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03-03-2019, 07:16 AM - 1 Like   #61
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QuoteOriginally posted by Merv-O Quote
No, never. I believe the primary purpose of a (D)SLR, in its design and practical use has been still images. I use my Leica Typ 109 point and shoot for video if necessary, or a dedicated Samsung mini-cam (about the size and dimension of a hot dog).

Dedicated video cams can be used one-handed, the heft and shape of the camera bodies I use make it less conducive. But, in a pinch, I'm glad that all of my Pentax bodies have at least 1080i which is more than enough for the "Academy Award" videos I produce.

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That is an excellent analogy. I used to smoke one to two cigars a day at a cost of $400 to $500 a month. Quit smoking, gained weight, refocused on Photography so my walks/bike rides for exercise would have a purpose (and a reason to keep moving about), and the $6,000 I saved in the first year went right into my Kits. Joined this Forum (and the Leica Forum, which pales in comparison to the Pentax version) and haven't looked back.

I really enjoy the enthusiasm here, and the $$$ I spend are enjoyable when editing, cropping and just viewing my photos. Even my family (who thinks I'm 'odd' walking around with a camera most days) enjoys the special photo I get once in a while. My daughter even uses many of my shots for her phone and website wallpaper.

Gentlemen: with photography, you can invest $50 or $50,000--just enjoy the pursuit. I hope for the rest of my life the only thing I have to be concerned about is which camera body and lens combo I shoot with on a given day...now talk about nirvana....
Hear, hear! Everything I own in camera gear is less than I would have spent in a year or so if I smoked.

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Hear, hear! Everything I own in camera gear is less than I would have spent in a year or so if I smoked.
I never smoked, are only ever drink a small amount, and that only rarely. (When I was young I never understood those around me who drank booze as an emetic, I suppose I never found that kind of emitting to be enjoyable.) Still find the money all goes on the ordinary, and I have a good job. I bought most of the old Takumar focal lengths, and in some cases the fast and the slow version, about 5 years ago, a felt I was being extravagant. But they are nice to use and I like them.
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I've already decided what's next for me. I have had my epiphany!


My GR III is on preorder. When it arrives my DSLR kit, along with my GR II is all getting sold.

Since having a GR, my joy for photography has returned. I never want a DSLR with me any more...a GR in my pocket is all the camera I need or want. I don't even care about the images I would need a DSLR for, because there are millions of others the GR is perfect for. Plus, I can carry it in any pocket, or tucked under my arm on a small sling, so it is literally always with me. The images it produces are stunning. I don't need to worry about what lens I must save for next, what bag will pack everything in and still be comfortable, or whether or not there will be a replacement when it breaks.


It is literally and figuratively a weight off my shoulders. So is you're in the market for a used K-3II, watch the marketplace in a few weeks' time.
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QuoteOriginally posted by victormeldrew Quote
I've already decided what's next for me. I have had my epiphany!


My GR III is on preorder. When it arrives my DSLR kit, along with my GR II is all getting sold.

Since having a GR, my joy for photography has returned. I never want a DSLR with me any more...a GR in my pocket is all the camera I need or want. I don't even care about the images I would need a DSLR for, because there are millions of others the GR is perfect for. Plus, I can carry it in any pocket, or tucked under my arm on a small sling, so it is literally always with me. The images it produces are stunning. I don't need to worry about what lens I must save for next, what bag will pack everything in and still be comfortable, or whether or not there will be a replacement when it breaks.


It is literally and figuratively a weight off my shoulders. So is you're in the market for a used K-3II, watch the marketplace in a few weeks' time.
This man gets it....fast focus, slow focus, heavy, light, big small....its the joy of photography. The problem is I like my DSLRs--maybe I'm compensating for something else? (wink wink

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QuoteOriginally posted by victormeldrew Quote
I've already decided what's next for me. I have had my epiphany!


My GR III is on preorder. When it arrives my DSLR kit, along with my GR II is all getting sold.

Since having a GR, my joy for photography has returned. I never want a DSLR with me any more...a GR in my pocket is all the camera I need or want. I don't even care about the images I would need a DSLR for, because there are millions of others the GR is perfect for. Plus, I can carry it in any pocket, or tucked under my arm on a small sling, so it is literally always with me. The images it produces are stunning. I don't need to worry about what lens I must save for next, what bag will pack everything in and still be comfortable, or whether or not there will be a replacement when it breaks.


It is literally and figuratively a weight off my shoulders. So is you're in the market for a used K-3II, watch the marketplace in a few weeks' time.
Yeah these are strong points. There's something to be said for becoming a master of one cameras as well. As I shoot professionally I can't give up on my proper gear but I would love a GRII/III to compliment my set up (even using in paid events as well), and if I owned one I would never leave the house without one either!

Look forward to hearing your feedback on it.
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Look forward to hearing your feedback on it.
Me too!

These next few weeks are going to be slow going...and that's if Ricoh breaks with tradition and comes good on a predicted release date. Not at all guaranteed...
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Yes, I don't understand why Ricoh discontinued the K-3II without a having a replacement. The KP is a downgrade in many respects, and clearly a successor in the KS line, rather than the K-7/5/3 line.
Because the K-3ii was no longer selling in sufficient quantities and at sufficient margin to justify manufacturing any further batches.

The APS-C DSLR market is rapidly shrinking. It will become a very tiny percentage of the overall ILC market in 2 to 3 years.
The days of selling 100's of thousands of K-5 and K-3 models are gone. I doubt a K-3 successor type camera would shift even 50,000 units.

I think Ricoh already saw this coming and decided to focus on full-frame where the action is and that's why we didn't get a K-3iii first time around.
They probably should have beefed up the specs on KP and stuck with that as the APS-C flagship. A lot of people won't like that but it is hard to argue with the market.
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QuoteOriginally posted by victormeldrew Quote
I have had my epiphany!

My GR III is on preorder. When it arrives my DSLR kit, along with my GR II is all getting sold.

Since having a GR, my joy for photography has returned. I never want a DSLR with me any more...a GR in my pocket is all the camera I need or want. I don't even care about the images I would need a DSLR for, because there are millions of others the GR is perfect for. Plus, I can carry it in any pocket, or tucked under my arm on a small sling, so it is literally always with me. The images it produces are stunning. I don't need to worry about what lens I must save for next, what bag will pack everything in and still be comfortable, or whether or not there will be a replacement when it breaks.

It is literally and figuratively a weight off my shoulders. So is you're in the market for a used K-3II, watch the marketplace in a few weeks' time.
I had my epiphany 13 years ago - in 2006.

My first digital camera was a Canon compact camera; it was more flexible than a GR - because it had a zoom lens - but it still lacked the flexibility I need, so I decided that every camera I get from now on must be an ILC.

It's not heavy - it's my camera.

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Because the K-3ii was no longer selling in sufficient quantities and at sufficient margin to justify manufacturing any further batches.

The APS-C DSLR market is rapidly shrinking. It will become a very tiny percentage of the overall ILC market in 2 to 3 years.
The days of selling 100's of thousands of K-5 and K-3 models are gone. I doubt a K-3 successor type camera would shift even 50,000 units.

I think Ricoh already saw this coming and decided to focus on full-frame
where the action is and that's why we didn't get a K-3iii first time around.
They probably should have beefed up the specs on KP and stuck with that as the APS-C flagship. A lot of people won't like that but it is hard to argue with the market.
That's what I thought, but at CP+, Ricoh said the next camera to be released will be the K-3ii replacement
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in another thread I talked a bit about youtube video of one of CP+ Tanaka-Iwasaki sessions (probably the first day), and though I didn't have time to write any detailed comments at the time, and though many things were vague anyway, Iwasak-san said that APS will come before the next full frame.

From about 33:00 they talked about APS flagship (yes Iwasaki-san said 'APS flagship') but there's nothing that wasn't already reported by JPT.

Full frame talk starts at about 35:49, Iwasaki-san says it's "something in the future", Tanaka-san pressed him to say if it's next year or not and Iwasaki-san mumbled (sounded like "a bit further down" to me but I'm not 100% certain). He also said he cannot say at this point if that will be a successor of K-1 II or lower end.

Then, from 36:37, still talking about new full frame,

Iwasaki: Yes we have some work to do.

Tanaka: But before that, you have some work to do on the successor of K-3II.

Iwasaki: Yes, that one first.
Unless Iwasaki-san made an error, that's that, that was in no uncertain terms.
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Oh Dear I'm still using my 100D Super , I don't know what I really need or is it what I want. It works just fine for me

Dave
Late to this discussion. I shoot with my K100D & K20D and happy with both.
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QuoteOriginally posted by victormeldrew Quote
Since having a GR, my joy for photography has returned. I never want a DSLR with me any more...a GR in my pocket is all the camera I need or want. I don't even care about the images I would need a DSLR for, because there are millions of others the GR is perfect for. Plus, I can carry it in any pocket, or tucked under my arm on a sma
That is an excellent example as to why these threads full of complaints about staying with Pentax/leaving Pentax/Unsure of the future of Pentax, etc. are inane. A true photographer uses the equipment he/she has or likes and makes images that are satisfying to themselves, ultimately (professionals excluded, of course)--filling their lives by traveling to locations, noticing the mundane or things people miss because they are not behind a lens--macro-micro-telephoto...If your new GR III gives you satisfaction, snap away enjoy and share a pic once in awhile for others to appreciate.
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