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05-19-2019, 01:09 PM   #286
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QuoteOriginally posted by Francisco Carneiro Quote
Hi Antonio,
Also, AF with Oly are much much better, with automatic motorised enses, of course. Very fast.
Do you agree?

No. I had severe issues with Oly AF in low light and under red/orange/yellow light. Impossible to get an AF lock, for example on an illuminated water fountain at night in Barcelona when it was lit by the mentioned colors.

Depends hugely on what lenses are you using on Fuji, Oly and all other brands. Some lenses are slow to focus, other extremely fast.

Fuji XF23,XF27,XF35 and XF50 are very fast to focus. Some zooms are slow.


For me the best AF is from Panasonic. Never miss.

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No. I had severe issues with Oly AF in low light and under red/orange/yellow light. Impossible to get an AF lock, for example on an illuminated water fountain at night in Barcelona when it was lit by the mentioned colors.

Depends hugely on what lenses are you using on Fuji, Oly and all other brands. Some lenses are slow to focus, other extremely fast.

Fuji XF23,XF27,XF35 and XF50 are very fast to focus. Some zooms are slow.


For me the best AF is from Panasonic. Never miss.
Hi Antonio, yes in low light. I agree.

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Francisco,

I like both X20 and X30. They have exactly the same output. Both can be extremely sharp if you do the things with care, for example shoot in raw and do the post processing with a decent raw converter (LR no please). Of course they aren't a K1 you know.

The optical viewfinder of the X20 is nice but unusable for close ups and macro, but better for low light. Battery life is low, about 250 pics maximum.

The X30's EVF is quite good and the battery lasts much more, about 450 photos.


Some days ago I posted a very short post about this on my blog. I'll update it in the next week with more examples. Note that the images quality can be compromised when uploading them to Google Photos.


Old Good Light: Remember Fuji X20 and X30 ? How Good are Them Really ?


Nowadays colors and contrast are more due to software than optics, believe me. Specially if your edition software is able to work with LUT tables.
Nice litle review, thanks!
I finaly downloaded RawTherapee, I decided to begin my photos in raw, that's a new adventure.
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just a little self thinking about myself

if i own XT2 or XT3 and some decent fuji lenses

no way i switch to pentax

end of story xD
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just a little self thinking about myself

if i own XT2 or XT3 and some decent fuji lenses

no way i switch to pentax

end of story xD

Me neither!!

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I'm still deciding if i'll keep both systems or not. It's not so obvious depending on the application.

There are good and bad things on both systems. For example I really hate the AF noise from some Pentax lenses and some other AF issues.

I also hate Fuji's EVF in low light and that loose aperture control rings of most of the R series lenses.

But generally speaking, I can't deny that Fujinons are awesome, I never saw a bad one or even a so-so one.

Decisions, decisions....
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QuoteOriginally posted by KoolKool Quote
just a little self thinking about myself

if i own XT2 or XT3 and some decent fuji lenses

no way i switch to pentax

end of story xD
Ya, if you already paid the price what would be the point? Apart from my lenses working on both APS-c and FF cameras, astro tracer, pixels shift etc. But it's still possible someone could buy into Pentax because of features Fuji doesn't have. It depends on what you want. If you do no niche shooting, then individual camera attributes make no difference. Almost any camera can do snapshots and candids. You buy the camera that's best for what you do... if you don't do what Pentax does, switching to Fuji makes sense if you can afford it. If you want features that Pentax has, then sticking with Fuji makes no sense. Thanks for your statements of your personal preferences, but I don't see that it adds much to the conversation besides a bit of cheerleading.

I'm sure there are lots of folks out there who make good use of both brands. Whether or not they should switch to the other is a personal decision based on personal needs. Those of us here with Pentax are here for good reasons, and I'm sure there are also good reasons for shooting Fuji as well.

So, no, not end of story.

Since the implementation of Pixel Shift that is now on all the Pentax models currently available, I've had trouble considering any camera completely dependant on a Bayer array and interpolation to be somewhat backward. It's all a matter of perspective.

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Since the implementation of Pixel Shift that is now on all the Pentax models currently available, I've had trouble considering any camera completely dependant on a Bayer array and interpolation to be somewhat backward. It's all a matter of perspective.
I have the same sensation after using Sigma Foveon cameras. It's a bit off topic but I couldn't find any camera/lens combination capable of surpassing the DP2 Merrill image quality in good light. Even pixel shift from the K3-II can't compete.

Like you said, there are many niches and possibilities around.
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QuoteOriginally posted by AntonioS Quote
I have the same sensation after using Sigma Foveon cameras. It's a bit off topic but I couldn't find any camera/lens combination capable of surpassing the DP2 Merrill image quality in good light. Even pixel shift from the K3-II can't compete.

Like you said, there are many niches and possibilities around.
Incredible image quality from the DPII, which I also owned. A 12 MP file was clearer than a 16 MP K-3 file for the same scene. I sold it because I never used it. No shake reduction, you had to take a tripod for an everyday landscape, and didn't really fit in the bag as an extra body to be used when appropriate. And high ISO was limited. In the end I sold it to a guy, who like me just had to try it out.


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