Downloading Images from Camera : Options?

**Larrymc** · 11-17-2018, 03:03 PM

I copy my files from the SD card to my laptop hard drive using Faststone Image Viewer (its the closest to the old windows XP photo downloader which I loved) based on the date of copy. I then use a program called PhotoMove to distribute the files based on date of capture and camera which PhotoMove can be set up to easily do. After distributing the files I format the SD card in camera. I use FastRaw Viewer to cull my distributed files and then on a monthly basis move the original copies to external hard drives and I remove the original copies from my laptop hard drive to save space.

**rogerstg** · 11-17-2018, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by photolady95

I already have the software, and on my other computer, I use LibreOffice. So don't need the free ??? version. I don't think Microsoft is free anything, you don't own anything from Microsoft you're only renting it.

The reason I wrote that it might be useful for "some" is that due to my business, it's best for me to have the most current Office suite (compatibility, collaboration, etc with client systems and files). So with my three computers, tablet, cell phone and my wife's laptop, 100 bucks a year for keeping the office suite up to date is a bargain. The free part to which I referred (tongue in cheek) is that they also include the TB of storage. Some, but not you obviously, might be helped by knowing about that. FWIW, I tried LibreOffice, it didn't work out for me and my business: too many instances of incompatibility.

**lsimpkins** · 11-18-2018, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by photolady95

I don't think Microsoft is free anything, you don't own anything from Microsoft you're only renting it.

Unless you write it yourself, you don't "own" any software. You own a license to use the software. The license often comes with stipulations called out in the EULA, one of which is often that the license can be revoked by the actual software owner.

kypfer · 11-20-2018, 02:48 AM

Having started this thread I thought I'd post a quick update. It would appear that my original question was, in part, redundant anyway, as I don't have a USB cable to fit the K-70, there's not one in the box and the USB cables supplied with my previous Pentax cameras (as with my long-serving cable release) no longer function with the K-70 (different plug and socket).

A cost cutting exercise or a revenue-generating scheme?

**rogerstg** · 11-20-2018, 05:09 AM

Originally posted by kypfer

I don't have a USB cable to fit the K-70, there's not one in the box .

It's just a standard micro b usb cable as used on practically all Android phones and most other consumer electronic devices. You probably have one close by.

photolady95 · 11-20-2018, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by lsimpkins

Unless you write it yourself, you don't "own" any software. You own a license to use the software. The license often comes with stipulations called out in the EULA, one of which is often that the license can be revoked by the actual software owner.

And the exact reason for my statement.

Unregistered User · 11-20-2018, 06:57 AM

Originally posted by DeadJohn

When transferring by taking the card out of my camera, I leave the camera on my desk and the card door open as a reminder the card is out. I put the card back in as soon as transfer completes.
...

I'd do that, too, except for the fact that I'm certain I'd do something that would result in a busted door.

photolady95 · 11-20-2018, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by rogerstg

The reason I wrote that it might be useful for "some" is that due to my business, it's best for me to have the most current Office suite (compatibility, collaboration, etc with client systems and files). So with my three computers, tablet, cell phone and my wife's laptop, 100 bucks a year for keeping the office suite up to date is a bargain. The free part to which I referred (tongue in cheek) is that they also include the TB of storage. Some, but not you obviously, might be helped by knowing about that. FWIW, I tried LibreOffice, it didn't work out for me and my business: too many instances of incompatibility.

Well, for your sake, I hope you don't rely solely on cloud storage. I use flickr, but all my photos are stored else where too.
But I also have the hard copy of Office. Not just LibreOffice.

**rogerstg** · 11-20-2018, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by photolady95

Well, for your sake, I hope you don't rely solely on cloud storage

OneDrive is configured as folders on my hard drives. They synchronize with my computers and the cloud. It's very safe. I use a similar system for client files. Things are backed up to multiple locations and the cloud and available to multiple devices.

**lsimpkins** · 11-20-2018, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by photolady95

And the exact reason for my statement.

You originally stated: "...you don't own anything from Microsoft you're only renting it" which seemed to single out Microsoft as being unique in this regard. My response was to point out that you don't own any software that you have not created yourself, not just that from Microsoft. I think we're on the same wavelength, but I just wanted to clarify for the casual reader.

kypfer · 11-20-2018, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by rogerstg

It's just a standard micro b usb cable as used on practically all Android phones and most other consumer electronic devices. You probably have one close by.

Nope! Never had an Android phone, don't anticipate ever needing one.

I've got at least half a dozen USB cables with different miniature plugs on one end + several duplicates, which would have come with different hardware over the years, from Sony, Pentax, Apple, Samsung and the like, so at least some of them were considered a "standard" at one point ... just not this "standard" ... more expense

reh321 · 11-20-2018, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by kypfer

Nope! Never had an Android phone, don't anticipate ever needing one.

I've got at least half a dozen USB cables with different miniature plugs on one end + several duplicates, which would have come with different hardware over the years, from Sony, Pentax, Apple, Samsung and the like, so at least some of them were considered a "standard" at one point ... just not this "standard" ... more expense

I'm not sure how many "standard USB" endings exist; yesterday I purchased a Phillips package of four adapters - and none of them fit my Q-7.
I believe all these "standards" - plus more - were/are active at the same point in time.
I believe I did purchase one of these at some time, but I don't remember what it was called .... I had taken my camera with me to compare them.

I am really surprised that Pentax didn't provide what you need.

photolady95 · 11-20-2018, 11:57 AM

My ZTE phone uses a Type C connection, not a the standard of many android phones.

Originally posted by lsimpkins

You originally stated: "...you don't own anything from Microsoft you're only renting it" which seemed to single out Microsoft as being unique in this regard. My response was to point out that you don't own any software that you have not created yourself, not just that from Microsoft. I think we're on the same wavelength, but I just wanted to clarify for the casual reader.

Yes, there are but since I was talking about what another member said cost only $100, I was speaking specifically of Microsoft.

angerdan · 11-20-2018, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by kypfer

using the Wi-Fi feature on my K-70 (for which I may have to get further hardware support to be able to use it).
my Windows laptop is a little past it's "Best Before" date, though it does have Wi-Fi, when it's in a good mood

should I be considering some sort of "upgrade"?

Thanks in advance for any constructive comments

Here's a table with all tethering options for Pentax cameras:
Keep the overview on the increasing tethering options for Pentax cameras - PentaxForums.com

**rogerstg** · 11-20-2018, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by kypfer

so at least some of them were considered a "standard" at one point ... just not this "standard" ... more expense

The good news it that they're only a few dollars, assuming you have no friends or acquaintances that use android or other electronic devices.

Too bad you're not nearby, it seems I've got them all over the place that I could lend one to see if it works well for you. You're also right about the changing standard. Newer things are starting to come through with USB micro C, which are oval and can be inserted upside down too.

11-17-2018, 03:03 PM	#31
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	My image file management routine I copy my files from the SD card to my laptop hard drive using Faststone Image Viewer (its the closest to the old windows XP photo downloader which I loved) based on the date of copy. I then use a program called PhotoMove to distribute the files based on date of capture and camera which PhotoMove can be set up to easily do. After distributing the files I format the SD card in camera. I use FastRaw Viewer to cull my distributed files and then on a monthly basis move the original copies to external hard drives and I remove the original copies from my laptop hard drive to save space.

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11-17-2018, 04:21 PM	#32
rogerstg Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rhode Island Photos: Albums Posts: 1,168	Originally posted by photolady95 I already have the software, and on my other computer, I use LibreOffice. So don't need the free ??? version. I don't think Microsoft is free anything, you don't own anything from Microsoft you're only renting it. The reason I wrote that it might be useful for "some" is that due to my business, it's best for me to have the most current Office suite (compatibility, collaboration, etc with client systems and files). So with my three computers, tablet, cell phone and my wife's laptop, 100 bucks a year for keeping the office suite up to date is a bargain. The free part to which I referred (tongue in cheek) is that they also include the TB of storage. Some, but not you obviously, might be helped by knowing about that. FWIW, I tried LibreOffice, it didn't work out for me and my business: too many instances of incompatibility.

11-18-2018, 07:11 AM	#33
lsimpkins Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: SE Pennsylvania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 537	Originally posted by photolady95 I don't think Microsoft is free anything, you don't own anything from Microsoft you're only renting it. Unless you write it yourself, you don't "own" any software. You own a license to use the software. The license often comes with stipulations called out in the EULA, one of which is often that the license can be revoked by the actual software owner.

11-20-2018, 02:48 AM	#34
kypfer Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Jersey C.I. Posts: 3,588 Original Poster	Having started this thread I thought I'd post a quick update. It would appear that my original question was, in part, redundant anyway, as I don't have a USB cable to fit the K-70, there's not one in the box and the USB cables supplied with my previous Pentax cameras (as with my long-serving cable release) no longer function with the K-70 (different plug and socket). A cost cutting exercise or a revenue-generating scheme?

11-20-2018, 05:09 AM	#35
rogerstg Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rhode Island Photos: Albums Posts: 1,168	Originally posted by kypfer I don't have a USB cable to fit the K-70, there's not one in the box . It's just a standard micro b usb cable as used on practically all Android phones and most other consumer electronic devices. You probably have one close by.

11-20-2018, 06:28 AM	#36
photolady95 Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cruising the forum watching his back Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,712	Originally posted by lsimpkins Unless you write it yourself, you don't "own" any software. You own a license to use the software. The license often comes with stipulations called out in the EULA, one of which is often that the license can be revoked by the actual software owner. And the exact reason for my statement.

11-20-2018, 06:57 AM	#37
Unregistered User Guest	Originally posted by DeadJohn When transferring by taking the card out of my camera, I leave the camera on my desk and the card door open as a reminder the card is out. I put the card back in as soon as transfer completes. ... I'd do that, too, except for the fact that I'm certain I'd do something that would result in a busted door.

11-20-2018, 07:01 AM	#38
photolady95 Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cruising the forum watching his back Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,712	Originally posted by rogerstg The reason I wrote that it might be useful for "some" is that due to my business, it's best for me to have the most current Office suite (compatibility, collaboration, etc with client systems and files). So with my three computers, tablet, cell phone and my wife's laptop, 100 bucks a year for keeping the office suite up to date is a bargain. The free part to which I referred (tongue in cheek) is that they also include the TB of storage. Some, but not you obviously, might be helped by knowing about that. FWIW, I tried LibreOffice, it didn't work out for me and my business: too many instances of incompatibility. Well, for your sake, I hope you don't rely solely on cloud storage. I use flickr, but all my photos are stored else where too. But I also have the hard copy of Office. Not just LibreOffice.

11-20-2018, 07:42 AM	#39
rogerstg Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rhode Island Photos: Albums Posts: 1,168	Originally posted by photolady95 Well, for your sake, I hope you don't rely solely on cloud storage OneDrive is configured as folders on my hard drives. They synchronize with my computers and the cloud. It's very safe. I use a similar system for client files. Things are backed up to multiple locations and the cloud and available to multiple devices.

11-20-2018, 09:39 AM	#40
lsimpkins Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: SE Pennsylvania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 537	Originally posted by photolady95 And the exact reason for my statement. You originally stated: "...you don't own anything from Microsoft you're only renting it" which seemed to single out Microsoft as being unique in this regard. My response was to point out that you don't own any software that you have not created yourself, not just that from Microsoft. I think we're on the same wavelength, but I just wanted to clarify for the casual reader.

11-20-2018, 10:14 AM	#41
kypfer Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Jersey C.I. Posts: 3,588 Original Poster	Originally posted by rogerstg It's just a standard micro b usb cable as used on practically all Android phones and most other consumer electronic devices. You probably have one close by. Nope! Never had an Android phone, don't anticipate ever needing one. I've got at least half a dozen USB cables with different miniature plugs on one end + several duplicates, which would have come with different hardware over the years, from Sony, Pentax, Apple, Samsung and the like, so at least some of them were considered a "standard" at one point ... just not this "standard" ... more expense

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11-20-2018, 11:21 AM	#42
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by kypfer Nope! Never had an Android phone, don't anticipate ever needing one. I've got at least half a dozen USB cables with different miniature plugs on one end + several duplicates, which would have come with different hardware over the years, from Sony, Pentax, Apple, Samsung and the like, so at least some of them were considered a "standard" at one point ... just not this "standard" ... more expense I'm not sure how many "standard USB" endings exist; yesterday I purchased a Phillips package of four adapters - and none of them fit my Q-7. I believe all these "standards" - plus more - were/are active at the same point in time. I believe I did purchase one of these at some time, but I don't remember what it was called .... I had taken my camera with me to compare them. I am really surprised that Pentax didn't provide what you need.

11-20-2018, 11:57 AM	#43
photolady95 Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cruising the forum watching his back Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,712	My ZTE phone uses a Type C connection, not a the standard of many android phones. Originally posted by lsimpkins You originally stated: "...you don't own anything from Microsoft you're only renting it" which seemed to single out Microsoft as being unique in this regard. My response was to point out that you don't own any software that you have not created yourself, not just that from Microsoft. I think we're on the same wavelength, but I just wanted to clarify for the casual reader. Yes, there are but since I was talking about what another member said cost only $100, I was speaking specifically of Microsoft.

11-20-2018, 12:25 PM	#44
angerdan Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,639	Originally posted by kypfer using the Wi-Fi feature on my K-70 (for which I may have to get further hardware support to be able to use it). my Windows laptop is a little past it's "Best Before" date, though it does have Wi-Fi, when it's in a good mood should I be considering some sort of "upgrade"? Thanks in advance for any constructive comments Here's a table with all tethering options for Pentax cameras: Keep the overview on the increasing tethering options for Pentax cameras - PentaxForums.com

11-20-2018, 12:37 PM	#45
rogerstg Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rhode Island Photos: Albums Posts: 1,168	Originally posted by kypfer so at least some of them were considered a "standard" at one point ... just not this "standard" ... more expense The good news it that they're only a few dollars, assuming you have no friends or acquaintances that use android or other electronic devices. Too bad you're not nearby, it seems I've got them all over the place that I could lend one to see if it works well for you. You're also right about the changing standard. Newer things are starting to come through with USB micro C, which are oval and can be inserted upside down too.