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02-10-2019, 03:56 PM - 1 Like   #31
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Hi Mike

Thanks for the discussion.
I'm only a jpeg shooter and I still prefer 100D pegs to K5 pegs overall ,It is not what you are discussing but it still seems relevent with to ccd vs cmos

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This thread is very interesting to me being a K10D user who just got a K-3 a few days ago. I noticed the difference immediately. However, I had seen this thread and others and so I was looking for that difference. Thanks to BigMackCam, though, I was prepared, with that custom Lightroom "CCD look" profile. It makes quite an improvement especially (to my eye) when there are blue hues involved, followed by red hues. Perhaps I should post this in that profile's thread, but I really appreciate your efforts putting that together, BigMackCam. I don't find myself wishing for more than the K-3 is giving me. I do, however, definitely see what people mean when they talk about the K10D providing such nice colors "naturally," with the CMOS sensors requiring a little massaging to get there.

I plan to do some comparison shots myself between the K10D and the K-3 soon for fun and to form a subjective feel for when I'll benefit from grabbing the K10D or not, and also to see which lens I might prefer on each camera for when I feel the urge to bring along both. Should be fun!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mobusaki Quote
This thread is very interesting to me being a K10D user who just got a K-3 a few days ago. I noticed the difference immediately. However, I had seen this thread and others and so I was looking for that difference. Thanks to BigMackCam, though, I was prepared, with that custom Lightroom "CCD look" profile. It makes quite an improvement especially (to my eye) when there are blue hues involved, followed by red hues. Perhaps I should post this in that profile's thread, but I really appreciate your efforts putting that together, BigMackCam. I don't find myself wishing for more than the K-3 is giving me. I do, however, definitely see what people mean when they talk about the K10D providing such nice colors "naturally," with the CMOS sensors requiring a little massaging to get there.

I plan to do some comparison shots myself between the K10D and the K-3 soon for fun and to form a subjective feel for when I'll benefit from grabbing the K10D or not, and also to see which lens I might prefer on each camera for when I feel the urge to bring along both. Should be fun!
Thank you for the kind words... they're much appreciated, and I'm glad you found some value from that "CCD look" article I wrote

Much as I love my GX-10 / K10D, I'd be the first to say the K-3 is a superb, modern DSLR with far greater capabilities and functionality. I shoot one, and I'm a huge fan. Amongst the many improved specifications, it boasts considerably better resolution, dynamic range, and high ISO performance. Those can be crucial in certain use cases. And it's important to remember that the K-3's raw files offer amazing flexibility and opportunity for optimisation in post-processing. Given that, it's quite possible to achieve colour and tone similar to the K10D from K-3 files... as you've found from the "CCD look" article I posted. Similar... yet not identical.

I like my GX-10 and K-3 for different reasons, and I'd prefer not to be without either. I like the GX-10 because, whether it's due to the sensor, embedded profile, raw conversion software or a combination of any of those, I find the raw files very appealing, requiring only minor tweaking in many cases to achieve images I'm completely happy with (my own composition flaws aside ). I like the K-3 because, unlike the GX-10, it's capable of virtually anything I might want to do with it. But the raw files - again, whether it's due to the sensor, profile and / or raw conversion software - need more adjustments. Those adjustments can be stored as presets and applied with little effort. But the results are, as you'd expect, never quite the same between the two cameras...
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I'd have liked to see a comparison to the K-5. I've never liked what I've seen SOOC from the K-3 but I think the K-5 sensor has amazing colors out of the gate with better DR to boot.

That might be my own bias though because I've shot for so long with the K-01.

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I'd have liked to see a comparison to the K-5.
The K5 default look is close to the K3. I remember well my first image taken with the K5, coming from the K200D. When I looked at the K5 image, it looked metallic / cooler compared to what I was used to see from the K200D. I think the big change was between CCD and CMOS.
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