What's 3d pop for me...

zburatoru · 02-10-2019, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Yeah. I don't recall how many exposures, probably 18 or so.

---------- Post added 02-10-19 at 11:22 AM ----------

Thank you. I blame the lens. It's a really good one.

---------- Post added 02-10-19 at 11:22 AM ----------

Thank you. I blame the lens. It's a really good one.

Lens?

**BigMackCam** · 02-10-2019, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Thank you. I blame the lens. It's a really good one.

Originally posted by zburatoru

Lens?

It's probably just some random 50mm he threw on the camera... Still, it looks pretty sharp...

(Sorry, Bill - I couldn't resist )

ZombieArmy · 02-10-2019, 02:59 PM

You can even get a great 3d effect out of the humble 18-55. Taken today:

zburatoru · 02-10-2019, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by ZombieArmy

You can even get a great 3d effect out of the humble 18-55. Taken today:

That's because the kit lens has very good contrast, it's great for b/w! Maybe it's underexposing.
An b/w example:https://flic.kr/p/Zn68Ab

Last edited by zburatoru; 02-11-2019 at 12:52 AM.

**GUB** · 02-11-2019, 02:12 AM - **1 Like**

I think we take on board cues from dof a lot more subtly than we realise to see 3D. In other words we use slight changes in sharpness to augment the stereo purpose of having two eyes much more than we realise. I use smart sharpening a lot (edge sharpening) and the Gimp process I use gives me options to not sharpen areas. This is a great way to gain a bit of 3D pop. I don't think it is the sharpest lenses that lend themselves to this but rather the slightly softer ones like the M40 2.8. which responds well to the sharpening process.

**kernos** · 02-11-2019, 11:20 AM - **2 Likes**

The other thing besides sharpness, is how well the lens portrays slight changes in color contrast.f I forget what f stop this was at, probably between 1.4 and 2.8 , but the thing that makes it work are the colors not sharpness. Clicking on the image and viewing full screen of Flickr really shows what I mean.
Canon FL 55mm 1.2

zburatoru · 02-11-2019, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by kernos

The other thing besides sharpness, is how well the lens portrays slight changes in color contrast.f I forget what f stop this was at, probably between 1.4 and 2.8 , but the thing that makes it work are the colors not sharpness. Clicking on the image and viewing full screen of Flickr really shows what I mean.
Canon FL 55mm 1.2

This definitely works! I'd say f2.8...

gatorguy · 02-11-2019, 04:15 PM - **3 Likes**

You want 3D pop? You REALLY want 3D pop? It doesn't get any more pop-ish than this.

gatorguy · 02-11-2019, 04:19 PM

And a pop crop...

**Larrymc** · 02-11-2019, 07:32 PM - **3 Likes**

k-3,Sigma 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 II DC HSM, 75mm, f5.6, 1/80s, ISO 100

Abandoned Home by Larry Mc, on Flickr

zburatoru · 02-11-2019, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by gatorguy

And a pop crop...

) Lights and shadows, really pop!

---------- Post added 02-11-2019 at 10:48 PM ----------

Originally posted by Larrymc

k-3,Sigma 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 II DC HSM, 75mm, f5.6, 1/80s, ISO 100

Abandoned Home by Larry Mc, on Flickr

Yes, it has! A shell that pops, really interesting!

Richpax · 05-26-2019, 02:30 AM

I read a page talking about how many modern lenses have too many corrective elements, which sacrifices depth for sharpness. I was wondering about this in relation to my 16-85mm (16 elements) compared to the 20-40mm (9). I have certainly felt that the 16-85 can look a bit flat and boring in some situations, so I got the 20-40mm and sure enough it has more 3D depth. However, I realised that my A35-105mm has 15 elements and has incredible pop. Kinda blows that theory.

I do think that there must be design factors which give some lenses 3D pop. My lens collection has tended towards these. The SMC 40mm lim, 77mm lim, are great, as is the 20-40mm. The 15mm lim has lots of pop although possibly due to perspective and punchy colours more than anything else. But I have to say for some reason it’s the older lenses that really give the best "walk into the picture" 3D effect. The 35-105 as mentioned is my best 3D zoom, but also the 50mm 1.7, and the tip top 3D kings the Takumar 35mm 3.5 and the (8 element not 7!) Super Tak 50 1.4. Oh aye, you want 3D? Can’t beat a Tak.

**Kerrowdown** · 05-26-2019, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

when in fact it's the way that lens was used

Wot he said... and it's even possible with both old and unlikely glass, see the following few examples.

"Gorgeous Lady”(Pentax-A* 200mm F2.8 ED) wide open.

**Kerrowdown** · 05-26-2019, 07:54 AM - **1 Like**

"Gorgeous Lady”(Pentax-A* 200mm F2.8 ED)

**Kerrowdown** · 05-26-2019, 07:56 AM - **1 Like**

"Lady Luck”(Pentax-A* 135mm F1.8) wide open @ F1.7

02-11-2019, 07:32 PM - 3 Likes	#40
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Does this have a little dull 3D pop?? k-3,Sigma 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 II DC HSM, 75mm, f5.6, 1/80s, ISO 100 Abandoned Home by Larry Mc, on Flickr

05-26-2019, 07:54 AM - 1 Like	#44
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,816	Portrait Pop "Gorgeous Lady”(Pentax-A* 200mm F2.8 ED)

05-26-2019, 07:56 AM - 1 Like	#45
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,816	More Portrait Pop "Lady Luck”(Pentax-A* 135mm F1.8) wide open @ F1.7

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Lens element count and the end of 3D pop	kernos	Pentax SLR Lens Discussion	26	05-26-2019 11:39 PM
My NEW Favorite "3D Pop" lens - the MOG TRIOPLAN	Fenwoodian	Pentax SLR Lens Discussion	5	04-02-2017 03:30 PM
How to achieve more 3D pop?	biz-engineer	General Photography	23	04-04-2015 05:39 AM
Misc 3D pop.	GabrielFFontes	Post Your Photos!	10	03-24-2013 10:17 AM
Cheap 3D - Sony Bloggie, Fuji W3, LG Optimus, HTC Evo 3D... or?	Unsinkable II	Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands	7	06-23-2012 09:36 PM

02-10-2019, 10:32 AM	#31
zburatoru Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sfantu Gheorghe, Romania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 266 Original Poster	Originally posted by Wheatfield Yeah. I don't recall how many exposures, probably 18 or so. ---------- Post added 02-10-19 at 11:22 AM ---------- Thank you. I blame the lens. It's a really good one. ---------- Post added 02-10-19 at 11:22 AM ---------- Thank you. I blame the lens. It's a really good one. Lens?

02-10-2019, 11:33 AM	#32
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,670	Originally posted by Wheatfield Thank you. I blame the lens. It's a really good one. Originally posted by zburatoru Lens? It's probably just some random 50mm he threw on the camera... Still, it looks pretty sharp... (Sorry, Bill - I couldn't resist )

02-10-2019, 02:59 PM	#33
ZombieArmy Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 3,210	You can even get a great 3d effect out of the humble 18-55. Taken today:

02-10-2019, 10:36 PM	#34
zburatoru Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sfantu Gheorghe, Romania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 266 Original Poster	Originally posted by ZombieArmy You can even get a great 3d effect out of the humble 18-55. Taken today: That's because the kit lens has very good contrast, it's great for b/w! Maybe it's underexposing. An b/w example:https://flic.kr/p/Zn68Ab Last edited by zburatoru; 02-11-2019 at 12:52 AM.

02-11-2019, 02:12 AM - 1 Like	#35
GUB Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Wanganui Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,760	I think we take on board cues from dof a lot more subtly than we realise to see 3D. In other words we use slight changes in sharpness to augment the stereo purpose of having two eyes much more than we realise. I use smart sharpening a lot (edge sharpening) and the Gimp process I use gives me options to not sharpen areas. This is a great way to gain a bit of 3D pop. I don't think it is the sharpest lenses that lend themselves to this but rather the slightly softer ones like the M40 2.8. which responds well to the sharpening process.

02-11-2019, 11:20 AM - 2 Likes	#36
kernos Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 456	The other thing besides sharpness, is how well the lens portrays slight changes in color contrast.f I forget what f stop this was at, probably between 1.4 and 2.8 , but the thing that makes it work are the colors not sharpness. Clicking on the image and viewing full screen of Flickr really shows what I mean. Canon FL 55mm 1.2

02-11-2019, 12:35 PM	#37
zburatoru Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sfantu Gheorghe, Romania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 266 Original Poster	Originally posted by kernos The other thing besides sharpness, is how well the lens portrays slight changes in color contrast.f I forget what f stop this was at, probably between 1.4 and 2.8 , but the thing that makes it work are the colors not sharpness. Clicking on the image and viewing full screen of Flickr really shows what I mean. Canon FL 55mm 1.2 This definitely works! I'd say f2.8...

02-11-2019, 10:46 PM	#41
zburatoru Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sfantu Gheorghe, Romania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 266 Original Poster	Originally posted by gatorguy And a pop crop... ) Lights and shadows, really pop! ---------- Post added 02-11-2019 at 10:48 PM ---------- Originally posted by Larrymc k-3,Sigma 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 II DC HSM, 75mm, f5.6, 1/80s, ISO 100 Abandoned Home by Larry Mc, on Flickr Yes, it has! A shell that pops, really interesting!

05-26-2019, 02:30 AM	#42
Richpax New Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 7	I read a page talking about how many modern lenses have too many corrective elements, which sacrifices depth for sharpness. I was wondering about this in relation to my 16-85mm (16 elements) compared to the 20-40mm (9). I have certainly felt that the 16-85 can look a bit flat and boring in some situations, so I got the 20-40mm and sure enough it has more 3D depth. However, I realised that my A35-105mm has 15 elements and has incredible pop. Kinda blows that theory. I do think that there must be design factors which give some lenses 3D pop. My lens collection has tended towards these. The SMC 40mm lim, 77mm lim, are great, as is the 20-40mm. The 15mm lim has lots of pop although possibly due to perspective and punchy colours more than anything else. But I have to say for some reason it’s the older lenses that really give the best "walk into the picture" 3D effect. The 35-105 as mentioned is my best 3D zoom, but also the 50mm 1.7, and the tip top 3D kings the Takumar 35mm 3.5 and the (8 element not 7!) Super Tak 50 1.4. Oh aye, you want 3D? Can’t beat a Tak.