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10-07-2008, 08:27 PM   #16
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Now it's looking like buying the body and the kit lens separate is a better deal by a small margin right now.

Is the 18-55MM f/3.5-5.6 AL II seen here: Amazon.com: Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AL II Lens for Pentax and Samsung Digital SLR Cameras: Gigabargain the same lens as the one in the kit seen here: Amazon.com: Pentax K20D 14.6MP Digital SLR Camera with Shake Reduction and 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AL II Lens: Electronics

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I wouldn't buy the 18-55mm II intentionally unless it was already in the box, especially for the k20d.

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Well I've got no glass so I wanted to start with the kit lens or something like it and similarly priced.

This will be the first time in several years I've paid more than $200 for a Camera. My budget is right about $1000 for a body and lens.
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Perhaps start out with a FA 50 f1.4. Or get a used 16-45mm. I understand where you are coming from. The 18-55mm II is a good lens but you will not be getting the most out of that k20d.
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My vote is for the kit lens, version II. It is by far the best kit lens on the market. It is far better than the old FA 28-80 we have, and it was acceptable up to 8x10 from film. I suspect that you can print 10X15 inch prints from the k20d with kit lens with few problems. It is a very inexpensive way to get started with a wonderful camera.

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Since it's your first DSLR, i'd go with the kit lense from there you can then decide on your future lenses; wider or longer, the 18-55II is a pretty good daily walk around lense that will handle most if not all of your shooting needs (i sound like an Ad here)

it may not be the fastest but you have SR in body so you have a ~+5 stop buffer right there, the contrast/resolution may not be premium but can most people tell if shot properly?

Here's a few sample shots off Flickr

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Pentax+18-55II&m=tags
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Well I bit the bullet and ordered from Amazon. 995 shipped for the K20d w/ Kit lens, Pentax sling bag and lowepro camera strap.

I'm sure I'll want a tripod next.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mindflux Quote
I'm searching for my first DSLR. I'm torn between the K20d and the D90. Right now through Amazon, Cameta Camera has the K20d with the kit lens for 999+15 ship. I think this is the lowest I've seen it yet.

My question to you folk is; is the kit lens worth it? I may be able to get the body cheaper through eBay with the 30% MS Live cashback, so if I can come out under a grand with the body and a BETTER lens, lets hear what you've got to say.

Thanks!
The version ll of the kit lens is really quite good. Chasseur D'Images in France gave it 4 out of 5 stars. For the money, why not.

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