $200. Would make my indecision go away for sure.

ogl · 08-24-2018, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by agukha

I believe some cameras have already been announced on week end.

Could it be the new GR, with a FF sensor, and an "fixed" 14-24mm lens ?

no. FF GR with 14-24 is unreal

ogl · 08-24-2018, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by ayersliao

That means it is NOT a fake!
Great. So excited!

it means that the chat guys have no any info

**clickclick** · 08-24-2018, 06:56 AM

So just had a really nice chat with the rep. The buyer is not in currently, so he can't get any more information. He is very apologetic for not knowing more. He has my name and number and hopes to be able to call me on Monday with more information.

**clickclick** · 08-24-2018, 06:56 AM

So just had a really nice chat with the rep. The buyer is not in currently, so he can't get any more information. He is very apologetic for not knowing more. He has my name and number and hopes to be able to call me on Monday with more information.

DeadJohn · 08-24-2018, 06:57 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by agukha

...Could it be the new GR, with a FF sensor, and an "fixed" 14-24mm lens ?

Unlikely. Larger sensor and ultrawide zoom would be a break from the GR design philosophy. The camera would not fit in a pocket - look how large every 14mm FF lens is.

ogl · 08-24-2018, 06:57 AM

14-24 is not real IMO there is DFA15-30/2.8. no any sense to develop 14-24. and no such lens in roadmap.

reh321 · 08-24-2018, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by northcoastgreg

Worst case scenario: it's all bogus.

Best case scenario: these are garbled representations of products to be announced at Photokina. The 50 MP camera and the $7,599 price tag suggests a 645zii, a very modest update to the current 645z. The other camera is an APS-C model. The $1,069.94 price point is entirely bogus, as no camera would have such an MSRP. So it's possible this is a flagship (in that case, $1,300+). What the heck is the 14-24 lens? Probably bogus, or a mis-statement of focal length (mis-statement of 11-16?). If there is a 14-24 lens coming, it would be a DFA wide angle zoom, probably an f4 optic, and would not likely be kitted with an APS-C DSLR.

This is 5 cents more than list price of KP.

When I asked them about it via chat, the answer was "No, there's really no info available on it yet."

No evidence they think it is a mistake.

**WillWeaverRVA** · 08-24-2018, 07:10 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by clickclick

So just had a really nice chat with the rep. The buyer is not in currently, so he can't get any more information. He is very apologetic for not knowing more. He has my name and number and hopes to be able to call me on Monday with more information.

And I'm sure after he hung up, he looked right at the buyer and said, "that'll keep those Pentax Forums folks talking for a few weeks!" :P

ayersliao · 08-24-2018, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by ogl

it means that the chat guys have no any info

Many thought it had been hacked, but the reply basically ruled it out.

northcoastgreg · 08-24-2018, 07:12 AM

Originally posted by ogl

14-24 is not real IMO there is DFA15-30/2.8. no any sense to develop 14-24. and no such lens in roadmap.

There'd be no reason to develop a DFA 14-24 f2.8, but there might be a reason for coming out with a DFA 14-24 f4. After all, Pentax is coming out with a 70-200 f4, despite the 70-200 f2.8; and Sony, Nikon, and Canon all have both f4 and f2.8 wide angle zooms.

**UncleVanya** · 08-24-2018, 07:18 AM

Exciting times.

**aslyfox** · 08-24-2018, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by reh321

This is 5 cents more than list price of KP.

When I asked them about it via chat, the answer was "No, there's really no info available on it yet."

No evidence they think it is a mistake.

so no info

as in it doesn't exist

or

we have no other info other than what has been posted

tvdtvdtvd · 08-24-2018, 07:22 AM

I think all the data entered are nothing more than place holders, so no point speculating based on that.
Best case scenario, this is indication of a new product, (or two), is on the way. Worst case scenario is
a database entry error.

A new APS-C body and a new 645 would certainly be a delight. We only have a month to speculate.....

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08-24-2018, 06:51 AM	#76
northcoastgreg Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Northern Michigan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,173	Worst case scenario: it's all bogus. Best case scenario: these are garbled representations of products to be announced at Photokina. The 50 MP camera and the $7,599 price tag suggests a 645zii, a very modest update to the current 645z. The other camera is an APS-C model. The $1,069.94 price point is entirely bogus, as no camera would have such an MSRP. So it's possible this is a flagship (in that case, $1,300+). What the heck is the 14-24 lens? Probably bogus, or a mis-statement of focal length (mis-statement of 11-16?). If there is a 14-24 lens coming, it would be a DFA wide angle zoom, probably an f4 optic, and would not likely be kitted with an APS-C DSLR.

08-24-2018, 06:52 AM	#77
MacGirl Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 209	Wow! I checked in to see the post progress and thought, "what the heck happened overnight?"...... Regardless, I hope this is true.....I can probably hold out a bit longer and maybe the KP will drop another $200. Would make my indecision go away for sure.

08-24-2018, 06:53 AM	#78
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by agukha I believe some cameras have already been announced on week end. Could it be the new GR, with a FF sensor, and an "fixed" 14-24mm lens ? no. FF GR with 14-24 is unreal

08-24-2018, 06:55 AM	#79
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by ayersliao That means it is NOT a fake! Great. So excited! it means that the chat guys have no any info

08-24-2018, 06:56 AM	#80
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,903	So just had a really nice chat with the rep. The buyer is not in currently, so he can't get any more information. He is very apologetic for not knowing more. He has my name and number and hopes to be able to call me on Monday with more information.

08-24-2018, 06:56 AM	#81
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,903	So just had a really nice chat with the rep. The buyer is not in currently, so he can't get any more information. He is very apologetic for not knowing more. He has my name and number and hopes to be able to call me on Monday with more information.

08-24-2018, 06:57 AM - 1 Like	#82
DeadJohn Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 4,833	Originally posted by agukha ...Could it be the new GR, with a FF sensor, and an "fixed" 14-24mm lens ? Unlikely. Larger sensor and ultrawide zoom would be a break from the GR design philosophy. The camera would not fit in a pocket - look how large every 14mm FF lens is.

08-24-2018, 06:57 AM	#83
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	14-24 is not real IMO there is DFA15-30/2.8. no any sense to develop 14-24. and no such lens in roadmap.

08-24-2018, 07:09 AM	#84
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	Originally posted by northcoastgreg Worst case scenario: it's all bogus. Best case scenario: these are garbled representations of products to be announced at Photokina. The 50 MP camera and the $7,599 price tag suggests a 645zii, a very modest update to the current 645z. The other camera is an APS-C model. The $1,069.94 price point is entirely bogus, as no camera would have such an MSRP. So it's possible this is a flagship (in that case, $1,300+). What the heck is the 14-24 lens? Probably bogus, or a mis-statement of focal length (mis-statement of 11-16?). If there is a 14-24 lens coming, it would be a DFA wide angle zoom, probably an f4 optic, and would not likely be kitted with an APS-C DSLR. This is 5 cents more than list price of KP. When I asked them about it via chat, the answer was "No, there's really no info available on it yet." No evidence they think it is a mistake.

08-24-2018, 07:10 AM - 4 Likes	#85
WillWeaverRVA Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Richmond, VA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,071	Originally posted by clickclick So just had a really nice chat with the rep. The buyer is not in currently, so he can't get any more information. He is very apologetic for not knowing more. He has my name and number and hopes to be able to call me on Monday with more information. And I'm sure after he hung up, he looked right at the buyer and said, "that'll keep those Pentax Forums folks talking for a few weeks!" :P

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08-24-2018, 07:11 AM	#86
ayersliao New Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 17	Originally posted by ogl it means that the chat guys have no any info Many thought it had been hacked, but the reply basically ruled it out.

08-24-2018, 07:12 AM	#87
northcoastgreg Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Northern Michigan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,173	Originally posted by ogl 14-24 is not real IMO there is DFA15-30/2.8. no any sense to develop 14-24. and no such lens in roadmap. There'd be no reason to develop a DFA 14-24 f2.8, but there might be a reason for coming out with a DFA 14-24 f4. After all, Pentax is coming out with a 70-200 f4, despite the 70-200 f2.8; and Sony, Nikon, and Canon all have both f4 and f2.8 wide angle zooms.

08-24-2018, 07:18 AM	#88
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,398	Exciting times.

08-24-2018, 07:21 AM	#89
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Originally posted by reh321 This is 5 cents more than list price of KP. When I asked them about it via chat, the answer was "No, there's really no info available on it yet." No evidence they think it is a mistake. so no info as in it doesn't exist or we have no other info other than what has been posted

08-24-2018, 07:22 AM	#90
tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	I think all the data entered are nothing more than place holders, so no point speculating based on that. Best case scenario, this is indication of a new product, (or two), is on the way. Worst case scenario is a database entry error. A new APS-C body and a new 645 would certainly be a delight. We only have a month to speculate.....