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01-10-2019, 07:45 PM   #226
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QuoteOriginally posted by AntonioS Quote
Hi !

There are some other aspects that worths mention.Like I said before I have both systems.

With my current set of Pentax lenses, the Pentax System is much noisier than the Fuji.
Fuji is faster.
Pentax has IBIS.
Btw, the top of the line Fuji does have IBIS, but you really pay for that. And sizewise too - IIRC it's bigger than the KP.



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Btw, the top of the line Fuji does have IBIS, but you really pay for that. And sizewise too - IIRC it's bigger than the KP.

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Btw, the top of the line Fuji does have IBIS, but you really pay for that. And sizewise too - IIRC it's bigger than the KP.

Hi Clackers! It's been a long time...


Yes, the first in Fuji line to have OIS is the XH1. It's BIG.

As you said, one pays the price, but if you are looking for very good OIS, very good video and good responseviness, it's one of the good choices out there. Well, the price is not so different. Now you buy it for 1000 euros new and I found a very good used one for 750. Same price as some XT2 or XT3, depends on the week. Anyway if you go hunting you may find a very good deal.

Of course, there are others, but as usual, not inferior, not superior, just good cameras, all of them are so good today.

I still have Fuji, I sold the XE1 with the 16-50 zoom and I did not sell -yet - the other 16-50, 27mm and XM1.
I don't know if I sell the lenses, but will sell the XM1 for sure.
AS a Fuji user, I can't find the colors that Fuji has. I like it so much.
I know a lellow who bought Sony 6500 after Fuji and returned to Fuji.
Others did the same after trying Panasonic. They returned to Fuji.


I am happy with OLY image and colors, but I can't have the same saturated colors I had with +2 color and Velvia, or even Provia.

XH1 would be a nice option for me, if I stay with Fuji.

Again, I am not saying it is better.
When I see the images that skilled photographs do with K1 I say wow! I understand the enthousiasm for Pentax.


We are all attatched to what we know.

I can even say : if you buy a XT1 you have practically the same images as with the XT2, 3, or XH1. Or XE1 and save a lot of money for the outstanding Fuji 50mm.

The same with KP K1 or others, not the same, but not so different.


For my level, I would be happy with XT1. Then and would buy XH1, for OIS. And would sell all Oly stuff. Uff... Would I be happy with XH1 being so BIG? In the end of the day... yes.

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Oh, wether sealing.

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01-11-2019, 01:43 AM   #228
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I use both Pentax and Fujifilm gear and I like them both for different reasons, likewise for their output. Crucially, both systems are designed for photographers and have the feeling of being designed so that the equipment does not get in the way of your photography, unlike Nikon for example. This has the result of making me want to get out and take photos.

Other pros and cons for each system would be quite a long list.

I suppose the only way to really be sure would be to try some Pentax gear.
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I use both Pentax and Fujifilm gear and I like them both for different reasons, likewise for their output. Crucially, both systems are designed for photographers and have the feeling of being designed so that the equipment does not get in the way of your photography, unlike Nikon for example. This has the result of making me want to get out and take photos.

Other pros and cons for each system would be quite a long list.

I suppose the only way to really be sure would be to try some Pentax gear.

Yes Jonathan, words and thoughts are important, but they should lead to action, at least in the context of our conversation.

We must try and live with the equipment.
That's why I bought oly and a few oly lenses.
We can't forget to have fun in the process.

May be I will end up like you : Fuji and Pentax.

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Talking about lenses :
Recently I bought a few takumars, in my weekends in Paris and in the web.

Yesterday finally received the MD- M/Oly and M42-M/Oly adapters, so I made my first shots with the
50mm Takumar Macro f4, 100mm Takumar f4 Macro, 50mm Takumar f1.4 (fantastic lens), Takumar 35mm f3.5 and Albinar 135mm f2.8.
I still have to try Vivitar 70-210mm 3.5. I tryied at home just so see how sharp it is and it is sharp sharp, very neutral. 20 euros, incredible.
The Albinar was a nice surprise too. Sharp but not so sharp, but with very good colors. I can make beautiful backgrounds with it, very romantic.


I will post pictures of them in the very next future. I posted a few but had to delete the threat, because it was not published in the right place.
Can anyone tell me where to post a threat with several photos of different lenses? Thank you.
I also want to report the behavior that differeent lenses have with a fuji body and an Oly body.


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Two simple photos taken with Albinar 135mm f2.8 and Olympus EM5

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Takumar 50mm f4 Macro with Olympus E-M5

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Takumar 50mm f1.4 With Fuji X-M1


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Albinar 135mm f2.8 on Olympus E-M5


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I guess if you shoot takamurs then it doesn't matter much what you shoot. Sure that was Pentax 50 years ago, but it's hardly the Pentax of today.

Why are you guys filling the thread with Fuji and Olympus images with no comparison Pentax images?

A cheap ploy to dump a bunch of Fuji images into the Pentax DSLR thread?

If the images are supposed to inspire me to run out and buy a Fuji, it's not working.

Here, I'll even things out a bit....





















I like some of the images, but I haven't seen anything from the Fuji or Olympus I couldn't do with the Pentax.

However for things you can only do with a Pentax, how about Pixel Shift?


For images taken with the K-P have a look through this stuff. I guess K-P shooters are too busy shooting and posting to come into a thread like this and pitch their cameras.
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/203-pentax-kp/341347-post-your-best-kp-shots-8.html

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QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
I guess if you shoot takamurs then it doesn't matter much what you shoot. Sure that was Pentax 50 years ago, but it's hardly the Pentax of today.

Why are you guys filling the thread with Fuji and Olympus images with no comparison Pentax images?

A cheap ploy to dump a bunch of Fuji images into the Pentax DSLR thread?

If the images are supposed to inspire me to run out and buy a Fuji, it's not working.

Here, I'll even things out a bit....





















I like some of the images, but I haven't seen anything from the Fuji or Olympus I couldn't do with the Pentax.

However for this you can do with a Pentax, how about Pixel Shift?
Great images, thanks!
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normhead,

That's very nice to ad some pentax photos to the threat, thank you! Why am I the only (was), guy here posting photos?

No, nobody is trying to capture pentax users to fuji.

"Sure that was Pentax 50 years ago, but it's hardly the Pentax of today."
Are the new Pentax lenses much better than Takumars?I guess yes.

I bought Takumars because they are cheap, I could make an intire set with 500 euros, they are good and have that "vintage" feeling...

and time by time I buy a modern lens, accurate and sharp. With AF too!

Even Fuji kit zoom is better than all those vintage lenses, but those lenses offer something unique.


I like the photo number 2, (the bird), and the last one.
Pixel shift is a good feature.
Oly has the same, sort of.
I bet that this is a feature that all brands will have soon, like 5 axis stab.

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normhead,

That's very nice to ad some pentax photos to the threat, thank you! Why am I the only (was), guy here posting photos?

No, nobody is trying to capture pentax users to fuji.

"Sure that was Pentax 50 years ago, but it's hardly the Pentax of today."
Are the new Pentax lenses much better than Takumars?I guess yes.

I bought Takumars because they are cheap, I could make an intire set with 500 euros, they are good and have that "vintage" feeling...

and time by time I buy a modern lens, accurate and sharp. With AF too!

Even Fuji kit zoom is better than all those vintage lenses, but those lenses offer something unique.


I like the photo number 2, (the bird), and the last one.
Pixel shift is a good feature.
Oly has the same, sort of.
I bet that this is a feature that all brands will have soon, like 5 axis stab.
Once you've used it and managed to get better than otherwise possible results, it's hard to understand why everyone hasn't implemented it.
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I am not comparing cameras, just sharing pictures with my new vintage lenses, and points of view,


I like the dog. I like how the eyes were captured.

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Be careful! Soon I will make pictures better than those, I am only getting some training with all these things that are new to me. I really want to improve, it's a question of time.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Francisco Carneiro Quote
I am not comparing cameras, just sharing pictures with my new vintage lenses, and points of view,


I like the dog. I like how the eyes were captured.

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Be careful! Soon I will make pictures better than those, I am only getting some training with all these things that are new to me. I really want to improve, it's a question of time.
I have to say, there's nothing more important to learning than really liking your gear, no matter what it is. If you get joy from picking your kit up, you'll use it. But looking at images you like and understanding how they were done, you can look at the exif for any image that are like mine posted on flickr and see the exif below the image. I have a library of images in my head that I saw when I was young, that I've carried my whole life, and when I get an opportunity I set them up. If i were in your position, I'de probably put a portfolio of my favourite images from the web, with exposure information, lens used etc. and put it on my phone. Then start plotting and planning.

I certainly hope some day, you'll be as good as you hope to be. Photography is the one hobby that's been important my whole life. It's great way to enjoy your favourite moments over an over again.
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Actually, I'm leaving Fuji due other factors.

I'm totally satisfied with my old Pentax DA Limited lenses, specially the 70 and the 40mm. I like the IBIS and love the possibility to use tons of really good old Pentax glass I have here like the SMC-A 50/1.2 and the SMC-A 100/2.8. Both K3-II and K5-II I have were fit with microprism/split image focusing screens.


To my taste, Fuji has more annoyances, for example, what I consider a design flaw in many of the XC lenses, a pretty loose aperture control ring and honestly I'm not a big fan of electronic viefinders.

Fuji raw development is a pain in the ass, at least to extract all the juice. Pentax goes very smoothly and gives fantastic results when used with DxO.

Now, comparing bodies, there's no doubt that the K3 is better than the Fuji XT2 and WAY better than the previous Fuji generation.

But I have to say that the old Pentax AF motor system (in-camera) really sucks. It's slow, noisy and not very precise. I always hated this system since the film era. Nikon and Minolta also had the same system.The Pentax k5-II and the Fuji XT1 are from the same era and at that time Fuji's lenses were much faster and silent than what Pentax had at the same price tag.
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