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10-15-2008, 08:26 PM   #1
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Public Service Announcement

To all those who have been holding out on upgrading to the K20D.... I just did it and have to say I should have done it before.

It's a phenomenal camera. But I think you know that.

Yes, the focus speed is much faster than my K100DS. And the low light performance is night and day (no pun intended). These were my two top concerns.

What a wonderfully designed camera. A real high quality instrument.

10-15-2008, 09:00 PM   #2
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arg.... stop that
i'm gonna wait till PMA, after i said i'd wait after photokina

what i really want is a GOOD p&s

edit: to add one of the most vocal critics of AF problems on DPR, don allison has found the K20D such an improvement that he's stopped complaining about it. if you see how heated some of those dicussions got, that's another ringing endorsement of the camera.

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10-15-2008, 09:52 PM   #3
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That is good to hear. Enjoy your new camera! You sure have some nice lenses to pair with it.
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As one who used to use the K100D, K100D Super and K10D, the K20D is certainly a quantum improvement. Congrats on your new toy.

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Yeah, I never understood why so many tries to convince them selves that the K20D is not worth upgrading to. But the grass is always more green on the other side.
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Stop that! I'm trying very hard to not get the K20D.... you are not helping...

Arg....

K10D is great and I can wait until PMA for a K20D+ before I upgrade....
K10D is great and I can wait until PMA for a K20D+ before I upgrade....
K10D is great and I can wait until PMA for a K20D+ before I upgrade....
K10D is great and I can wait until PMA for a K20D+ before I upgrade....
etc
etc

Conversation from the breakfast table (it being my birthday today):

My 5 yo: Dad, you love cameras - why don't you get new one as a birthday gift?
Me: I would love to, but cameras are expensive, ...
My 5 yo: What is the camera you have?
Me: It's pentax called a K10D - I would like to get a K20D, but it's about 6000 (dkkr)
Wife: About the same as a vacation
5 yo: Hm...
Me: I do have the money, but I'm trying to hold out for the new model which will hopefull be out this spring.
5 yo: I would get it now.
Wife: You can wait
[Rat part of my brain: Listen to the boy!]

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10-16-2008, 08:22 AM   #7
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Heh heh! Yeah, I (luckily) found this out back in February when I was an early adopter. I mainly wanted the high ISO capability, but found that in just about every area it worked much better.

It's funny, the main critics (most, but not all) of the K20D are the people that have already decided it's not worth the upgrade. Rarely do you hear someone that did upgrade express remorse. It's a mighty fine camera.
10-16-2008, 08:34 AM   #8
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QuoteOriginally posted by rfortson Quote
Heh heh! Yeah, I (luckily) found this out back in February when I was an early adopter. I mainly wanted the high ISO capability, but found that in just about every area it worked much better.

It's funny, the main critics (most, but not all) of the K20D are the people that have already decided it's not worth the upgrade. Rarely do you hear someone that did upgrade express remorse. It's a mighty fine camera.
top of the line aps-c camera from Pentax (new - not used) is worth about USD $500-600. period. people who need it for work might be willing to pay more as soon as it was release - but others are better off waiting until it will be selling for the real price (USD $500-600)... there is nothing there that justify ~$1000 range.

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QuoteOriginally posted by laissezfaire Quote
To all those who have been holding out on upgrading to the K20D.... I just did it and have to say I should have done it before.
QuoteOriginally posted by creampuff Quote
As one who used to use the K100D, K100D Super and K10D, the K20D is certainly a quantum improvement.
Guys! This isn't a public service announcement =(
Please stop... must not...... buy..... K20..... K100....... is good..... enough....

QuoteOriginally posted by tcdk Quote
Stop that! I'm trying very hard to not get the K20D.... you are not helping...
It's simultaneously very comforting (to know the K20 is such an improvement) and also very frustrating (to not have one / to try to curtail spending) isn't it?

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LBA suggestion

Da* 200/2.8

i feel better now ...LOL
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QuoteOriginally posted by Clicker Quote
Da* 200/2.8

i feel better now ...LOL
Oh now that was totally uncalled for... 15yd penalty for taunting and enabling.
10-17-2008, 07:35 AM   #12
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Damn, now I went and ordered one... found a lightly used one on amazon.de at €590(incl p&p). :-)

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10-17-2008, 09:19 AM   #13
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I have it, and my complaints ARE UNFAIR:

- Autofocus slow when compared to my teacher's C* 1D Mark II.
- Autofocus seems slow in low light, but haven't compared it against other camera!.
- The camera is USD 300 cheaper than when I bought it. (And I wouldn't trade those extra 300 USD for the experience and opportunities gained in the meantime!).

So there you have it, to complain against the K20D is to make unfair complaints. But then again, if you already have a camera, go and take pictures! Spend the money with your family and create more memories!

With the economy nowadays, it might be a lot of time before you can upgrade your camera again. If you are interested in video capabilities, you might want to wait what the K30D has to offer. Live view was the rave last year , and recently video is the new rave and there is a possibility for K30D to include it, since we already got 21fps, we only need microphone(s) and some software (would microsoft be of a little help?).
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I'm trying to decide myself whether I want to buy a K20 before I upgrade my A100/4 to a Sigma 105 or vice versa. Hopefully, I will have the 12-24 sold in the near future, and if I sell my K10D, it's sale and the sale of the 12-24 will allow me to buy a K20, along with a 16-45 lens to replace the 12-24, with money left over that will go towards the Sigma 105, along from the proceeds of the sale of the A100. After all of that, I might actually have a little bit of money left over, assuming that I shop carefully.

So the question for me is...body or lens first?

Heather
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QuoteOriginally posted by hwblanks Quote
I'm trying to decide myself whether I want to buy a K20 before I upgrade my A100/4 to a Sigma 105 or vice versa. Hopefully, I will have the 12-24 sold in the near future, and if I sell my K10D, it's sale and the sale of the 12-24 will allow me to buy a K20, along with a 16-45 lens to replace the 12-24, with money left over that will go towards the Sigma 105, along from the proceeds of the sale of the A100. After all of that, I might actually have a little bit of money left over, assuming that I shop carefully.

So the question for me is...body or lens first?

Heather
Definitely the body, Heather. You, after all, created the LBA Anonymous. Traitor.
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